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« Reply #1065 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 11:08am »

on Jun 4th, 2009, 09:07am, Stubble Dot Pi wrote:
Good idea, Sammy. The Drone Rehash Team hasn't come up with anything new in months, and that was the astonishing revelation of the pole location. Zounds! What clever people! How on earth did they ever find that? shocked

Yes that was amazing, it was thru a secret boolean algorithm I believe, Nekitamo had developed, and which pointed almost dead smack in the area we told them To look months before..when we discovered that The PIs, hired thru Tomi, who never ever took notes, and Numbers, the similar poles and lights were in San Jose. Which ultimately zeroed in on Campbell, where we even discovered Lindas soothsayer Sylvia Schumacher Brown, The Pis Webmaster, lived as well, right around the corner and of course Mars Ave , a friend of the PI's. all who claimed never recalled seeing such poles, and intentionally never looked for them right there. A stunning "surprise" to all of them. Why, that would end things quickly, like a professional Photo analyst, would have also. Can't have that..why it wouldn't be a Saga for Tomi to go Gaga and keep it a never ending story.

We should all be humbled, humbled I say, knowing that the divine hand of providence is involved bringing this good group of people together, not exactly total strangers, if not..for exposing them.. cool

If lev wants to with a little persuasion, take the DRT location map himself and turn it into a pentagram..it looks like it was made for that.His Council of Nine would be ..sooo proud, and maybe grant a higher (if its hell woulld't it be lower?)degree, or make it a Council of Ten! ..its by invitation only you know..And even My dear friend Atto, told me in private, he was lulled into thinking he would be invited..I'm sorry Atto, thats how deals with the Devil or Snakes on a Plane often work. sad
.But unlike Levs group work on Abrahams /Isaacs wall, thats another story.
Attos work and designs has been used to help solve map puzzles in the series Lost s own maps. Purely generic similarity and reference, unlike Levs and Joshs .Kissing Cousins ..or Dead Ringers..
so that doesn't implicate Atto, I am sure.
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« Reply #1066 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 12:22pm »

on Jun 4th, 2009, 06:13am, tomi01uk wrote:
I don't want to start a contention here with you Gort, but I just read the last 10 posts you have made on this board and I would like to know where you get off. You have made no contribution of any new information, you have asked no questions, you have only criticised everyone else. You brought up my name numerous times in your posts and yet accuse me of attention seeking!

You accuse me of being a nutter who believes everything, and throw me in with the tin hat crowd over on Mufon. That is not true, I'm pretty skeptical but open minded. I am not frozen in a belief system and I have the ability (unlike some here) to see things not just as black and white but also the gray points inbetween. Something you might try cultivating if it is not too late.


where is numbers? your the only one left.


putting 1+1

why even persist if numbers has droped out ?


only logical reason is attention or some other unspeakable


I've gone through all your posts and see a consistant pattern. At least numbers had a sembelence of a distorted logic.


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Also, don't know if you are getting paid or are so incredibly obtuse, however in either case you at least have my sympathy.
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« Reply #1067 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 12:36pm »

on Jun 4th, 2009, 12:22pm, Gort wrote:
why even persist if numbers has droped out ?


only logical reason is attention or some other unspeakable


I've gone through all your posts and see a consistant pattern. At least numbers had a sembelence of a distorted logic.


Yep.. the same back.. what you wrote applies to you.
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« Reply #1068 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 12:39pm »

on Jun 4th, 2009, 12:36pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Yep.. the same back.. mate.. what you wrote applies to you as well.



Nice try but no cigar (monica) remember.


Guys, I've made my contribution. Thats it
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« Reply #1069 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 1:11pm »

