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« Reply #1065 on: Jan 9th, 2009, 8:15pm »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 7:57pm, Katterfelto wrote:
I'm not too sure of the intended audience of this. If it was the general public I think it failed.
If it was the likes of us and others on the net forums then they studied a subset of who knows what. I'd say they proved what was to be expected - that some believe anything, some believe nothing and those in between. No real revelation there.
If it was some study exercise, I really don't know who the joke is on. It could be on them when all is said and done.
TP, actually I'm a potted plant. laugh
Back to my Diablo game. That reality I can handle.


I play Oblivion! Did you know SPF33 does character drawings for bethesda.wow and .kewl stuff he has made. I don't do online stuff, like hammer and WoW as those kids would wipe the screen with me. Anyway can't say more on him as he has NDA too., and more than one I might add. , very common..it seems.

Double..ditto on that..I recall players like Numbers saying this will be bigger than Roswell..and frankly, it was more than him.
adding the posts at OM and here and ATS was like about 45000, numbers had about close to 4000 posts all together, Tomi had about 3000 , thats just 2 people..then mine about 3400. I forgot I ad 700 when first leaving OM. just 3 people morethan 20 percent..in those alone.thats 1/5 . You are absolutely right, I would not call that a big audience reach..Had it been spread out with more people..than ok...but concentrated..its not. like saying gee..they reached a market of like less than 30 odd folx. people.
No wonder Numbers wanted to keep up the conversation going after he Killed it.
@ Marvin you said

It is interesting to note... the Pole photo was taken Dec 29th and the Pole and Street Light was taken 9 days later on Jan 7th. That's a long 41 second walk (if we are comparing it to Raj's EXIF data).

There has to be a good story behind that.
Great question.. yikes! thats 9 days or 777,600 seconds.


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« Reply #1066 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 06:52am »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 08:50am, TeachersPet wrote:
When the people went thru the circus tent, they saw nothing inside as a circus handler moved the crowd line along thru the exit. They went back around the front demanding their money back, "pointing angrily to the sign, See a Live Egress 10 Cents , "where the Heck is the Egress we paid to see? The Tentmaster replied, pointing to the exit, Good Sir, How could you miss it you just went thru one..
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There's a sucker born every minute.


I am a little late on this post TP smiley
But there are klowns in this circus lets hope its not these klowns..
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on Jan 9th, 2009, 7:57pm, Katterfelto wrote:
Back to my Diablo game. That reality I can handle.


Loved that game..I even bought it for the PSX 1 just to see how it differed from the PC/Mac version...You can cheat a lot better in that version.. wink laugh
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« Reply #1067 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 07:11am »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 8:15pm, TeachersPet wrote:
I play Oblivion! Did you know SPF33 does character drawings for bethesda.wow and .kewl stuff he has made. I don't do online stuff, like hammer and WoW as those kids would wipe the screen with me. Anyway can't say more on him as he has NDA too., and more than one I might add. , very common..it seems.

Double..ditto on that..I recall players like Numbers saying this will be bigger than Roswell..and frankly, it was more than him.
adding the posts at OM and here and ATS was like about 45000, numbers had about close to 4000 posts all together, Tomi had about 3000 , thats just 2 people..then mine about 3400. I forgot I ad 700 when first leaving OM. just 3 people morethan 20 percent..in those alone.thats 1/5 . You are absolutely right, I would not call that a big audience reach..Had it been spread out with more people..than ok...but concentrated..its not. like saying gee..they reached a market of like less than 30 odd folx. people.
No wonder Numbers wanted to keep up the conversation going after he Killed it.


Yeah, the game NDA's are very common. Blizzard was able to keep Diablo 3 under covers pretty good. That's the game I'm really looking forward to. I play online (hard core solo mostly). Agree about WOW, never cared for the huge community, mindless mission after mission and the requirement for these marathon sessons with literally hundreds of players to do certain things. Kids eat it up.

Sadly, in the future there will be that constant percentage of people who will look back on the drones and just believe it real for no other reason that it was once reported and on the net. Someone should (or has) probably calculated the number already for such a belief system. 42% would be a nice universal number. Maybe it's tucked away in the reference section of some text book.

There's still mileage in the end game. And for those taking notes, it'll add pointers on what to improve on and avoid when the next one hits.
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« Reply #1068 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 07:43am »

on Jan 9th, 2009, 4:41pm, TeachersPet wrote:
Agreed DrDil, thats why we needent wait on anyone, just continue what we were doing prior.
They will let us know when they are ready.


