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« Reply #180 on: Feb 2nd, 2009, 8:16pm »

Since we never get answers to any of the questions because they are construed as attacks, further queries resulted in getting the answer anyway..short and sweet.
As I understood the whole exercise, DRT was tinkling up a rope as the vernacular goes.
My, 14 Apr 2008 22:18: 16 Message posted by onzeaout with l' attention of: administrator Good evening, Finally, jrouquie does not have sufficient time to concretize my project. Moreover, many technical constraints make this project difficult to realize and for a dubious exit. I keep the technical data and prefers to suspend l' implementation of my project, for the moment. Cordially
smart move, they warned him of unreliability.
If anyone likes I will post the entire sequence of conversations. It does make for interesting reading, In English too.

@Jeedyhi, great post on the Partizan thing. I just saw the movie be kind rewind..I think it was done by them too. That movie has not come out yet on the hoax out of control.
I enjoyed the quote as always, as we see here too.

Barzolff stressed the videos were not intended as a viral marketing ploy. His movie is still in the idea phase, and he created the hoax strictly as a "sociological experiment" -- in other words, just to see what would happen.

What happened far exceeded his expectations.

Barzolff called the results of his experiment "entertaining, thrilling, completely addictive, and a little scary."

The scary part, he said, was that in spite of the evidence, "many people refuse to believe it's a hoax."

That is scary, and happens time after time, like the Ummis.
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« Reply #181 on: Feb 2nd, 2009, 10:57pm »

on Feb 2nd, 2009, 07:43am, Denise wrote:
I found someone else working on telephone poles Frenchman77. I wonder if it helped the research as they don't look like anything we have on file. It's probably nothing, the pictures are from 2008. He loves California though. smiley
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@Marvin on that drone question The pI's TK Davis, at which OTF was present, TK said this was a long term project, they were in it for the long haul.
Even though night vison equipment showed triangles, orbs, night after night nothing of a drone has been seen since. The military would rather expose their triangle craft, Flying football platforms, remote control orbs, time after time, then send out one of our drones again. That was last may. They had been looking actually since Jan 2008 according to the April 2008 podcast. We are now February 2009.
Margaret Dixon, Franks wife saw "$omething" that night, bless her heart, and it made a believer out of her then But, sadly, t wasn't a drone. sad
So , I kin guarantee everyone gittin paids is a believer, whether or not they sees a drone.
http://ovnis-usa.com/SONS/KRXA-drone-20080426.mp3
Where is the money coming from? , ovnis, a housewife in UK ,, a store manager in France, I don't think would have that resource to throw away, under guise of research. I dont know if any Private UFO grants around., Bigelow was the closest..but he would need more convincing proof that than tampered photos and invisible witnesses. ..Even Linda, offering a share in her LMH productions could not, unless we go to the movie studio hypothesis, where 2 and even three year promotions are not unheard of.

@2105 ? : someone fill me in whats project 2105?
http://www.progonline.com/Programmeur-JAVA-pour-script-de-traitement-de-photographies-pr_en_attente-2105.html
Ohh..It was !!A who initiated that. well,
what happened to that analysis? If they did it it sounds like the would be rubbing positive results in our faces by now.

The proposition has been brought forth that because they are their org, and its their money, they can play with forums like they have been, and not answer questions.

Lets remember something , that they were first at OMF, then members of OMRT, and privy to information from Bren and Ivo gave them, like ips and emails and other data ,not the general forum body , as well as benefitted immensely from the ideas discussions up until the time they hit the road on their own.
Yes the public has a right to ask, especially OMF members, who by skepticism, helped them where to look and not look, and where they were going wrong, know better.

They have rights, but based on what they "culled" from OMF, here, and others, they have a clear duty to reciprocate.



Interesting! I can't help noticing how Frenchman77 rhymes with Rajman1977. I wonder if they might be related? shocked
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« Reply #182 on: Feb 2nd, 2009, 11:35pm »

Yumpin Yimminy Uncle Yosemite, I never thought of that! It does rhyme smiley
but its 2008, isn't that 11A's? and what are those funny poles and corner of house. Who's house is that? That went right by me silly me. can't be, there has to be some logical explanation.
That's peculiar, he must like Raj a lot, if it is 11A or onzeaut. Nice observation!
Let me go dig some more!
Its more fun than diggin for taters smiley


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« Reply #183 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 04:01am »

Looks really like Ovnis-USA is behind most of this, and 11A.

