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« Reply #585 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 12:18pm »

on Dec 30th, 2008, 05:26am, Double Nought Spy wrote:
My first post is below, from a week ago. It should not take too much brain power to figure out why I joined. I'm still waiting for an answer from the DRT about that one, too.

Why was such a thorough job of making the drone vanish done for the purpose stated? And doesn't that doctored picture refute the DRT argument that the drone photos are too good to be fake? Any DRT members care to address those two questions? That would actually tell us something, instead of wasting time on the same bogus arguments that have been laughable for a year and a half.

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Is this the photo you are referring to?


on Dec 23rd, 2008, 2:53pm, TheShadow wrote:
Picture of Raj pole (Pic 16 i believe) with no drone uploaded by 10538 (aka Latitude/Numbers) on the DRT forum

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« Reply #586 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 12:21pm »

Geez Doc you'd make a great PI! Sure you're not a government plant? grin So we can deduce from your work Issac wasn't very smart at covering his tracks and his identity is known by Uncle Sam.
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« Reply #587 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 12:23pm »

Yes, Marvin, that's it. That photo has bothered me for a long time. Maybe it's just me, but I think it bears a close look.
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« Reply #588 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 12:29pm »

on Dec 30th, 2008, 12:23pm, Double Nought Spy wrote:
Yes, Marvin, that's it. That photo has bothered me for a long time. Maybe it's just me, but I think it bears a close look.




Then, FYI:

This is the original EXIF data from Pict0016:

EXIF.Make / Software EXIF.Model Quality Subsamp Match?
---------------------------- ----------------------------- --------------- --------------
SW :[Adobe Photoshop ] [Save As 10 ]

ASSESSMENT: Image is very likely processed/edited


This is the EXIF data from Lat’s version (Drone removed)

EXIF.Make / Software EXIF.Model Quality Subsamp Match?
------------------------- ----------------------------------- ---------------- --------------
CAM:[SONY ] [CYBERSHOT U ] [ ] Yes
SW :[Adobe Photoshop 7.0 ] [Save As 07 ]
SW :[Apple Quicktime ] [0466-0467 ]
SW :[Digital Photo Professiona] [05 ]
SW :[IJG Library ] [075 ]
SW :[MS Paint ] [ ]
SW :[MS Visio ] [ ]
SW :[ZoomBrowser EX ] [low ]

The following IJG-based editors also match this signature:
SW :[GIMP ] [075 ]
SW :[IrfanView ] [075 ]
SW :[idImager ] [075 ]
SW :[FastStone Image Viewer ] [075 ]
SW :[NeatImage ] [075 ]
SW :[Paint.NET ] [075 ]
SW :[Photomatix ] [075 ]
SW :[XnView ] [075 ]

ASSESSMENT: Image is very likely processed/edited

Position Marked @ MCU=[ 32, 14](0,0) YCC=[ 816, 90, -27]
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« Reply #589 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 12:33pm »

on Dec 30th, 2008, 12:21pm, GForce wrote:
Geez Doc you'd make a great PI! Sure you're not a government plant? grin So we can deduce from your work Issac wasn't very smart at covering his tracks and his identity is known by Uncle Sam.



I hate to say this GForce, but for a number of us... this is old news. There are many aspects of Isaac's story that has more holes in it than a colander.


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« Reply #590 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 12:36pm »

Thanks, Marvin. Jeddyhi did a very nice job of explaining our questions about the photo way back on page 33 or thereabouts, so I have quoted it below. What do you think?


on Dec 23rd, 2008, 3:47pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
That is the time that PICT0016 was taken. I'm not sure how that implicates Lat but like Double Nought Spy, I would like to know how the drone was removed so precisely. EXIF data reveals that the image was edited with GIMP. I presume so that the PI's could show a photo of the pole without looking like kooks.

After a brief examination of the Poleinfo photo, I did not detect any remnants of the drone, nor signs of cloning to remove it. Whoever did it was very precise and dillegent in their work. Why they were so precise is the question. If it was just to make a photo to show around in an effort to find the pole, why remove the drone so perfectly.

It almost seems like a copy of the photo before the drone was layered in.

Can anyone here (Marvin lol) detect signs of the drones removal? I realize the pic was resized to 800x600 but would that hide all traces of editing?
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« Reply #591 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 12:41pm »

on Dec 30th, 2008, 12:13pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Really good analysis DrDil. smiley

Would they pin point him down?


Thanks Tomi. smiley

By, “Would they” do you mean would they want to?

If so, then it’s a moot point, I was highlighting the fact that if Isaac believes that the information he supplied is NOT enough to narrow him down then he’s not as clever as he thinks.

