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« Reply #300 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 08:20am »

I'm now not so sure about the drones being viral marketing for the SCC. I found a viral website related to the Sarah Connor Chronicles and there is no mention of the drones at all. Check it out.

http://enitechlabs.com/index.html
http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/EniTech_Research_Labs

This terminator wiki link has a hunter/Killer drone listed but looks nothing like the "drones".

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Non-Humanoid_Hunter_Killer

If the drones are related to SCC in a viral sense, it is a connection that has not been as easily identifiable as Enitech.
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« Reply #301 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 09:59am »

@Jeddyhi I dont think so either despite some similarity I noted and posted at ATS, If there is it may be to some T4 rbotics. Both films are as Natalie said, like seperate Universe, though she may borrow on future scenes like flashbacks from the future. Is not SC I am following as a lead but Alienware and Warners, historical partners prior to Isaac. Warners in 2006 Purchased a 10percent stake in Eios a well known game maker. This mutual backscratching is old hat for them.I did find a copyright dated august 10, 2007 for that desktop theme.
so all impregnation with desings and lettering took place within 45 days of Isaac release, . particular to the M15x.and warners liked it so much they use it .
If it was none of them, why that would leave poor c2c and Linda, who aside from her silence, is withholding the hi re pix, email adresses and ips , caught untruthing, and was closest along with c2c who dropped it on us.
We certainly wouldn't want that would we?
@Marvin, the more you learn (sic) them them the dummer you get. They need scraps to justify their existence as a DRT, we don't. I would tell them after all has been done to go talk to the hand. Otherwise it leaves the impression that yours and all the other analysis was not enough to prove deliberate tampering,Tampering which does not occurr spontaneously in a natural universe.


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« Reply #302 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 11:09am »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 05:47am, Jeddyhi wrote:
I hear ya, Mur. This quote by majicbar is quite astounding and revealing.

"I still think that the cloaking/invisibility aspect of the drone might also distort the local atmosphere and thus also the shadows falling on the drone."

In this one statement, Majic rejects all shadow and light research and evidence of a hoax and finds it easier to accept that a yet to be proven to exist drone may have a cloaking machine that effects shadows. For the love of God, am I the only one that sees the weirdness in that?

I'm sorry as well, Nek. Not aimed at you personally, just venting my frustration. Sorry to get off topic. We should not turn this into a "Bash the DRT" party. My apologies.


Jed, you need to understand Majicbar's words more completely. You see, this is the difference between us and them. Majicbar said the key word "might". He never stated as fact that a shadow distortion is in effect. This is called being open minded (a common drt member trait).

Remember the tiny connecting rods of the BB drone? How they were criticized for being impossible? Remember the criticism about the unconnected cage bars? This criticism was silenced (and shown to be closed minded) when Isaac revealed the pacl documents detailing the "Rigid Spacial Relationship" effect.

But some people have a hard time thinking outside the box. They only think in Earth grounded terms and limited ways. Your accusation that Majic is rejecting anything is unfounded. You don't know his thoughts. It seems to me that Majic has merely pointed out a possibility however remote it may be. Remember the drones supposedly are able to be not only invisible but silent and also impervious to ballistic weaponry.

Haven't you noticed in the drone pics how the spikes fade out at the top? Why is that?

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« Reply #303 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 11:54am »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 11:09am, Latitude wrote:
But some people have a hard time thinking outside the box. They only think in Earth grounded terms and limited ways. Your accusation that Majic is rejecting anything is unfounded. You don't know his thoughts. It seems to me that Majic has merely pointed out a possibility however remote it may be. Remember the drones supposedly are able to be not only invisible but silent and also impervious to ballistic weaponry.

Haven't you noticed in the drone pics how the spikes fade out at the top? Why is that?




Are you saying the spikes fading out at the top is a sign of some effect made by the craft… therefore, showing it is real?
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« Reply #304 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 11:58am »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 11:09am, Latitude wrote:
Jed, you need to understand Majicbar's words more completely. You see, this is the difference between us and them. Majicbar said the key word "might". He never stated as fact that a shadow distortion is in effect. This is called being open minded (a common drt member trait).

