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« Reply #1320 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 1:39pm »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 11:38am, tomi01uk wrote:
Who can be so certain anyway ? And not really want it confirmed? smiley


Mufon is certain. They concluded hoax long ago as many of us did. Every CGI expert that offered analysis of hoax is certain. Simply put, the research of the photos provided certainty. The Drones are a hoax. The complexity, magnitude and origin of the hoax is the question. If the PI's can uncover that.....great!

As we reach the endgame, we do need to thank those that invested time and money into the investigation (the DRT) but at the same time, their denial of obvious evidence that pointed to hoax has lead to the proverbial egg on the face syndrome.

The investigation was never conducted objectively, but rather on the assumption that these remarkable photos were actually real unaltered photos. Isaac's claims were also accepted without reservation and without any confirmation as were the photo witnesses and their testimony.

The drone case has been a folly. A ploy. A setup. Thankfully, there are no objective skeptics among the victims.

Hopefully, when the DRT finally accepts that the drones are fake they will realize that their long and winding investigation took the long route to a conclusion that was reached by others long ago. And then they can begin looking for the culprits.

Then the egg will begin to wash away.... wink
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« Reply #1321 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 1:46pm »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 11:00am, murnut wrote:
Not many, if any at all, has put more into the pursuit of the truth than Sys.

I salute you.

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« Reply #1322 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 2:05pm »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 1:39pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
As we reach the endgame, we do need to thank those that invested time and money into the investigation (the DRT) but at the same time, their denial of obvious evidence that pointed to hoax has lead to the proverbial egg on the face syndrome.


Do you mean "as the DRT possibly reaches endgame"? Because if the DRT stops what they are doing, or stops GIVING us the info, then this saga does not officially end! There has been a lot of quality research done, but unless the DRT brings out the facts, then this will never reach your endgame...

And the only egg that they will have to wash off, will be the eggs thrown by you and a very few others, IMO only...

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« Reply #1323 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 2:11pm »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 2:05pm, newtothis wrote:
Do you mean "as the DRT possibly reaches endgame"? Because if the DRT stops what they are doing, or stops GIVING us the info, then this saga does not officially end! There has been a lot of quality research done, but unless the DRT brings out the facts, then this will never reach your endgame...

And the only egg that they will have to wash off, will be the eggs thrown by you and a very few others, IMO only...

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Please! This was dead over a year ago. The only thing keeping any discussion going is the boneheaded "investigation." Any reasonable person would have to ask why that is. Hence the suspicion. Duh.
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« Reply #1324 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 2:11pm »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 2:05pm, newtothis wrote:
Do you mean "as the DRT possibly reaches endgame"? Because if the DRT stops what they are doing, or stops GIVING us the info, then this saga does not officially end! There has been a lot of quality research done, but unless the DRT brings out the facts, then this will never reach your endgame...

And the only egg that they will have to wash off, will be the eggs thrown by you and a very few others, IMO only...

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tsk tsk...such bitterness. You do realize that most every Ufologist dismissed the drone case as bogus long ago. Lack of verification, no authentication or documentation and lack of witness participation doomed the case. Expert photo analysis was accepted by most objective thinkers. So the endgame came and went long ago as far as Ufology is concerned. Even the UFO Hunters TV show concluded hoax. The endgame I speak of is the DRT ending their crusade of a drone reality. And the egg they wear for doing so. wink
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« Reply #1325 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 2:14pm »

I think the endgame has been reached, this is just post game replay and analysis, for next time, last one out turn off the lights.
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« Reply #1326 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 4:09pm »

Hi! I have been lurking for sometime, and am just amazed how long this has gone on. I was sure the Drones team would be first to post the full pictures of the Raj site. At first, I thought it was safety considerations, but with how these people all seemed to know each other and live in the same area, within minutes of each other, I don't think it was the Rajiman family they were worried about. It seems more themselves.
Since they don't seem inclined to answer, you and the majority are within your rights to call it what the prior analysis said it was, a hoax I would think. Particularly as all that work is readily available for anyone to refer to at several sites.

I find it odd, someone would ask are we 100 percent sure, as if reasonable and objective certainty based on overwhelming facts, were insufficient.

