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« Reply #1365 on: Jan 18th, 2009, 8:43pm »

Super great points Jeddyhi!
There is a reason Josh said kissing cousins as well as blogger, its the same family!
That is why changing the stage scenario is important, since by relocating the pole and house and family, neighborhood , to now outside Capitola, perhaps even by miles, they can avoid addressing those problems of no police calls, and several thousand people milling around.
They have the pole and lamp, and obviously must have a house and family as described.

That is why I don't understand: the hesitancy of saying anything about the house and family, and of course..the neighborhood. That leaves a pretty big hole in the actual story description. Rajs Brother in Law to be, has the camera, the pictures are their property,and obviously there must be by virtue of their backgrounds, engineer and artist, at least one computer with the pictures in it. After all, they would know, especially the father, they are worth a lot of money, should the RAW ones be real. I doubt they would have erased them, privacy concerns or not.
I am shocked the Earth Files Lady, has not beaten a path to their door. As they shared all past witnesses, and in reality, from my stand point, she would not even need Rajman.
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DoubleNaughts point is a very important one, as Leviathan crossed the legal line by using a third party to implicate an Exopolitic person via that elaborate alien design, as I understood it reading the old posts here. He had very good incentive to drop that blog,
in the event more came out of that situation by the real Daniel.
Lets speculate for a moment.
Given, this is a hoax, are the benefactors of the DRT, willing to cross the same line to substantiate Rajman and come up with a family , given that for a viral marketing enterprise, there is money in the kitty to do this and the objective is deflect all connections to the Warners, LMH and C2C,since what we have are essentially puppets and actors anyway, and what is occurring is a "script revision" to accommodate that?
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« Reply #1366 on: Jan 18th, 2009, 9:16pm »

I agree. They have the pole the lamp post the neighborhood and obviously the future in laws of Raj!

I am sure they are going to tell us what a desolate and dangerous area it is.....I am betting there are lots of pot farmers too!!

Be careful DRT.....we wouldnt want old Lat getting mauled by a pitbull guarding Raj's stash!!!
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« Reply #1367 on: Jan 18th, 2009, 10:50pm »

on Jan 18th, 2009, 12:08pm, Denise wrote:
I really enjoy the choice for colors in posting remarks here by the way, and I hope the little girl pink is appropriate, in this case tongue


Sys, your choice of the little girl pink is only appropriate for you i believe... wink

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« Reply #1368 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 06:55am »

Thank you sister, you know, I could sense there were more of us in here,
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« Reply #1369 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 06:59am »

Ah, this is why I like these sites. Itís one huge soap opera that reminds me of the OJ trial. You need a daily scorecard and play book. If the pole donít fit ÖÖ laugh laugh laugh
Seriously, it would be a mistake and poor form to release the names or try to drag the people of that house into this circus if they know nothing. Itís not right to do and would be no better (perhaps even worse) than the hoaxers. Not everyone wants their name in a paper or tossed around on a message board. lipsrsealed
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« Reply #1370 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 07:51am »

on Jan 19th, 2009, 06:59am, Katterfelto wrote:
Ah, this is why I like these sites. Itís one huge soap opera that reminds me of the OJ trial. You need a daily scorecard and play book. If the pole donít fit ÖÖ laugh laugh laugh
Seriously, it would be a mistake and poor form to release the names or try to drag the people of that house into this circus if they know nothing. Itís not right to do and would be no better (perhaps even worse) than the hoaxers. Not everyone wants their name in a paper or tossed around on a message board. lipsrsealed


Hi Katter, I love soap operas!! Bold and the beautiful, Days of Our lives, Remember Victor Neuman? What a hunk!!, That Nikki was such a plug, lipsrsealed but I am off topic here, yes I agree, but you know, there is always the old tried and true they knocked on the door by now, and that tells me if they had them, they would not even be posting a plea to Raj. They would be parading the find if they have the whole kit and kaboodle.So it must be wrong family, and or wrong house, or no house that fits the story as told by the RAJ, especially times to take the pictures between each frame, looking at apparent distances in them.
It sounds like a grasp for straws just bid for time.
Raj is not in the least threatened, especially if he fabricated whole family and identity. If real, By now then he has talked to them by now and said dont answer questions or told the PIs his story himself.
The PIs would have left a card. That plea, I fear, unfortunately is of little effect., unless there is another plan in the works for some alternate ending.
That house and family is the key. The reality of the pole was never in doubt, everything else was.

