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« Reply #1305 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 07:14am »

The DRT hacks are nothing but shameless BS artists desperately trying to hide behind some demented travesty of "scientific method." It is a joke, and it is disgusting. These people are either sick or cynically manipulative, or perhaps both. I do not blame Sysco for leaving.

Really, people, this is beyond pathetic.
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« Reply #1306 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 08:12am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 07:14am, Double Nought Spy wrote:
The DRT hacks are nothing but shameless BS artists desperately trying to hide behind some demented travesty of "scientific method." It is a joke, and it is disgusting. These people are either sick or cynically manipulative, or perhaps both. I do not blame Sysco for leaving.

Really, people, this is beyond pathetic.


LOL - that's what I say to the "New Church" of The Dawkins fascists smiley

But with regard to DRT it partly provides a balance to the considerations of pure hoax.
Which is necessary. IMHO
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« Reply #1307 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 08:58am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 08:12am, tomi01uk wrote:
But with regard to DRT it partly provides a balance to the considerations of pure hoax.
Which is necessary. IMHO


So tomi you freely admit the DRT is manipulating evidence to counter "pure hoax" !!!

A hoax is a hoax...there is no such think as a partial hoax.

Sys, you will be missed......I feel the drone enigma has ended and only the truly gullible still have any faith in this shameless BS!!
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« Reply #1308 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 09:42am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 08:58am, TheShadow wrote:
So tomi you freely admit the DRT is manipulating evidence to counter "pure hoax" !!!

A hoax is a hoax...there is no such think as a partial hoax.

Sys, you will be missed......I feel the drone enigma has ended and only the truly gullible still have any faith in this shameless BS!!


You manipulate my words. I'm talking about full specturm debate not paranoid delusions about anything being manipulated... rolleyes wink
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« Reply #1309 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 09:45am »

You are going to be missed TP.
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« Reply #1310 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 09:47am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 09:45am, Marvin wrote:
You are going to be missed TP.


Seriously cheesy IMHO ... there is better chance of the drones being real than of TP quitting... smiley
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« Reply #1311 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 09:49am »

Hey Shadow Man, good to see ya.

I am beginning to think it's hopeless. The last time I visited OMF, I saw there was a discussion about the Dr. Reed hogwash. No doubt "Dr. Reed" and his cronies are there, stirring the "debate" and bilking whoever they can.

I think more people believe in "Dr. Reed" than believe the drone BS! The DRT doesn't believe in the drone crap any more than you or I do.
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« Reply #1312 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 09:51am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 09:47am, tomi01uk wrote:
Seriously cheesy IMHO ... there is better chance of the drones being real than of TP quitting... smiley


There you go with yet another Freudian slip! Man, this is tiresome.
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« Reply #1313 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 10:26am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 09:51am, Double Nought Spy wrote:
There you go with yet another Freudian slip! Man, this is tiresome.


What can I say?
The path to enlightenment is as sharp and narrow as a razor's edge.

Esp where drones and fingers are concerned ! cheesy
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« Reply #1314 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 10:34am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 08:12am, tomi01uk wrote:
LOL - that's what I say to the "New Church" of The Dawkins fascists smiley

But with regard to DRT it partly provides a balance to the considerations of pure hoax.
Which is necessary. IMHO



Hi Tomi,

A balance is a good thing.

I think the frustration (on the other side) is what is offered as a balance.

Opinion debates are fine… but unfortunately, they seem to cause more friction and bickering (IMHO) than to reveal any truths about the subject.

Example, the last debate on Chad… does he live in Bakersfield or near Saratoga? If one looks at Chad’s words, he sees the Drone often just outside his window (sees it on walks, has worries about his wife and unborn child’s health and so on). Some members of the DRT have pushed forward the possibility (or opinion) of Chad having two houses (even though Chad said he would have to stay with relatives).

Based on the evidence given by “Chad,” if one were to make an assumption, Chad has one house.

For the location of Bakersfield, this is in the public domain as being told by Chad to LMH… even though the actual sighting took place almost 300 miles away (near Saratoga).

If the DRT is of the opinion that Chad has two houses, that is fine. But as soon as the “two house theory” is being pushed as “evidence” that Chad is not being misleading about his location… it must be backed with objective evidence, not with deductive justification.

The issue in this theory, is that Chad claims to see the Drone where he lives and where the photos were taken… and we know that was not in Bakersfield.