Sitting looking from the outside,all this time, I can say with some level of assurance , that it looks (subjectively) like some play for extra time.
None of Jeddyhi, and Gorts, and Marvel's and Doubles and knievals questions are ever ever answered except in the most vague and nonsensical manner.
Thats my perspective, of course.
I hope I have not been too foward with my opinion in my first post.

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« Reply #1327 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 4:14pm »

Hi Denise. Welcome to the forum! Not to forward at all. Great observation. wink
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« Reply #1328 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 5:11pm »

on Jan 16th, 2009, 4:09pm, Denise wrote:
Hi! I have been lurking for sometime, and am just amazed how long this has gone on. I was sure the Drones team would be first to post the full pictures of the Raj site. At first, I thought it was safety considerations, but with how these people all seemed to know each other and live in the same area, within minutes of each other, I don't think it was the Rajiman family they were worried about. It seems more themselves.
Since they don't seem inclined to answer, you and the majority are within your rights to call it what the prior analysis said it was, a hoax I would think. Particularly as all that work is readily available for anyone to refer to at several sites.

I find it odd, someone would ask are we 100 percent sure, as if reasonable and objective certainty based on overwhelming facts, were insufficient.

Sitting looking from the outside,all this time, I can say with some level of assurance , that it looks (subjectively) like some play for extra time.
None of Jeddyhi, and Gorts, and Marvel's and Doubles and knievals questions are ever ever answered except in the most vague and nonsensical manner.
Thats my perspective, of course.
I hope I have not been too foward with my opinion in my first post.

G'day





Welcome Denise.


To be fair... we do get answers, I just wished they would be more fact based. Those in the DRT are in a special position to "know" things and many here still look up to them as being experts. There is a responsibility and burden for all of us (who have investigated this affair) to carry... history and people can sometimes be harsh judges.
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« Reply #1329 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 5:32pm »

Hi Denise. The UFO realm has been described by some of its more astute survivors as a "hall of mirrors." Welcome to the Island of Smoke and Mirrors! Since you have been following this mess, then I assume you have already figured out that a good pair of overshoes is necessary much of the time.

Feel free to speak up whenever you like. A little fresh air will do us all some good!
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« Reply #1330 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 5:42pm »

You are so kind and considerate, and noble Marvin, and Double,I am sorry I mispelled your name. After reading hundreds of posts, and their answers, I agree it left something to be desired.
I enjoyed that exif analysis being done, and can't wait to see the rest of what is around the pole!

I wonder what advanced googling technique they used?
Is it possible, they had the picture all along? I seem to recall a conversation about a picture, without a drone.
But that may be something totally unrelated.
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« Reply #1331 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 5:43pm »

Looks like MarsAve joined and posted an opinion on DRT. grin
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« Reply #1332 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 5:54pm »

Oh dear, they seem to be all over the poor man and his opinion!

Hello MarsAve:
Thanks for your reply but I don't get the point of your post below. It's just a repeat of your previous opinions.
Plus, some of it doesn't make sense and is filled with strange contradictions. Your dismissal of Drones is oddly loquatious.
I guess you and I will just have to politely disagree. Douglas



Poor Mars, he is in a hornets nest.I guess you are never too old to learn.

He is very talented. Of course, it was the spiritual guru Douglas mostly that objected to him. That seems one old dog you can't teach any new tricks, unfortunately.

What is loquacious, is that like loko?
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« Reply #1333 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 6:18pm »

It was not a warm welcome. He has some applicable knowledge to add a valid opinion yet because itís not a supporting one he gets put in his place. However, to be fair, that opinion may have been a violation of terms of membership.
But.... on the otherhand he's not the one who pasted his post from the other forum and was simply responding to another post.

Thatís what gets me about DRT website, seems you can make any left field speculation with zero basis and itís accepted if itís pro-drone.

Does not help the core team. They need to better differentiate themselves from the general membership. Just my humble suggestion from what I've seen.
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« Reply #1334 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 8:10pm »

lol...I was just reading some old posts by leviathan, and I came across this one:

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http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=230.30

Today my friends and I took a walk around what we call the farm. We saw many anomalies that can not be readily explained as to light and shadow and photographed some. So this latest business seems to us to be a tempest in a teapot. If this can convince anyone that looks at nature that the Drones are CG because of this, then they need to take a walk and see that nature is unaware she is breaking the rules of CG renderers. We mentioned this to nature and she seemed entirely indifferent to human rules. She only shook a little and continued in her ways.
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