Look at the image on top of Ovnis-USA's website.

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On the left, you have the image of Isaac's device. On the right you have a picture of.......? Hmm, I've never seen that version of the drone before, it isn't any of the sightings that are published.... Looks like a fake to me... who created that one??

They even seem to have their own "LAP Font", and use it in very odd places, that have nothing to do with drones... but just UFO's in general.
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What really makes me curious.... is this fake document they have regarding cia ufo files:
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Remind you of Isaac's documents? I get the feeling that who ever helps write or create graphics for ovnis-usa likes to represent "secret documents" by blacking out what appears to be something important, but isnt.

Hmm I wonder who writes for ovnis-usa.... Here is some translated quotes:

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This is the team of the Drone Research Team who won the vote held on the Open Minds to designate the best website ufology research.

The highly sophisticated method which allowed to locate this site will be exposed in the future. But it is a real team that finally solved the riddle of the California drones.


Wow, I wonder who wrote that..... rolleyes Maybe someone from DRT?

Oh My.... DRT got 21 votes, out of 89. And 21 is divisible by 3, and the poll allows you to enter 3 votes each person. 3/21=7 people probably voted.... but anyway...

The above quote seems like someone is trying to put DRT on a pedestal.

"The highly sophisticated method which allowed to locate this site will be exposed in the future. "

How does the writer know it is highly sophisticated method if it hasn't been exposed yet? I think the writer must know already.... and be highly involved.

It's probably not even a highly sophisticated anything, all they probably did was write a script that makes a graph on Google, to help mark each spot they have checked. Big whoop.

"But it is a real team that finally solved the riddle of the California drones."

LOL! A real team that finally solved it huh? Guess DRT came to a conclusion already?

OVNIS-USA IS JUST AS GUILTY AS DRT OF SPREADING NONSENSE.


--btw. Im willing to bet that the drone LAP language may have some hidden "french" language in it.
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« Reply #184 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 04:13am »

on Feb 2nd, 2009, 11:35pm, Denise wrote:
and what are those funny poles and corner of house. Who's house is that?


Seems like there is a pattern of "Corners of houses":

http://droneteam.com/history/cam/
http://droneteam.com/history/tahoe/
http://droneteam.com/history/raj/


I'm almost certain a good majority of the drone witnesses are 100% fabricated like all the rest of the witnesses.


The name "CHAD" is a very common name for a foreigner to choose as an American name.. It used to be true that "Chad" was the most popular name in the USA a long time ago, and a lot of foreign movies used that name Chad when representing an American...

I think the drone hoax was created by people not from the USA.




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« Reply #185 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 05:02am »

Anyone seen this before?

http://www.ufo.se/english/articles/callen2.html

I may be willing to consider this is the method used... and not CGI. lipsrsealed

Maybe not, CGI is easyer...

Nevermind this post...

So what is Ovnis-USA? Like a French spy on the USA?
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« Reply #186 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 05:23am »

Genesis Chapter 21 Verse 1 +

Isaac Is Born

"Then the Lord took note of Sarah as He had said, and the Lord did for Sarah as He had promised. So Sarah conceived and bore a son to Abraham in his old age, at the appointed time of which God had spoken to him. And Abraham called the name of his son who was born to him, whom Sarah bore to him, Isaac."

Hmm...

Sarah and Abraham gave birth to Isaac.


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« Reply #187 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 06:41am »

on Feb 3rd, 2009, 04:13am, neveleeleven wrote:
I think the drone hoax was created by people not from the USA.


You're right! We are almost on the same page as one another. There appears to be a "French Connection" to the drones. We already have one hoaxer from France who messed with Ufology......Haiti hoaxer David Nicholas. I will be digging deeper into this.
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« Reply #188 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 09:32am »

on Feb 3rd, 2009, 06:41am, Jeddyhi wrote:
You're right! We are almost on the same page as one another. There appears to be a "French Connection" to the drones. We already have one hoaxer from France who messed with Ufology......Haiti hoaxer David Nicholas. I will be digging deeper into this.


To bad we can't get some handwritten samples to compare to the LAP wink laugh
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« Reply #189 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 10:41am »

on Feb 3rd, 2009, 06:41am, Jeddyhi wrote:
You're right! We are almost on the same page as one another. There appears to be a "French Connection" to the drones. We already have one hoaxer from France who messed with Ufology......Haiti hoaxer David Nicholas. I will be digging deeper into this.