on Jun 3rd, 2009, 01:19am, Sammy Davis Jr. wrote:
Speaking of Elephants of the mind, lets look at the a real one. in fact a wooly mammoth...My memory never falters at the sight of an Elephant. I think this one was ignored a little too long. Perhaps it should be let out for some air again.
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we know the creator of both sites is Tony Sova, because he also Built/hosted Todds Website.
Whats important is if you still don't see the elephant..is the date may 2004, with Isaacs name mentioned.
This is not to say Tony himself is the hoaxer, or even the Lawyer Todd..But they know. and that error they made proves it is a hoax, prescripted a long time ago. he is now in Washington state with softwired selling Joomla websites, which, by the way, I think even OMF is built on..
Now I like this kind of leak..its down home knitty gritty Real..Disclosure. I recall Nemo posted he site closing, but never commented on its contents.
Keep looking, eventually it will dawn on everyone, this really is an Elephant you can't ignore, whether its got mud and grime, or silky clean.
The only other person around at that time was Tomi, but that was Jan 25, 2004 at ATS..quite far from May 2004 . No connection there.
Thanx to cassiopia forums for the clip ..
So no matter what hapened after, or the next circus act in process. by DRT .....its just the fruit of a poisoned tree. cool


I did ask not to indulge her..lets continue Gort.

I think it would be Germane to look at Tony Sova and The Tony Sova references at the mormon off shoot Commune in Oregon, where he allegdley was once at. and the blending in later more non christian Sophia and egyptian based theology..
Its a bizarre and disturbing story.
We can't judge however by what the others did..however it gives us some insight into mindstates of these religious organizations as well as the webmaster of all three Isaac sites.
Right up your alley Gort.
Just google tony sova and ncc or click on the link with both..
If you can't find it..I'll post it later.
I have to pick up my kid from school at the moment.
Cheers
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« Reply #1070 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 5:00pm »

The Drone photos, LAP, etc can now be placed away. The RESEARCH is the key now and the logical next step of the hoax. All at this thread are to be congratulated at their work on this. Excellent work by all. Being a beginner at all this I can only weave in and out as this fascinating extension continues.
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« Reply #1071 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 6:03pm »

actually..the point of fake was proven a while ago. And you are correct about a next step.
But some fascinating puzzle solving is already ongoing at OMF..thats worthwhile if one is TRULY in awe of this thing..

But... to achieve that step we have to get to know, not in the biblical sense of course ,( but fairly close) these most fascinating players, the sin que non, this would never have happened. Lay a foundation..that will stand and not fall like the paper mache pictures they gave us., beautiful as they were, RIP.
Like the Tony above, and our very own precious Lev. Of, course that group, even just one of the group, were very hot to handle.
Why to show you just the mettle of the youngest, look at his early posts here at conspiracyclub.com, where he uses the nome de plume Cold and his TM IC..
His most deft use of literary conventions, simile and metaphor, no dangling participles, rapier like wit, is nothing short of a masterpiece. He, playing several roles, from 2005 to 2007..true to shakesperean tradition, left those poor unsuspecting members, in total bewilderment and dismay, some even groveling, begging even, for him to leave.
Its essential we understand the capability, the extent of their repotoire of these people.to give each one their just due...He was merely honing his skills for here ,there everywhere, hi and low, to and fro.smiley
He's well traveled,
I made my model for fun, did you! BTW I lived in the UK and worked there as an artist so don't get huffy.
I just don't see what can be learned from posting more and more fakes. Maybe you can tell me. I don't
quit easily, so I won't be going away, unless baned of course
omf june 24, 2007.
Some of recurring Typos seem so at odds with these peoples skills, like in that 2nd site Caret site..2004 post echologogies where that meant Technologies
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/search.php?searchid=16250&pp=25
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f34/hi-new-here-have-stupid-questions-1336-3.html

LEVIATHAN. I cant do anything to stop your trolling. I've reported you.

If you're TORCHLITHILL please give it up as you are not doing the forum any favours.

It's all gotton rather tiring.

Like watching 2 little kids in a sand pit.


Oh the research indeed is already ongoing Mask,
But these people are the real Meat of the Story;
And I have a good skewer greased for shiskabob just a goin, and thats where we are going to steer , or herd as the mktng peopl say, this discussion as we mosey on along.


Lagarasuram di Maskilieum








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« Reply #1072 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 8:07pm »

So much to learn and so little time.
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« Reply #1073 on: Jun 4th, 2009, 10:43pm »

you do the best you can mask..tomorrow is promised to no man..just do the best you can.
peace
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« Reply #1074 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 11:40am »

While Captain Sysco is planning a trip to the beach in order to recover from his recent visits to the psycho ward, I'd like to explore a possibility that hasn't gotten much attention lately. At least I hope Sysco is doing something like that. While craziness is not usually contagious, many of the afflicted tend to be energy sucks, which is why I can't deal with them myself for over about thirty seconds.