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Remember Sally from Specter Fashions had whats her name working as a maid? that was payback in spades!
Remember when Victor knew Nikki was lying about her cancer and he bought her a pink coffin and showed it to her?
That was hilarious. grin
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« Reply #1371 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 09:20am »

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To Raj:

Hoping you are reading this, you can guess we would like very much to talk with you. We do not want to expose you to the public. Your privacy and anonymity will be preserved.
Please contact DRT at T.K.Davis Investigations, either by mail, email or phone. A visit to the website below will get you the contact information. Please use the residence's name so we know it is you.

http://www.tkdavisinvestigations.com/

We have been working on this case for almost 2 years now, we leave the choice to you to help us.


A little speculative analysis here.

OK, after reading this message once more I notice that 11a used "residence's" name as opposed to "resident's" name. The name of a residence would be more like knowing the location or street name of a house or apartment building, whereas the name of a resident would be knowing the name of those that dwell in said residence. I suppose this could just be a typo since 11A is french and english is not his first language.

If not a typo, then it appears that nobody at the pole location ever heard of Raj or the drones. Probably nobody in the whole neighborhood ever heard of Raj or the drone. So my first impression seems more accurate now. Basically the pole location revealed nothing helpful towards a drone reality but does indeed tend to bolster a hoax theory.

The message above is a plea to a hoaxer to come forward. Name the residence (not the resident's name for a hoaxer would not know the names of those who lived in a nearby house).

The end is so near....the chase is almost over. Nothing to do now but to see how the DRT reacts to their drone reality being a fantasy. Numbers spewd some kind of bs to MarAve about how they are not 100% believers. I will relent and give him that. What they are, or have been, are hoax promoters. Without shame or fear of ridicule, they have shone the spotlight on and promoted the drone hoax better than the hoaxers could have hoped for. And now that they are about to be eating crow for believing in this Isaac/Caret drone hoax, they wish to change the menu. Truth seekers and hoax hunters don't eat crow. rolleyes

Leopards cannot change their spots as they close in on the prey. This is why everyone criticized the DRT for promoting a drone reality and rejecting all hoax evidence. There was never any objectivity and now that is coming back to haunt them.

Maybe if Ty and his group of biker friends come forward the day will be saved....or not!
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« Reply #1372 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 10:13am »

Thats curious Jedd, as the Ty Basin story was the only one read that Linda Howe said she believed. She said matter of factly, 'They are real", in an email to a poster EnlightenedSeeker and quite a few others.
I retrieved tha and it does say"
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The Big Basin photos of the huge, menacing, "drone" are real


The DRT have been rather silent in that direction. I would say, they won't touch it.Still, I would imagine as Linda mailed a letter to Ty's hardmail and got no response, that it might be a valid location.. I am sure the PIs checked that by now, why no response or status onthat? It would certainly give us a broader picture of whats going on. What's so hard about saying the address location was either real or fake, after almost 2 years?
Does the cat have someone's tongue? wink
The way I see it, Raj was born on line, so no damage to Linda there, but the other ones, Chad and TyB, went thru her. That means she had and continues control or release of information, that could be devastating to her.
Keep the focus on Raj, would be their plan, not on TY and Chad that point to her.
Did the PIs verify the Ty mail address?
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« Reply #1373 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 10:15am »

on Jan 19th, 2009, 09:20am, Jeddyhi wrote:
Maybe if Ty and his group of biker friends come forward the day will be saved....or not!



Not... wink
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« Reply #1374 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 10:25am »

Speaking of Ty and his biker group, after all the publicity the case received, including stories in the Santa Cruz Sentinel, I wonder why they never came forward to contribute anything. One of Ty's biker friends said that a newspaper would never print Ty's pics or carry the story. He was obviously wrong. Where are these witnesses?
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« Reply #1375 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 11:37am »

Hey Denise,

This whole business reminds me of this song from Portal:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYLVb2FcAas



Still Alive:

This was a triumph.
I'm making a note here:
HUGE SUCCESS.
It's hard to overstate
my satisfaction.
Aperture Science
We do what we must
because we can.
For the good of all of us.
Except the ones who are dead.
But there's no sense crying
over every mistake.
You just keep on trying
till you run out of cake.
And the Science gets done.
And you make a neat gun.
For the people who are
still alive.