Heh, heh, I nailed that one within a couple of days (to my satisfaction anyway!!) I was also in touch with the reporter from the LA times that ‘officially’ debunked it with the help of the creator (interview).

My video is still online here. (1st vid).

(Can’t beat a bit ‘o’ Bugsy!! laugh)

Cheers.

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These Haiti/DR videos are a complete hoax. Dr Dill has already completely illustrated why. The trees are duplicates, exact duplicates. They don't even look like real palm trees

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« Reply #190 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 11:11am »

on Feb 3rd, 2009, 09:32am, Radi wrote:
To bad we can't get some handwritten samples to compare to the LAP wink laugh

I also just found the following post I made afterwards with a little more background info…..

It also includes the video of his other (6) YouTube Hoaxed UFOs, a couple of which bear a vague, passing resemblance to the Drones.

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(For what it’s worth I think ~at least one of~ the hoaxer/s live in California but either way I don’t think this group has anything to do with it).

Cheers.

Edit to add: Second post down undecided, (I used this particular URL/keyword as I thought the first post might cheer everyone up!! wink)
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« Reply #191 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 11:48am »

Partizan does have an LA and NY branch. This story is more intricate, with the additions of the LAP, none of Partizans exploits involve accompanying materials that I am aware of.
The use of marked materials like that marked document fake can be purchased on line at a site mentioned by Sysco a long time ago. In fact even SPF33 links at his current place of employment can provide realistic government certificates as well. There is a whole industry dedicated to fakes, just as there is for making miniature racing car models, or movie miniatures.
I only Mentioned 11A aka Onzeaout for the purpose of looking at the analysis they had attempted but failed to complete with the French Prog online. DRT was looking feverishly not for the truth, but a magic bullet to kill the CGI argument.
If he were involved he would not be making those efforts I think, I could be wrong..
However I found other discussions, where after reading SQTs analysis, he was at a loss , i.e. up against the wall ,to come up with an explanation, and seemed to settle on meta-morphing craft or use of a 3d model that eventually came, but failed to bolster reality. suggested by another poster, in effect a mindset to exclude the most probable, and allow the most improbable explanation.

There are good exchanges between the people in that those of you technically inclined would understand. I think my one liner summed it up as I think the subcontractors thought. Pizzing up a rope.
I am curious though about Frenchman 77 link and pix inside, it could be nothing, just a momentary indulging in humour. I can't find when he enrolled in that account, as he has another as Onzeaout where he posted syscos maps of the PIs, numbers, sightings where they all converged.. The attempt there was to find out whether Enlightened Seeker and Sysco were one and the same.
No matter how you slice it or dice it, this keeps coming back to the most active, the most blatantly suspicious behaviour, which pixels by themselves won't show you, and that was Linda and the other pillar of the temple, Whitley.
The fact that she would not make available to the DRT even for that French study any of the remaining hi res pictures, should be a red flag by itself.
The fact they do not condemn the behaviour and still support her, tells you who is pawn, and who controls the board.

They are linked in turn and serve the apparatus that designed this scheme from beginning to end.


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« Reply #193 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 4:28pm »

on Feb 3rd, 2009, 05:23am, neveleeleven wrote:
Genesis Chapter 21 Verse 1 +

Isaac Is Born

"Then the Lord took note of Sarah as He had said, and the Lord did for Sarah as He had promised. So Sarah conceived and bore a son to Abraham in his old age, at the appointed time of which God had spoken to him. And Abraham called the name of his son who was born to him, whom Sarah bore to him, Isaac."

Hmm...

Sarah and Abraham gave birth to Isaac.





Of course you know what Isaac means… well? Do you hear “laughter?”
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« Reply #194 on: Feb 3rd, 2009, 4:36pm »

on Feb 3rd, 2009, 10:41am, DrDil wrote:
Heh, heh, I nailed that one within a couple of days (to my satisfaction anyway!!) I was also in touch with the reporter from the LA times that ‘officially’ debunked it with the help of the creator (interview).

My video is still online here. (1st vid).

(Can’t beat a bit ‘o’ Bugsy!! laugh)

Cheers.

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Ah yes... you were in good form!

A great catch and good call (and they used Vue 6).



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