The Hollywood connections appear to be compelling to me, but of course all we have is a mountain of circumstantial evidence. Some of that evidence is, admittedly, based on the behavior of said nutcases, so I think it might be a good exercise to look at the only other possibility that makes any sense at all to me. I think of this as the "cult theory." People with actual educations in psychology can probably come up with a better name. I'd like to hear from such people in this thread. I must say the theory appeals to me, even though things like Whitley--er I mean Masker--showing up to tell us flat out that Hollywood is not involved in any way, only reinforce my working theory. Of the many unique phrases generated by this mess is "bipolar sock puppet," my current favorite. Say, maybe this is just a "unique phrase generator" in some galactic experiment, conducted by super intelligent chickens, or something. But anyway, there is enough aberrant behavior all around us to fill up a book. Hmm. I always wanted to write a book... But then the energy suck thing would put a stop to that for me, in short order.

So where are the current cult theories at the moment? I'm specifically interested in the one flaw I can see in the idea, and that's the control. One of the major factors, for me, in the Hollywood theory is the apparent corporate control. We are dealing with a lot of artistic people here, and I know enough about that realm to know they are not likely to form coherent groups or teams without some outside organizing agency. Having that happen without someone spilling the beans on another participant for some perceived slight or other after two years would be remarkable indeed. What am I missing here?
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« Reply #1075 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 12:26pm »

on Jun 5th, 2009, 11:40am, Stubble Dot Pi wrote:
While Captain Sysco is planning a trip to the beach in order to recover from his recent visits to the psycho ward, I'd like to explore a possibility that hasn't gotten much attention lately. At least I hope Sysco is doing something like that. While craziness is not usually contagious, many of the afflicted tend to be energy sucks, which is why I can't deal with them myself for over about thirty seconds.

The Hollywood connections appear to be compelling to me, but of course all we have is a mountain of circumstantial evidence. Some of that evidence is, admittedly, based on the behavior of said nutcases, so I think it might be a good exercise to look at the only other possibility that makes any sense at all to me. I think of this as the "cult theory." People with actual educations in psychology can probably come up with a better name. I'd like to hear from such people in this thread. I must say the theory appeals to me, even though things like Whitley--er I mean Masker--showing up to tell us flat out that Hollywood is not involved in any way, only reinforce my working theory. Of the many unique phrases generated by this mess is "bipolar sock puppet," my current favorite. Say, maybe this is just a "unique phrase generator" in some galactic experiment, conducted by super intelligent chickens, or something. But anyway, there is enough aberrant behavior all around us to fill up a book. Hmm. I always wanted to write a book... But then the energy suck thing would put a stop to that for me, in short order.

So where are the current cult theories at the moment? I'm specifically interested in the one flaw I can see in the idea, and that's the control. One of the major factors, for me, in the Hollywood theory is the apparent corporate control. We are dealing with a lot of artistic people here, and I know enough about that realm to know they are not likely to form coherent groups or teams without some outside organizing agency. Having that happen without someone spilling the beans on another participant for some perceived slight or other after two years would be remarkable indeed. What am I missing here?



Well Double Not I,

For me... I really need more tangible proof.

It has been a slick operation... I think I can honestly say that Lev would be proud of it. But as to the identities, time will tell.

All of the best to you!

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« Reply #1076 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 1:20pm »

Thanks, Marv. You are right, that old devil Time will tell in the end.

I hope my previous comment does not sound like a challenge. It was not meant as one. I've been pretty well sold on the viral-gone-bad theory for some time, so I want to learn more about alternatives. The cult thing would explain an awful lot, and in fact seems to me like the most reasonable explanation for some of the things we have seen. There is no reason I can see that it could not have been an aborted viral campaign that also generated a cult following. I keep being reminded of the cargo cults. It's not hard to picture some of the crazies sitting in "drones" made of reeds, on a well groomed runway, with coconut halves strapped to their ears, waiting for Isaac to return. Gawd, that's so sad...
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« Reply #1077 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 2:37pm »

on Jun 5th, 2009, 11:40am, Chicken Pot Pie wrote:
While Captain Sysco is planning a trip to the beach in order to recover from his recent visits to the psycho ward, I'd like to explore a possibility that hasn't gotten much attention lately. At least I hope Sysco is doing something like that. While craziness is not usually contagious, many of the afflicted tend to be energy sucks, which is why I can't deal with them myself for over about thirty seconds.