To make things worse, Lat argued that Chad never said he lived or took the photos in Bakersfield. The only way this can be true is if Lat is on the inside of that information (i.e. he is Chad)… or he is claiming LMH is not telling the truth. Then Lat offers no evidence to support his claim that Bakersfield is wrong.

I believe this will give some insight into the balance issue some of us are having.

If the balance were logical and supported by evidence… then I believe a balance is a good thing.

Just my opinion.



http://droneteam.com/history/chad/
A plug for the DRT site. smiley

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« Reply #1315 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 11:00am »

Not many, if any at all, has put more into the pursuit of the truth than Sys.

I salute you.
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« Reply #1316 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 11:29am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 11:00am, murnut wrote:
Not many, if any at all, has put more into the pursuit of the truth than Sys.

I salute you.


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« Reply #1317 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 11:38am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 10:34am, Marvin wrote:
Hi Tomi,

A balance is a good thing.

I think the frustration (on the other side) is what is offered as a balance.

Opinion debates are fine… but unfortunately, they seem to cause more friction and bickering (IMHO) than to reveal any truths about the subject.



My opinion is waiting for what the pi's uncover. At which time we might all have to have an attitude adjustment. smiley Or at least half wink Which half I don't know! Maybe even all of us are wrong... !

Who can be so certain anyway ? And not really want it confirmed? smiley
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« Reply #1318 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 11:52am »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 11:38am, tomi01uk wrote:
My opinion is waiting for what the pi's uncover. At which time we might all have to have an attitude adjustment. smiley Or at least half wink Which half I don't know! Maybe even all of us are wrong... !

Who can be so certain anyway ? And not really want it confirmed? smiley


Maybe while they are at it, those PIs could confirm the pythagorean theorem for us, too. rolleyes
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« Reply #1319 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 1:02pm »

Although copied from another board, and no replies interestingly enough?

I too am beginning to think, the truth doesn't matter any more. It is a psychological phenomena these bulletin boards and the internet. The truth would only get in the way!

"You are absolutely correct, there will never be disclosure. In order for there to be disclosure the mainstream media and the average Joe public would have to come to a realization that there is serious merit to the concept of UFOs, and extraterrestrials.

Unfortunately that will never happen; this critical juncture will never be reached because the mainstream media and the average American public view the whole topic of ufology as a fringe element, cult, Jim Jones activity, Heaven's Gate etc. etc.

Just look at what dominates the UFO community. Although the "Real Mufon" may have the lofty goal of a scientific approach, and try their darndest to separate fantasy, fiction from reality their efforts are but a pee drop in the ocean. In fact I doubt if the UFO community as a whole actually gives a hoot about the truth.

Just look what dominates the UFO community.

Not in any particular order.

Hoaxters, for whatever reason those who perpetrate a hoax, take for example, the Jonathan Reid (sp) fiasco which was monetarily motivated, the alien autopsy, which again was monetarily motivated, and the Haiti video, apparently a just for fun motivation, the drones, apparently a viral campaign, which Mufon recognized as hoax from the beginning since all the pictures have been CGI modified.

Profiteers, those who would sell something, usually a book, or something if you buy their story. This ties in with the hoaxters so there is some overlap between these two categories. What about the huge UFO that was supposed to appear over Alabama. But you can still buy her book. And many still do.

Want to believes, these are people who have a "grass is greener on the other side" mindset. They believe the aliens are here to save us, and anything even remotely to anything that suggests alien or extraterrestrial immediately becomes a cause for them. A blotch on a photograph, somebody else's story, anything related to UFOs they believe, no amount of scientific investigation can convince them otherwise.

And finally the group that I just call for want of a better word the crazies. And these are people who usually seek attention especially on Internet bulletin boards and would fabricate any story. These people usually have low self-esteem and see the UFO phenomena as an opportunity to seek public attention and justify their own self-worth. The bulletin board ends up being a form of therapy for these people. While they may post in various boards they eventually find they have a greater audience if it involves something to do with UFOs and they are less likely to be challenged (since the phenomena remains unproven). Put in this category also the conspiracy nuts, those who have some sort of beef against the government (IRS taxes). Toss in also religious fanatics, and those who put a religious slant on everything including UFOs.


There are probably several other categories I could define but for the most part this is what constitutes the UFO community. The average public in the mainstream media are also aware of this. This probably represents 95% of the UFO community. Unless the UFO community straightens up it'll only get worse and there will never be disclosure."



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