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« Reply #1080 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 5:29pm »

A real event, a hoax, a cult, a study. The only thing I suppose it is not is the truth or does the sum of the whole result in more than the sum of the parts! The internet is full of this thing!!!
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« Reply #1081 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 5:35pm »

You don't get out much, do you?
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« Reply #1082 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 6:06pm »

Enough.
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« Reply #1083 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 6:36pm »

Chicken pot pie? I lived on those almost exclusively when a bachelor!.now I'm onto finer things like Mickey D's and KFC. smiley

at this juncture..we can create a thread exclusively for the hoax sources.
But mind you..we must be very disciplined and thorough and persistent..three qualities no one can disagree we lack. well..almost no grinone.
Dr Dil seems very well oriented with the pholosophical basis of some of these groups, which are nitzschean, and self indulgent like the livyatans..which God is man..nothing outside him exists..No devil and No external God..then it offshoot Levs, .Temple of Set..acknowledge a jesus and a Satan , but believe in the egyptian God Set as Suprem..even they have their subset ..vampyric cults.

Others survive by adopting elements of prior religions, very similar too African evolution of Voodoo when it encountered Christian or other occupiers. A close look..will see same icons Mary, the saints yet different attributes..Chango 7 powers..etc.
Rome pantheon system did the same thing, incorporated evry conquered regions , only the christians refused..The Romans would live and let live, but required one acknowledge their Gods too along with yours..you refused. Then you died in the arena.

Gort and Horst, with the psychological aspects.

I think we can research that further..
Nothing in the Arc says we all have to agree..we all know hoax..and actually have come across some intersecting lines with religion.
Ones employed and whose work showed up on SCC..There is no ignoring that.

But Lets leave that then for the moment.

I recall John Lundens illusion makers wre supposed to have a film out on just this. In addition I wrote him aand he never answered..
Must be very busy.

we have a cult of crop circle makers.

Linda is doing a film with Jeff wilson, I believe secrets in the Fields

We have cattle Mutilations which some Pylon or Grotto (group that is local) no doubt may be involved with as part of religious ceremony.
Do any of the annual conclaves or meetings coincide with the events?
We have Whitley , the mystic businessman, and his Master of the Key..who interpreted the LAP, to fit LMHs agenda, as well as his.
He really sounds good on the radio by the way..

We saw One inverted character in the SCC node resembled tthe tetramegaton (ck sp) like in that pic with meant to mock phony lev.

We have Satanic rituals and dedications to open "portals" at Area 51, this has been documented.
Neveleven mentioned that, on the mass intent and reaction s of the populations exposed to symbology to power their sigil.

I have excluded sacrifices and molestations to activate chakra energy ..as too gross and disturbing for any reasonable adult here..and unnecessary..but for whatevr sick reason..thats what they do. There is part of belief system in one that the are using this to create a line for illuminati and antichrist..I would not doubt it..

The question..are they the focus of study or the initiators.

at least the voodoo just used chicken blood..and their cigars..for the most part..

I kind of liked the urantians and the Artherian society..do lots of good work, and don't gouge people for their money, unlike church of Scientology..just an observation.
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Gentlemen..this may prove daunting if not interesting..With Dil at the Helm..who knows where this may lead. Plus..Taking a page from Lev I can blame it on HIM if unfruitful..hehehehe tongue. I learned much from Lev. Jk..













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« Reply #1084 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 7:56pm »

Oh dear! I've opened a big ol' can o' worms. tongue When will I ever learn?
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« Reply #1085 on: Jun 5th, 2009, 9:36pm »

One of the interesting things I studiyng lev was his fascination with Indrid Cold mothman prophecies..A researche Andy Covel from where WV legend came from, built up an extensive Library and website.., tracing the event back to an old bridge collapse where a young girl died..people eventually forgetting the bridge and the girls ghost memory remained to the townfolk.
But more as the author traces the name itself to hindu mythology..indra and garuda where garuda the Birdman representing the medium of space extinguishes the fire Godds Indra flames and makes it cold..ie Indra cold..or Indrid cold..
we also are treated CIA drug and mafia operations in the area..so we can assume perhaps a tad of gov involvement in perpetuating or nurturing a myth. There is more of course, as agents at the time were coordinating escape for the dalai lama, and we get the nazi ufo and even Yeti, big foot some how interweaving itself into that mythology. and some very infamous cia experiments..
its a good read..and gives us an idea how this morphing occurrs and everyone seems to have a hand in it, or borrow a piece from it. Thus we see the transition to now in him.

Mask this should answer that question of yours.

http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=indrid+cold&d=76160297343186&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=5182d7c9,9353a30a

http://www.andycolvin.com/ for pix

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« Reply #1086 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 09:52am »

Boy, that didn't take long. Already we are at the epicenter of some first-rate weirdness. The Mothman stuff seems to be a place where many different kinds of bizarre events overlap. Curiously, that has made the subject something of an orphan, since it doesn't easily fit into a category like ghosts, cryptids, contactees, or anything "normal." Thanks for the links, Sys. I had not run across Mr. Colvin before, and he has some interesting things to say. I must say though that after a while I was disappointed that he left out Elvis and Wilhelm Reich.