Sometimes things have to be made so clear around here that it can not possibly escape anyone's understanding. I feel compelled to point out the most recent post on the UFO-USA blog.

Nemo is absolutely correct here and this is why I "freaked out" when I saw you post repeatedly the name of Marsave. I tried to take prophylactic action in a very subtle way in a PM to you and since then nothing has ever been the same.

We can argue the toss about if they are real or hoax on the various forums and I believe arguments and research from both sides have been fabulously deep and insightful.

But to compromise people in this by your standard of conviction that everyone but you is nefarious in this game has been really the worst part of this scenario.

And what that has done is put a negative cast on every aspect personally between both camps, besides compromise and prolong this investigation.

I agree, that there was legitimate worry from the prohoax side that the DRT may not be using their resources to figure this out without looking at every aspect. And since this case is very dear to everyone, much was made by the pro-hoaxers to get their points across. But I tried repeatedly in posts to assure everyone that the PI's method would be without prejudice to hoax or real.

Now you are seeing the result of what pro's these PI's are. You can only imagine how much more expense, worry and heartache has been caused by indiscretions. The damage has been done, it still continues as far as it relates to me. Please do not gloat.

We all have contributed to this case, let's make the rest of our contributions as positive and helpful as possible.

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« Reply #1069 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 07:59am »

Tomi,
after Your masters putting my and Sidds name from an email on his website that was not meant for him from that Nesbitt lady at Aliencase, , which preceded all that..I can simply say.you don't know what you are talking about.
If anything..people did like Marvin, Radi, NeverEleven, Torvald, analysis, made heir finding months ago, and the only thing done by Nemo and crew was to try tear that down after that fact from over there., After they had input like from nekitamo, ark, SPFputting it up to begin with at OM. Thats pretty messed up.

You took no action with LMH to get the basin pictures, thats the one she told me in email are real..You offered up lying witnesses like Brent, and laughable myster x with a mystery go between, and the Scotts valley drone., right down from chad location . People read maps you know!
You got took then, if you all were not behind it somehow, with the capital investment involved,
As for the PIs, they do what they are told.
They are paid agents not volunteers. They did that part well, they report only to you. And you all in turn reported to someone else.
Respondeat Superior, let the master answer for the acts of his servants.
So to put it bluntly and ungentlemanly..You and The Core DRT, NOT the General Membership, I saw were pretty dishonest, unlike like Tuna, and SpinnMeister, and even Douglas, and GafMadcan .
But the rest of you can with that worn and Tired Punch and Judy show , Go Take a GIANT LEAP in the middle of a lake.




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« Reply #1070 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 08:36am »

on Jan 10th, 2009, 07:59am, TeachersPet wrote:
Tomi,
after Your masters



Here we have a good example of you having no clue about the people you attack. Me? Having a master! shocked Laughable if you knew me.. (In all schools of psychology, what you project onto others, is more than likely to be an unacknowledged situation within yourself.. keep that in mind..)

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putting my and Sidds name from an email on his website that was not meant for him from that Nesbitt lady at Aliencase, , which preceded all that..I can simply say.you don't know what you are talking about.



I believe I do know what you are talking about, because I sent sidd a set of handcuffs for you smiley.
There was teasing here when I did that in a friendly way, but what was behind what you were doing is more worrying. That was the genesis of this debacle that arose afterwards.. would you like to go into detail how you engaged that lady in this caper and what exactly you were going to prove by doing this? That other people have evil intentions.. sans you??

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If anything..people did like Marvin, Radi, NeverEleven, Torvald, analysis, made heir finding months ago, and the only thing done by Nemo and crew was to try tear that down after that fact from over there., After they had input like from nekitamo, ark, SPFputting it up to begin with at OM. Thats pretty messed up.
You got took then, if you all were not behind it somehow, with the capital investment involved,



Nobody can ever accuse me of not appreciating all the efforts of everyone here, prohoax and prodrone and those on the fence. I think that would be the more rational way of reflecting on it.. don't you thinkhuh

How can you have only the prohoax material being considered without the prodrone? You need both sides to consider any research, you need observations, study and review. You are talking about review and contention, all perfectly responsible responses to an issue. Nothing to wage a contentious war over where people personally get harmed. IMO

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So to put it bluntly and ungentlemanly..You and The Core DRT, not the General Membership, who I saw were pretty sincere, like TTuna, and SpinnMeister, and even Douglas, can go take Take a hike.