I'm not even angry.
I'm being so sincere right now.
Even though you broke my heart.
And killed me.
And tore me to pieces.
And threw every piece into a fire.
As they burned it hurt because
I was so happy for you!
Now these points of data
make a beautiful line.
And we're out of beta.
We're releasing on time.
So I'm GLaD. I got burned.
Think of all the things we learned
for the people who are
still alive.

Go ahead and leave me.
I think I prefer to stay inside.
maybe you'll find someone else
to help you.
maybe Black Mesa...
THAT WAS A JOKE, HA HA, FAT CHANCE.
Anyway this cake is great.
It's so delicious and moist
look at me still talking when thereís science to do
when I look out there
it makes me glad I'm not you
Iíve experiments to run
there is research to be done
on the people who are
still alive.


and believe me I am still alive
I'm doing science and I'm still alive
I feel fantastic and I'm still alive
while your dying Iíll be still alive
and when your dead I will be still alive
still alive
still alive
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« Reply #1376 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 12:06pm »

Hi Marvin, Yeah, that was a nice Portal link and a treat. Everytime I heard "this image processed" just made me giggle smiley
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« Reply #1377 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 12:28pm »

As we wait around for Raj to gather up his electrons from the ether and make his next "appearance," it might be a good time for some review. Here is an image of the evidence that points directly to an Internet hoax:

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And here is the Drone Research Team's evidence that points to the drones being real:

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Lastly, it would not be good journalism smiley to leave out the Vault. You know, the room set aside way back in the middle of '07, down at the court house, for the actual, real, verifiable evidence supporting the claim that the drones were real in any way. Quite a lot of crap had to be cleared out to make this space available. Most of it was sold on eBay. This was back before the world economy really started to crumble, so the sheriff's department did pretty well. Jimmy Hoffa's rolodex brought a bit over $5,000. Anyway, I got a deputy to sign out the key so I could go down there with him and take this picture this morning:

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« Reply #1378 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 1:48pm »

I noted that John Titor dropped in at the ATS forum and commented on the hoax. Its amazing how other writers like Victor martinez of Serpico,, and Titor, Zeiglos, etc. can come in and comment in agreement. Everyone just pecking away to make our lives interesting.

By the way those bicyclers with Ty B, remind me so much of ET bicycle scene, , and the movie Goonies with their bikes. Just watched it again and still a great film.
That mountain, is that the one they call Witch mountain?
Mt.Shafta or something? cheesy
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« Reply #1379 on: Jan 19th, 2009, 1:54pm »

Hey Denise... just for you. wink

Still Beleive

This was a triumph.
weíre making a note here:
HUGE SUCCESS.
It's hard to overstate
our satisfaction.
Based on Science
We do what we must
because we can.
For the good of all of us.
Except the ones who say hoax.
But there's no sense crying
over every mistake.
You just keep on trying
till you find itís a fake.
And the research gets done.
And you make a funny pun.
For the people who all
still believe.


I'm not even angry.
I'm being so sincere right now.
Even though you broke my heart.
And slammed me.
And tore me to pieces.
And threw every piece into a pile.
As they flamed and burned it
I was so sorry for you!
Now these points of jest
make a beautiful rhyme.
And youíre done with the test.
You're releasing on time.
So I'm GLAD I got burned.
Think of all the things we learned
from the people who all
still believe.


Go ahead and leave me.
I think I prefer to stay off on the side.
maybe you'll find someone else
to help you.
maybe the D*T...
THAT WAS A JOKE, HA HA, FAT CHANCE.
Anyway this thread is great.
It's so insightful and true
look at me still blogging when thereís research to do
when I look out there
it makes me glad I'm not you
Iíve experiments to run
there is research to be done
on the people who all
still believe.


And believe me that they still believe
I'm doing research and they still believe
we show proof and they still believe
while weíre trying they will still believe
and when weíre gone they will still believe
still believe
still believe
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