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« Reply #780 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 5:42pm »

@ Trigonometry works with Astrology too and is very beautiful and Astrology has a great following. Its just a POV, and we can "disagree "politely" and "sweetly", but still a pseudo Science.
If anyone wants to see how a real live fraudster responds to questions on the air May I recommend the just aired podcast at TheParacast.com
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/media.blubrry.com/paranormal/www.theparacast.com/podcasts/paracast_081228.mp3
The Bill Knellis interview. It is amazing how he stick to the story and can explainaway findings of fact, and create excuses as he goes along.
This guy had me going for first 15 minutes, and then the roof fell in. Same league as Reed and others and worse.
And he was just on C2C.!! They never Vette, Like Linda..Thats what happened here as well.
Like Sidd said..why? Because it was Easy!!
By the way Marvin didn't you mention something about a dog selling business in Arizona on an OM thread ? This may be that guy My memory is foggy and can't recall precisely.
Anyway, this is why WE fight so hard..Its not just Pictures, its the people behind them, and its more than just sounding "sincere". Using that alone, we will believe anything and everything. Hoaxers and Scam Artists, Follow the path of least resistance..here..It was those that want to believe.
It works most the time, and why despite their obvious mistakes, C2c and Earthfiles are still in business.





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« Reply #781 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 5:48pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 5:42pm, TeachersPet wrote:
@ Trigonometry works with Astrology too and is very beautiful and Astrology has a great following.

Trigonometry have nothing to do with Astrology, but rather with Astronomy.
So it's real science.


FYI:
Trigonometry is a branch of mathematics that deals with triangles, particularly those plane triangles in which one angle has 90 degrees (right triangles). Trigonometry deals with relationships between the sides and the angles of triangles and with the trigonometric functions, which describe those relationships.

Trigonometry has applications in both pure mathematics and in applied mathematics, where it is essential in many branches of science and technology. It is usually taught in secondary schools either as a separate course or as part of a precalculus course. Trigonometry is informally called "trig".

A branch of trigonometry, called spherical trigonometry, studies triangles on spheres, and is important in astronomy and navigation.
[url+http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometry]SOURCE[/url]
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« Reply #782 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:02pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 4:30pm, elevenaugust wrote:
I understood your work on KK-LL pictures, but if I could gives you an advice, it would be to try to get the same result in a more scientific way; i-e using math to prove it (Trigonometry, for example).
I know you're allergic to the DRT forum, but you really should take a look here.




I still believe you do not understand that position… and I do not want to go off on a tangent.

But a simple movement of 5 feet (or any distance) towards the Drone (or away) will not reproduce what we see in the photo.

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The above shows the lateral camera movement.

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The above shows the change in Drone size verses the trees.

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The above shows a direct comparison of the two photos (KK and LL), showing the change in tree size and lateral movement.


It is all explained here.

But I am sure if Chad has two houses, then the Ty photo issues are just as easy to explain.
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« Reply #783 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:26pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:02pm, Marvin wrote:
But a simple movement of 5 feet (or any distance) towards the Drone (or away) will not reproduce what we see in the photo.

You right, it will not in your gifs, but the use of trigonometry will show that there is a few change in the drone size, using the photos, without artificially change size of either the drone or the trees. Just try it and put your results here!
What's with you against Trigonometry?
You don't like it or don't know how to use it?
The thing that you don't understand is that by making gifs like this, you're artificially change Drone/trees size, then it only shows the relative/apparent positions of both of them, not their real positions; so your comparison has zero relevance.
It's all explained here
Since the drone seems to jump to Ty, I guess I can say that Chad own two houses
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« Reply #784 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:34pm »

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« Reply #785 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:40pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 5:25pm, TheShadow wrote:
Not really. With a vector art program like Illustrator and a little time all of Isaac's diagrams could be made without all that much trouble or time. I have never been impressed with anything Isaac put out as by the time that crapola was released it was already pretty obvious the entire drone saga was nothing but an internet hoax built to suck in the gullible.


Seems like a lot of work for nothing.

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« Reply #786 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:43pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 5:42pm, TeachersPet wrote:
@ Trigonometry works with Astrology too and is very beautiful and Astrology has a great following. Its just a POV, and we can "disagree "politely" and "sweetly", but still a pseudo Science.
If anyone wants to see how a real live fraudster responds to questions on the air May I recommend the just aired podcast at TheParacast.com
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/media.blubrry.com/paranormal/www.theparacast.com/podcasts/paracast_081228.mp3
The Bill Knellis interview. It is amazing how he stick to the story and can explainaway findings of fact, and create excuses as he goes along.
This guy had me going for first 15 minutes, and then the roof fell in. Same league as Reed and others and worse.
And he was just on C2C.!! They never Vette, Like Linda..Thats what happened here as well.
Like Sidd said..why? Because it was Easy!!
By the way Marvin didn't you mention something about a dog selling business in Arizona on an OM thread ? This may be that guy My memory is foggy and can't recall precisely.
Anyway, this is why WE fight so hard..Its not just Pictures, its the people behind them, and its more than just sounding "sincere". Using that alone, we will believe anything and everything. Hoaxers and Scam Artists, Follow the path of least resistance..here..It was those that want to believe.
It works most the time, and why despite their obvious mistakes, C2c and Earthfiles are still in business.