Now it's obvious that I had not thought the "cult" aspect through before suggesting this course, yesterday, and I am still kind of thinking out loud here, but today I am thinking about what might be called the Cult of Disclosure. The term disclosure keeps cropping up, and seems to be a common thread with a lot of the participants in dronieland. Could Isaac and his incredibly awesome fake photos have been cooked up in order to force some kind of disclosure? (Please don't nobody accuse me of implying that any sane person would think that would work. I just want to explore the possibility that someone thought it would.) I know the idea has been discussed before, but is there any recent development that seems to support the idea? As DrDil points out, none of these scenarios are really plausible without someone in charge of the overall project.
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« Reply #1087 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 11:28am »

The word "disclosure" needs to be chopped up into bits, smashed, burned and buried! tongue
It's the catchall for everything nowadays. Read a post on ATS where someone is speculating the Air France crash is for some sort of disclosure. I can't read much of that conspiracy stuff anymore. Everything that happens now is a conspiracy because there are not instant answers, coincidents, incorrect/rushed info gets out and you can never close the barn door. rolleyes
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« Reply #1088 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 6:26pm »

Speculating from my point of view only here..
We know that the witnesses were false, so were their stories.
We know the pictures are composits.
We do know that a lot of work went into material released publicly.

We don't know if the objects in the pictures are cgi or real objects, models or otherwise..
We do know that the objects in the material released is so far is darn near impossible to replicate with the original "character" so far... by any artist who has attempted it. And many have come as close to almost perfection..

Issac's material.... immense amount of work..
Can't be dismissed off hand without devalueing this case.

Lately I've been watching old videos produced in the 70/80's early 90/s about the history of ufology. There seems to be this long legacy of cases similiar, yet not of this calibre, often taken seriously by old timers and the research archived now, referred to but part of the past.

Could any of this be true? Not for disclosure but for leverage. The only senerio that kinda makes sense to me so far is this.. Since 2007 (i know because i've had the word "drone" on Google alert since then) there has been a proliferation of the use of UAV's in Mil etc.

I think they started general use with that forrester type which looked out for fires. But now they are proliferating widely. Could this timing (the drone saga and the growing use of UAV's) have any connection?

It seems like a wild speculation, except when you consider the investment of work in the drone case, and the huge investment worldwide in UAV's...

Here's my theory: Could this release of information be the way that some group long invested in a deep black project is trying to apply leverage? Pushing forward to the public (in what appears to be a hoax and is for all practical purposes).. except that there is a threat implied in its release to some other group?? Just speculating here... forgive me.. smiley

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The way I see it, if only 10% of this crap that I'm watching in these old documentaries is true.. Which is the reason why we are all so interested.. we just don't know..

Then it would stand to reason that there are black projects with advance technology just biting at the bit to come forward. There has to be a myriad of reasons for infighting within fractions of this kind of industrial complex as well.

Tech held back because of conventions.. pre-existing nepotism and contracts etc.....

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« Reply #1089 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 6:34pm »

I don't think so...although it has crossed my mind plenty of times.

Sometimes I think that this and so many supposed insider stories are really just attempts at access by those that are closer to the inside, but still out side of a locked door.

They desperately want to gain access..... so stories and releases are invented as bait to see who comes looking.

Not folks like you and me that went looking, but IC types.


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« Reply #1090 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 7:05pm »

Tomi, I just do not understand why you give this thing so much credit. rolleyes
On OMF you made a comment in the Valor thread thanking woy for explaining something you thought was intuitive to everyone but someone else. A lot of this "is" intuitively obvious that it's bogus, fake, nada, hoax and CGI.
There's no proof of deep meaning of hidden agenda's, leverage, etc.
There's no audience except for us nuts! grin grin grin grin grin
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« Reply #1091 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 7:08pm »

I don't think that is true.....

Have you read this?

http://stargate007.blogspot.com/2009/06/spy-games-disrupt-ufo-disclosure.html
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« Reply #1092 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 7:22pm »

on Jun 6th, 2009, 7:05pm, PiPi wrote:
Tomi, I just do not understand why you give this thing so much credit. rolleyes
On OMF you made a comment in the Valor thread thanking woy for explaining something you thought was intuitive to everyone but someone else.


Hmmmm.. LOL tongue
Well actually I was being tactfully gentle using the word some... Because nobody had to tell me.. how those colors got into that 45mb Jpeg I downloaded wink
And not being a gentleman, unlike Woy grin I had to mention the Dopefish.. wink
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on Jun 6th, 2009, 7:22pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Hmmmm.. LOL tongue
Well actually I was being tactfully gentle using the word some... Because nobody had to tell me.. how those colors got into that 45mb Jpeg I downloaded wink
And not being a gentleman, unlike Woy grin I had to mention the Dopefish.. wink

I'm running for cover! grin
I downloaded that thing too along with a 104MB text file of 1's and 0's! I'm still reading it. Thank god for broadband.
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« Reply #1094 on: Jun 6th, 2009, 7:41pm »

on Jun 6th, 2009, 7:08pm, murnut wrote:
I don't think that is true.....

Have you read this?

http://stargate007.blogspot.com/2009/06/spy-games-disrupt-ufo-disclosure.html


Hi Mur. smiley
I meant drone and Isaac nuts - which I guess I'm one. grin
I do not acknowledge or support exopolitics as a group, party, organization or whatever they think they are.
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