Remember the tiny connecting rods of the BB drone? How they were criticized for being impossible? Remember the criticism about the unconnected cage bars? This criticism was silenced (and shown to be closed minded) when Isaac revealed the pacl documents detailing the "Rigid Spacial Relationship" effect.

But some people have a hard time thinking outside the box. They only think in Earth grounded terms and limited ways. Your accusation that Majic is rejecting anything is unfounded. You don't know his thoughts. It seems to me that Majic has merely pointed out a possibility however remote it may be. Remember the drones supposedly are able to be not only invisible but silent and also impervious to ballistic weaponry.

Haven't you noticed in the drone pics how the spikes fade out at the top? Why is that?



"a yet to be proven to exist drone may have a cloaking machine that effects shadows. For the love of God, am I the only one that sees the weirdness in that?"

I know Majic said might, as you can see above, that is why I said may. Regardless, the idea is ludicrious. To account for shadow anomolies some would rather speculate that their is a cloaking field on an imaginary craft that alters shadows......For pete's sake, is there any sanity left lol! You are all rejecting anything that suggests the drones are fantasy. Look at a picture of a drone and tell me in all honesty that you believe such a craft is actually real. That you could picture one hovering over your backyard. It's as real as a Star Wars X-wing fighter. laugh

There is abundant evidence of hoax, some people are just obsessive about wanting it to be real. And these same obsessive people know there is not a snow's ball chance in hell that it will ever become recognized as a real sighting. Not enought evidence, testimony, documentation, or witness participation.

When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.

Remember that MUFON has determined hoax. Starfire Tor, as a favor to Streiber investigated and analyzed, had her experts investigate and analyze, and detemined Hoax. Numerous CGI experts have detemined hoax, UFO Hunters determined hoax. Just who on this green and blue planet besides a select few at the DRT even believes the drone case at all?.....no one!

In order for there to be a cloaking field that distorts the atmosphere and causes shadows to be wrong, the drone first has to exist. Or at least strong compelling evidence needs to exist that suggests the drones are real.

To speculate about cloaking fields, the drones purpose for being here, what it is made of, etc......its all fluff that serves no purpose. Its like wondering what kind of thermal underwear Santa wears and what he feeds his reindeer.

Remember that thinking outside the box does not mean throwing out sound reason and research. It does not mean rejecting evidence solely because the evidence is not supporting of a postion or stance. It means looking at something from different angles. Thinking outside the box is applying unconventionial problem solving where conventionial problem solving fails.
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« Reply #305 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 12:12pm »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 11:58am, Jeddyhi wrote:
To speculate about cloaking fields, the drones purpose for being here, what it is made of, etc......its all fluff that serves no purpose. Its like wondering what kind of thermal underwear Santa wears and what he feeds his reindeer. Lets prove that Santa exists before we speculate on his life.



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« Reply #306 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 12:19pm »

I believe too! It was just the first anology that came to mind......Sorry Santa! grin
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« Reply #307 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 12:24pm »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 11:09am, Latitude wrote:
Remember the drones supposedly are able to be not only invisible but silent and also impervious to ballistic weaponry.


And thats according to an anonymous guy that enhanced the drone story and disappeared. Thats compelling evidence! Impervious to ballistic weaponry? I missed that part.

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Remember the tiny connecting rods of the BB drone? How they were criticized for being impossible? Remember the criticism about the unconnected cage bars? This criticism was silenced (and shown to be closed minded) when Isaac revealed the pacl documents detailing the "Rigid Spacial Relationship" effect.


Sounds like Isaac showed up just in time. And with explanations for everything. That is what I call awfully convenient. Just because an anonymous source speaks doesn't necessarily mean he speaks the truth. It is all part of the hoax. Why did Isaac sneak out top secret papers in his pants ( rolleyes ) in the first place? So in case an invisible, cloaked object was ever spotted, he could be johnny-on-the-spot with pertinent info? Come on, Man!
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« Reply #308 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 12:38pm »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 11:58am, Jeddyhi wrote:
Regardless, the idea is ludicrious.