Here is a posting I made over at the Paracast forum, I think it was, in May. I think it was in reference to some new "revelation" from that bat-dung crazy Al Bielek:

I met Bill Knell one time at a seminar he gave in a hotel conference room back in the 90s. He had tables set up all around the room with lots of dry-mounted photos and blown up images of MJ 12 documents, and so on. Many of the pictures were known to be questionable, and some were well known pranks. We're talking light fixtures reflected in window glass, stuff on the order of the Billy Meier Wedding Cake photo. There was a video tape of the then-new Alien Autopsy playing, and he chattered on about how "Kodak has analyzed the film and found it genuine." As we all know, nothing of the sort took place at Kodak. Anyway, he also has a famous story that he claims to have heard first hand from Walter Cronkite, who has said he doesn't recall ever talking to the guy, and has no idea where he got the story.

This latest uncheckable yarn from the master of the Tall Tale will fit right in with the rest of the "evidence" for the drones, which is a nice fit with the Montauk crapola, too. And here I was afraid the dronies would have to cast about for weeks before finding some other fantasy to adopt. This could be really big!
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« Reply #787 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:51pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:40pm, murnut wrote:
Seems like a lot of work for nothing.

Nobody works for free


I don't know about that. Was all the work Marvin and others did for free?
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« Reply #788 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:56pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:51pm, Katterfelto wrote:
I don't know about that. Was all the work Marvin and others did for free?


They have a purpose.

What's the purpose of all of this hoax work?

Just for poop and giggles?

There is a purpose...we just have not figured it out yet
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« Reply #789 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:59pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:26pm, elevenaugust wrote:
You right, it will not in your gifs, but the use of trigonometry will show that there is a few change in the drone size, using the photos, without artificially change size of either the drone or the trees. Just try it and put your results here!
What's with you against Trigonometry?
You don't like it or don't know how to use it?
The thing that you don't understand is that by making gifs like this, you're artificially change Drone/trees size, then it only shows the relative/apparent positions of both of them, not their real positions; so your comparison has zero relevance.
Since the drone seems to jump to Ty, I guess I can say that Chad own two houses
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I hold nothing against Trig… judging by your photo (with Lat), I took Trig before you were born. grin

But if you won’t post your Trig research here, then I guess I will hold on to my research. wink

If you can say Chad owns two houses, then I can say there is an issue with Ty's photos. grin

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« Reply #790 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 7:03pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:51pm, Katterfelto wrote:
I don't know about that. Was all the work Marvin and others did for free?



I am still waiting on my raise. grin grin grin

I guess I won't get it till I find that other house. tongue
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« Reply #791 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 7:04pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:56pm, murnut wrote:
They have a purpose.

What's the purpose of all of this hoax work?

Just for poop and giggles?

There is a purpose...we just have not figured it out yet


I could believe that. Some guy(s) with some graphic skills and imagination wanting to have some fun. Perhaps at some point coming forward to somehow profit either by stroking their ego's or visions of some cash along the way.
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« Reply #792 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 7:04pm »

Hey Eleven, Trig, Calc all math, the point iwas you can use math to build a nice picture, or as you say in your case Trigonometry, (metry from measurements) like Geometry,, lines triangles, and flat planes, which bramches into its own branch 3d geometry..point is
you have pictures I guess Geometry didnt work..so you say use trigonometery..
You should check again..Trigonemtric identities are used all the time to resolve problems of geometry..like geometry to solve problems that flat plane geometry cannot without lots of computation..but because of relationshis of sizes in triangles , triangles can.
Why with imagination, can use it to reconstruct a whole house like was done back a while ago to from a little corner,. Was that the house?, no but it looked good.or like in astrology use tables of sines and cosines of angles to detrmine correct lengths and distances and hard to get angle.:Simple Conveniences.


So don't be an Insulting JERK and try talking down to me !!.ike you said..its just a point of view..
You still think in your POV this is a toss of the coin..Its not..you still think in 2d terms as sfar as facts.. 50/50 .
Not in your wildest dreams.
we think in 3d..the "whole" thing facts and circumstances surrounding all the facts.

So contradiction obvious..3d universe inhabitant cannot convince a one or 2d inhabitant what his looks like..and you sir, imo, with that last crack, are no Gentleman..but you want to be treated like one..You are in every respect as I see it a Hippocrite and Fraudsters lackey with an agenda..To save your own Arses from embarrasment...
Thats another POV..
have a great day.

Katie and Mur..step back and look..Sid said it..BECAUSE IT WAS EASY..And Cheapest, FREE way to do it..
Thats why companies, legit and illegit, use virals work in Social networks..and God If you listened to Bill Nellis on that Paracast interviw..YOU know how They all use C2C to get their wares into the market....FortuneCity..FREE wbsite..and a ready market of buyers....People who want to believe.
How can anyone naively after all has been said over the years in this business ask why?
People lie for all kinds of reason..all the time, especially for fame or fortune or thrills, but those are only some.
To develop tables..test data, from peoples reaction..is another..still thats for in corporate world..thats the baseline tool for getting ok to go ahead with project, or new venture.
It is not complicated..somebody wanted one of these above.
Since most researchers dont carry Trig tables and Exponent logarthim tables around with them, to help them calculate, I will use simple arithmetic our puny minds are capable of
The facts and witnesses and story, did not add up to true.


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« Reply #793 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 7:07pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 6:56pm, murnut wrote:
They have a purpose.

What's the purpose of all of this hoax work?

Just for poop and giggles?

There is a purpose...we just have not figured it out yet


The purpose was to fool people. Doesn't have to be any more elaborate than that.
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« Reply #794 on: Jan 3rd, 2009, 8:21pm »

on Jan 3rd, 2009, 7:04pm, Katterfelto wrote:
I could believe that. Some guy(s) with some graphic skills and imagination wanting to have some fun. Perhaps at some point coming forward to somehow profit either by stroking their ego's or visions of some cash along the way.


Two years is a long time to wait....and the details, although not perfect, are fairly impressive.

I don't believe it is a hoax for hoax sake.
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