I was also hoping to show that IP addresses, email headers, Fortunecity stamps etc. are all massively irrelevant apart from for physically locating Isaac’s whereabouts at present, which again is moot as Isaac claimed (and I was questioning) the statement that he couldn’t be ‘identified’, not ‘located’ i.e.:

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I should be clear before I begin, as a final note: I am not interested in making myself vulnerable to the consequences of betraying the trust of my superiors and will not divulge any personal information that could determine my identity.

on Dec 30th, 2008, 12:13pm, tomi01uk wrote:
And who is "they" after all this time?

Well, “they” would be the persons at the highest levels of security within the respective department whom are trusted with enforcing NDA’s, plugging sensitive information leaks and orchestrating damage limitation should a security breach occur.

Surely if CARET is now defunct (perhaps they solved the alien artefact riddle kiss) then this regulatory obligation would be transferred rather than simply abandoned, surely?

Just my humble opinion (as always) of course….. smiley

on Dec 30th, 2008, 12:21pm, GForce wrote:
Geez Doc you'd make a great PI! Sure you're not a government plant? grin So we can deduce from your work Issac wasn't very smart at covering his tracks and his identity is known by Uncle Sam.

Cheers Gforce and right back at ya’. wink
(Especially the government plant part as I've seen your pro-NWO rants elsewhere on this board!! laugh)

Maybes this is why Isaac disappeared?

Maybe the genius was having an off-day when he wrote his letter and was found within hours of posting the documents.

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« Reply #592 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 1:00pm »

It seems to be standard operating procedure for "them" to keep close track of people who have held the sort or position "Isaac" claims to have held. There are many, many stories in the literature of credible former military officers or civilian employees who worked in secret programs who have contacted established UFO researchers, only to clam up when the researcher tried to follow up. Usually, the researcher has not told anyone but maybe a fellow researcher or two, which leads them to think their phones are monitored. The witnesses sometimes describe visits or phone calls that let them know in no uncertain terms that they have crossed the line.

One of the good things LMH has done for us is to provide many of Leonard Stringfield's reports and other documents on her web site. Stingfield had a long career as a ufologist, and there are some very amusing stories in there about this sort of thing.

If there were any reality to this at all, with drones blossoming all over the Internet, there would have been a proactive effort underway to control any further leakage. By the time "Isaac's" stuff appeared, someone would have already been watching him.
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« Reply #593 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 1:16pm »

on Dec 30th, 2008, 12:36pm, Double Nought Spy wrote:
Thanks, Marvin. Jeddyhi did a very nice job of explaining my questions about the photo way back on page 33 or thereabouts, so I have quoted it below. What do you think?






Maybe this is helpful:


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« Reply #594 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 1:18pm »

I thought Issac was dead? grin
Since the info was already leaked it was too late to pull it all back. Same fate probably eliminated all the other characters. That's as plausible as most other explanations with most of this script. rolleyes
Regarding that picture of the pole minus drone. I do not think it that difficult to remove the drone. Is there a hi-rez version of it available?
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« Reply #595 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 1:19pm »

Same old arguements that lead no where. Lets face facts...the DRT will continue to propagate this hoax til the end of days and anyone with a shred of common sense has known for some time the drones do not exist......so the question has to be.....WHY IS THE DRT SO INTENT ON KEEPING A KNOWN HOAX ALIVE??

I am sure we also are still waiting patiently for my old buddy Numbers to answer a few imperitive questions that have been asked (and ignored)!!
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« Reply #596 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 1:21pm »

on Dec 30th, 2008, 1:19pm, TheShadow wrote:
Same old arguements that lead no where. Lets face facts...the DRT will continue to propagate this hoax til the end of days and anyone with a shred of common sense has known for some time the drones do not exist......so the question has to be.....WHY IS THE DRT SO INTENT ON KEEPING A KNOWN HOAX ALIVE??

I am sure we also are still waiting patiently for my old buddy Numbers to answer a few imperitive questions that have been asked (and ignored)!!

Your lack of imagination is impressive!!
Try again.... cheesy
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on Dec 30th, 2008, 1:21pm, elevenaugust wrote:
Your lack of imagination is impressive!!
Try again.... cheesy


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« Reply #598 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 1:32pm »

Have you guys noticed Marvin's animation up there? I put on my best glasses, and then cleaned off my monitor, and I think Numbers ain't the only one who has some 'splainin' to do!

How long did OTF spend erasing the drone?
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« Reply #599 on: Dec 30th, 2008, 1:44pm »

on Dec 30th, 2008, 1:32pm, Double Nought Spy wrote:
Have you guys noticed Marvin's animation up there? I put on my best glasses, and then cleaned off my monitor, and I think Numbers ain't the only one who has some 'splainin' to do!

How long did OTF spend erasing the drone?

Mmmm, let me think... Something like 3 seconds?? grin
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