It is time to take a more gentlemanly approach to this. And stop whinging about not being in the center of the action. You have worked tirelessly at this and for that I hold the utmost regard for your feelings here. Can't you spare a little regard for others?? Had you provided some trust in what is blatently obvious, the PI's are professional liscensed investigators.. the debate between real or hoax would have continued but people and the investigation would not have been harmed.
Two very different issues that should never be mixed in with excuses.
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« Reply #1071 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 08:38am »

re read I edited while you posted.
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« Reply #1072 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 08:51am »

on Jan 10th, 2009, 08:38am, TeachersPet wrote:
re read I edited while you posted.


Now you are mixing the issues again. It is good there is contention in the research, that way all brains can find aspects other brains may have missed..

If witnesses go on record who can not provide photos and if photos go on record without witnesses, that is the story as it is unfolding. How can you negate any of this when it is still part of an ongoing case? An ongoing case requires all the aspects to be researched and documented.

It is JMO... but right now I would not want to place a bet that the drone saga is only an internet hoax without something deeper being tied to it.

Would you like to do this investigation and dismiss such possible connections? hmmmmm?? A bit like shooting at something and hitting your foot isn't it?

I have an idea.. instead of annomosity, lets have a gentlemen's bet instead.. I bet there is more than simple hoax here.. want to put your money where your mouth is smiley
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« Reply #1073 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 09:07am »

You are asking US to join in doing what we already have been doing for two television seasons? .
You are just getting to the conclusion, the experts you all disdain, came to.
Its clear to me that DRT can't be trusted, as they pushed this saga to the limits..but failed in that, and now have to admit..Hoax.

What is the advantage to Joining forces..
You embraced Lev, who in turn stuck it to you,,left not because of any discovery by you but me. You still don't know about him, and I am not sharing, and if interlocitor wasn't a clue to you, it was to me.
That shows bad decision making..and there were more than one and the agenda.....I am not, but the rest are free to do whatever..
A leopard does not change his spots overnight.

You and DRT have the opportunity for a graceful exit, take it while you can..Don't ask me for any special consideration..You have the hoaxters still among you..always did from the beginning.

Bet?...hahahaha..You take after Isaac, He would bet his life.

No, bet what I already know?..nope..Smarter to cut your losses and go home don't you think?

and not with a rigged deck.












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« Reply #1074 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 09:20am »

on Jan 10th, 2009, 08:51am, tomi01uk wrote:
It is JMO... but right now I would not want to place a bet that the drone saga is only an internet hoax without something deeper being tied to it.
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I bet there is more than simple hoax here.. want to put your money where your mouth is smiley

More than a simple hoax it may be Tomi, but unless it transpires that the Drones are representative of an alien technology then a hoax is undeniably what it is….. kiss

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« Reply #1075 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 09:23am »

If we did it would be Quid pro Quo, we want a piece of the action too..some of that money. Show me the money..

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« Reply #1076 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 09:36am »

on Jan 10th, 2009, 09:07am, TeachersPet wrote:
You are asking US to join in doing what we already have been doing for two television seasons? .
You are just getting to the conclusion, the experts you all disdain, came.

Its clear to me that DRT can't be trusted, as they pushed this saga to the limits..but failed in that, and now have to admit..Hoax.

What is the advantage to Joining forces..



I don't think you understand. I'm not in DRT core anymore thanks to my more "unilateral" approach to ppl and the dire situation that arose when you posted this very impt person to the PI's name. There is no joining forces. Just an investigation and the PI's hopefully leading us all to the truth unimpeded.

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You embraced Lev, who in turn stuck it to you,,left not because of any discovery by you but me. You still don't know about him, and I am not sharing, and if interlocitor wasn't a clue to you, it was to me.
That shows bad decision making..and there were more than one and the agenda.....I am not, but the rest are free to do whatever..
A leopard does not change his spots overnight.



I'm shocked shocked You are keeping secrets!! huh Since when?? Why can't I know? I want to know.... How can you hide such important information from everyone..
You must be up to something evil.. wink

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You and DRT have the opportunity for a graceful exit, take it while you can..Don't ask me for any special consideration..You have the hoaxters still among you..always did from the beginning.



If this is the case, then the proper course of action would be to inform the PI's.. Don't you think?
You will have a record of your letter. If your info is relevent it will be something positive you can add to this case. All you can do is work with the same decorum that you have seen marsave provide and the PI's.
Do not make mistakes where ppl's lives are concerned. But I think you have misjudged everyone here. And vice-versa to some degree to. As nemo said, the truth is what is important and I might add so are people.

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Bet?...hahahaha..You take after Isaac, He would bet his life.