...For pete's sake, is there any sanity left lol! You are all rejecting anything that suggests the drones are fantasy. Look at a picture of a drone and tell me in all honesty that you believe such a craft is actually real. That you could picture one hovering over your backyard. It's as real as a Star Wars X-wing fighter. laugh

There is abundant evidence of hoax, some people are just obsessive about wanting it to be real. And these same obsessive people know there is not a snow's ball chance in hell that it will ever become recognized as a real sighting. Not enought evidence, testimony, documentation, or witness participation.

When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot and hang on.

Remember that MUFON has determined hoax. Starfire Tor, as a favor to Streiber investigated and analyzed, had her experts investigate and analyze, and detemined Hoax. Numerous CGI experts have detemined hoax, UFO Hunters determined hoax. Just who on this green and blue planet besides a select few at the DRT even believes the drone case at all?.....no one!

In order for there to be a cloaking field that distorts the atmosphere and causes shadows to be wrong, the drone first has to exist. Or at least strong compelling evidence needs to exist that suggests the drones are real.


IMO, over 30 good pictures (along with eyewitness accounts and a gov whistleblower) from 6 possible separate sources is compelling enough to consider it. Plus there is all the other ancilary stuff like the newspaper reporter running from the PIs and the emails to Bren and Ivo, plus the location data found by the PIs and drt and a whole mess of other stuff.

What you see as evidence of hoax I see as either flawed or speculative. You state this stuff as fact when it is very far from it.

Why does it bother you so much that we ask what if?

We don't care if the world does not recognize the drones as a real sighting. It does not bother us one bit. To tell you the truth, imo it will never be accepted. That's just the way it is and nothing can change it. But I don't care. I will continue to follow and study the case. Sorry if that offends you.

So "Starfire Tor" says it's a hoax? Ha ha. grin

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« Reply #309 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 12:48pm »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 12:38pm, Latitude wrote:

So "Starfire Tor" says it's a hoax? Ha ha. grin


Yeah and what makes it really funny is that she is on the fringe, a true believer in almost everything....except the drones! grin

Her report is actually quite professional though. Have you read it?

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« Reply #310 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 1:02pm »

Someone's dream or hoax another's reality


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« Reply #311 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 1:06pm »

Mr. Jeddyhi,

You just lost my goodwill here:

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To speculate about cloaking fields, the drones purpose for being here, what it is made of, etc......its all fluff that serves no purpose. Its like wondering what kind of thermal underwear Santa wears and what he feeds his reindeer.



I know I said, that I was gone from here for a while, but this post simply aggrivated me so much, that my Christmas nightcap simply fell off!

To ridicule the speculations of how and why the Drones might work, as it is a great issue taken on here, by a lot of physicists lurking, I assure you! And surely has no resemblance to "Santa" as quoted!

I am very angry to see the work of so many belittled by the so very few!

I sure hope this quote was a joke, I surely hope so, because if it's not, I sincerely weep my dry tears for those whom laid in a trusty work trying to discover the workings of the "Drones", including myself!

If we're seeing more of this, I suggest you lay this whole issue to rest, and let serious investigation happen elsewhere.

Merry Christmas,

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Ps: Edit to please mr. Jeddyhi (I hope I didn't offend you by misspelling your name, as it was nothing more than a typo!)
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« Reply #312 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 1:07pm »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 12:48pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
Yeah and what makes it really funny is that she is on the fringe, a true believer in almost everything....except the drones! grin

Her report is actually quite professional though. Have you read it?



Whoever said the drones were fringe? wink

Yes I saw it. She seems to be speaking out both sides of her mouth, trying to satisfy some people.

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« Reply #313 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 1:12pm »

on Dec 19th, 2008, 12:38pm, Latitude wrote:

So "Starfire Tor" says it's a hoax? Ha ha. grin


Hopefully she will travel into the future and tell us who the hoaxers really are! grin

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« Reply #314 on: Dec 19th, 2008, 1:17pm »

DrStern,

I am glad to see you are still with us.

Have you seen the movie K-Pax? Where a man claims to be an alien named Prot?
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