The Hollywood connections appear to be compelling to me, but of course all we have is a mountain of circumstantial evidence. Some of that evidence is, admittedly, based on the behavior of said nutcases, so I think it might be a good exercise to look at the only other possibility that makes any sense at all to me. I think of this as the "cult theory." People with actual educations in psychology can probably come up with a better name. I'd like to hear from such people in this thread. I must say the theory appeals to me, even though things like Whitley--er I mean Masker--showing up to tell us flat out that Hollywood is not involved in any way, only reinforce my working theory. Of the many unique phrases generated by this mess is "bipolar sock puppet," my current favorite. Say, maybe this is just a "unique phrase generator" in some galactic experiment, conducted by super intelligent chickens, or something. But anyway, there is enough aberrant behavior all around us to fill up a book. Hmm. I always wanted to write a book... But then the energy suck thing would put a stop to that for me, in short order.

So where are the current cult theories at the moment? I'm specifically interested in the one flaw I can see in the idea, and that's the control. One of the major factors, for me, in the Hollywood theory is the apparent corporate control. We are dealing with a lot of artistic people here, and I know enough about that realm to know they are not likely to form coherent groups or teams without some outside organizing agency. Having that happen without someone spilling the beans on another participant for some perceived slight or other after two years would be remarkable indeed. What am I missing here?

I’ve never bought the viral theory, from Halo3 back in the day up to the present SCC/Hollywood based one. Whether it’s as previously described (i.e. linked to a major production company) or merely a freelance artist, when you look at the timing and method of the original releases then IF associated with any of the proposed tie-in theories then it can ONLY be described as viral due to the fashion in which the releases occurred.

As for the cult thing I don’t think that’s it and I believe you’ve already hit the nail on the head when describing the viral theory, that is ‘control’. Because if you think ‘Hollywood’ is lacking without it then a cult simply can’t function without a clear leadership and what other reason could a cult have by releasing such information if not to recruit members? Or more precisely how could you recruit members if you’re an organisation unknown? I struggle to believe that this could be perpetrated by cult members because as again you alluded to with the ‘Hollywood’ theory then I feel that at least one would have broke ranks and attempted to claim ownership or prior knowledge by now.

Purely my humble opinion of course but I believe that at least one of the hoaxers has conversed with us or at the very least have certainly read what was wrote in the many forums, and for what it’s worth I don’t believe that financial gain was ever the motivation. A study seems infinitely more plausible than either of these two, not necessarily of the UFO community but a study of sorts? That’s not really what I believe but as I say it seems to me more plausible than viral gone bad or a cult 'project'.

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« Reply #1078 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 3:27pm »

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I don't find this on the web, so what is it!

A Study?
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« Reply #1079 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 5:16pm »

Thanks DrDil. I had forgotten about the "study" theory, to be honest. Springer over at ATS had an interesting idea way back when, that involved what I believe he called meme tracking. So then the next question is Who would do such a thing? The guvvimint is big on control, as well as secret and highly unethical "research." Sure is handy having the guvvimint around to blame things on. Seriously, I don't think the drones are government products, for several reasons.

I suppose I had not thought of the cult thing in terms of origins but of consequences. Eager believers flocked to any tidbit of news about the drones, and I think that's where I see the cults forming. That does nothing to explain where the images came from, or who authored the Isaac material, or why. It is probably obvious to the regulars here just who I suspect of being the main cult under this scenario. Actually I suspect them of far more devious and destructive things, but there just are not very many ways to explain the behavior of certain groups.

It occurs to me that if some institution sponsored the images and Isaac's tall tales in order to watch what happened, they probably had to hire more help to do the watching! I suspect words such as these sent into the innernets because of the drones number in the tens of millions by now. All because a significant number of people have really bad bs filters.
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