No, bet what I already know?..nope..Smarter to cut your losses and go home don't you think?

and not with a rigged deck.



There is no reasoning with you is there?
Funny thing about this case..

Everyone says "you sleep with dogs you catch fleas"..
my husband,
the drt,
the debunkers...


aiyiyi... rolleyes
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« Reply #1077 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 10:21am »

I already Posted my Take on this..so I will repeat it again..

Yes Dr.. finesse , the studio finesse, is there on the photos and when Josh admitted completing episodes and then revising them, ie taking and addin in crap at the last minute like that episode 13, which had Isaac to start with..well that was a little much..I Found SCC blogs and sites with codes, complex number sequences to decrypt, just for keeping interested fans alert. Same pattern as others like the Topcola people for games like halo..and slusshy for JJ abrams movie:Go there go here..some sites are still up like Isaac and having two or three was nothing. That was a red flag right there.
The drone releases were like dot on top of dot with Fox...in 2007

Isaac had its codes and themes of living and intelligent metal as well., just like the movie..and when Numbers had mentioned he was divorced, and Isaac talked about hiis divorced friend, and Robert talked about his Father , it was as if subliminally they were working us on several levels..Numbers has the same name as StoryBoard used by Josh, and other Producers. , They have used subliminal messages flashing across screen in SCC too. "The Turk is not Dead"..So that technique is what you may have picked up as the something other than Prank in this convoluted mess.
Why is the reaching a crescendo now?, well..the contracts almost over..hahaha and SCC2 is coming out next month, and you have tie ins to T4

The markets tested were same as represented in ARC and DRT, US, FR, UK, De Germany, Au.
Remember, Virgin in Uk picked up series too, as well like SA network. They are same as Alien ware Market. Thats why they all tie together.and market together.
I'm sitting back as I am confident thats what it is.

What thru me off was Woy, who passed himself of as Asian at OM,aka Mocs at myspace.
http://www.myspace.com/nagflar
when he manipulated that 45 meg picture with photoshop adornment of characters. Dopefish..I was the Dope..I sent Marvin links to that months ago.
He is in Richmond Va, same as that storyboard musician and music producer of the band Crackers that lives in our target area, in Santa cruz and has a sound studio in Va.Deborah is also in Va..If its not Numbers, then he is one heck of a groupee with non abductees syndrome.
But it makes sense if you want to distract and buy time..
I took the bait, and he has never posted since,

That essentiall is what has been going on stretching and buying time, imo until the Series kicks in February.
Warners, Disney,MgM, DO NOT EVERtake stuff like that and boilerplate copy into a movie without paying for it, or giving a modicum of Credit..I gave example at Screen Rant..Its that simple!..Even Josh, who is credited with screenplay in War of the Worlds, did NOT write it, but because he helped they credited him..That was just for idea..think about..just idea ..Isaac did more than Idea. Josh did not credit..He bought or its his..or handed down by C2 makers of terminator people. Same people.

Viral mktrs, test marketers..have built in Psychological teams to develop profiles and behaviour analysis.a as proficient as a military op, in fact military contract with them.
But this isn't miltary imo. Its commercial, with potential military appplication..because it becomes a database for human behaviour on global setting. They can sell it to anyone..the same way mailing lists are sold..but a lot more bucks..if not, helps them maintain their own competitive edge..they are constantly testing.

Anyway..Thats my take for now..In the meantime, I hope MarsAve can post a message on his hobby website so we can get confirmation its him. That will eliminate that cloud its not him..its a routine thing..nothig personal should be made of it.


Since you have a take on this saga..and

Since you are no longer a core member I am amused you continue speaking for them and lavishing praise.
so lets hear Tomis Take on all this instead of opinion as to my tactics..which served our purposes..whats your take Tomi.. or are you still running the clock.....Imagine if the admins Put hoax on this thread..now that its official..like at ATS..would you continue carrying this on here...That would leave only OM, and I can see why they don't and never will..
Still..lets here your take on possible causes behind this.
Thats what the thread is about.



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« Reply #1078 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 10:32am »

I'm only two paragraphs down trying to make sense out of what you are saying and the only thing that comes to mind is the movie..

It's a mad mad mad mad mad world..
other than that... I'm clueless to the movie link you are suggesting..

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« Reply #1079 on: Jan 10th, 2009, 10:35am »

Christ Tomi!!
I didnt ask you to comment on my take, I asked what is YOUR take tomi!! Do you have any crazy or wild or any opinion at all whats behind this?
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