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« Reply #255 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 12:53pm »

As the drone case heads more and more towards hoax, especially with the discovery of the Raj deception, beware of the DRT attempting to re-write history. Posted today at the DRT forum, Nemo declares that a drone reality was never their goal...only the truth of the matter.

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In actuality, the DRT has promoted a drone reality since the beginning. In addition to countering all hoax evidence as insuffucient and making excuses for bizarre photo witness behavior, they disallowed all talk of hoax at their own forum. Opinions are not allowed though threads hypothesizing drone propulsion are abundant. Here is the opening text to the registration page at the DRT.

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So all please be aware that as Nemo attempts to minimize damage to the DRT's reputation and rewrite the known facts differently to achieve that goal, the thousands and thousands of posts by the DRT defending the drones stand testament to their dedicated promotion of a hoax.

The opening line on the registration page says it all in one concise sentence.

"This DRT forum was created for the discussion of the reality of the drones."
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« Reply #256 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 1:55pm »

on Feb 10th, 2009, 12:53pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
As the drone case heads more and more towards hoax, especially with the discovery of the Raj deception, beware of the DRT attempting to re-write history. Posted today at the DRT forum, Nemo declares that a drone reality was never their goal...only the truth of the matter.

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In actuality, the DRT has promoted a drone reality since the beginning. In addition to countering all hoax evidence as insuffucient and making excuses for bizarre photo witness behavior, they disallowed all talk of hoax at their own forum. Opinions are not allowed though threads hypothesizing drone propulsion are abundant. Here is the opening text to the registration page at the DRT.

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So all please be aware that as Nemo attempts to minimize damage to the DRT's reputation and rewrite the known facts differently to achieve that goal, the thousands and thousands of posts by the DRT defending the drones stand testament to their dedicated promotion of a hoax.

The opening line on the registration page says it all in one concise sentence.

"This DRT forum was created for the discussion of the reality of the drones."




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I've been waiting for this to happen. rolleyes
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« Reply #257 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 2:09pm »

When one digs their self into a hole, you can either attempt to climb out, pull dirt in on yourself, or dig deeper. What you can't do is pretend the hole and the dirt just isn't there.

DRT= Drone Research Reality Team!
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« Reply #258 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 2:27pm »

Great stuff guys, I think the world, except them, is keenly aware of that, And darn right they are going to try to weasel out of known history.
But I think the motives behind the position, which moved past hoax before the Raj deception, is what "tickles my fancy"{oops, tee hee " grin}
As I mentioned in my last post on the oddness of such a professional like SPF33, not in playing a "Devils advocate", but incident after incident maintaining same profile reversing and re re versing position with that focused Prove real or nothing stance.

Why we need only go back to the beginning the very day after he joined OMF , May 23, 2007, while Numbers hit UCB same day, two days after OTF may 21, and two days before tomi, May 25, , and of course thats only 4 days before creation, of [b]OVNIS_USA , May 27, 2007., and entrance 11A /Frenchman77 May 30, 2007,[/b] and saw the similarities to pre existing man made scripts, the hodgepodge of letters, from different sources a poster said

I am still of the general opinion that this is most likely a fictional language invented by those who may have engineered these images.
But oh nooooo..our little Devils advocate was right there johnny on the spot, as with Raj account, and the Lex and the LMH access, to say..
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i don't know if the fact that all these alphabets sharing traits with the object's symbology is a checkmark in the hoax column or in the real column!

...that's not to say i believe these images to be real. i feel like i have to constantly be saying that.

http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=2018&page=30
I am sure he feels that way as he was told feel that way and probably paid to ride shotgun on this affair. I'd like to see what everybody in his own group like that youworkforthem thinks about those photos. Would they "Feel the same way?
I don't think so..not even from the get go..

If this find the truth position is "honest", then he and Nemo and the rest of the Drone gang, should "feel" very free now, to admit, but also release the rest of the facts and information requested and outstanding on Raj for the last 2 months.. Then and only then will posterity ( and us) be a little kinder..
Even their own membership are wondering about the delay, being no less curious and inquisitive than we.
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« Reply #259 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 3:29pm »

on Feb 10th, 2009, 2:27pm, Denise wrote:


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« Reply #260 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 3:56pm »

Oh, let me stop by, every once in a while
to browse the tale, and read for a smile,

and let me remind you, as i did wayyyyy back when,
yes, let me remind you, again and again,

it just doesn't matter if the photos are real
or a hoax or both, they're not the big deal:

the BIG DEAL is Issac, and the evidence he had
this was a fishing expedition, so true and so sad.

The photos were bait, just to flush Isaac out,
and that's all the "drone thing" is really about.

Now that Isaac's reeled in, not a word nor a whimper,
not an additional sighting or an additional picture.

People's memories fade, attention swings to and fro,
soon this will just be a legend from a "once long ago".

Maybe somewhere sometime, the truth will come out,
and when you see the technology you'll stand up and shout:

"Hey, that things a Drone and I've seen it before!!!"
and your grandkids will say, "Granpa, don't be a bore.."
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« Reply #261 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 4:57pm »

on Feb 10th, 2009, 3:29pm, spf33 wrote:
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Yeah , that got a rise out of you's didn't it.! I agree, thats about the extent your case went SPF33, You helped promote a fraud. The others are polite. I'm not so polite mon ami. I'll remember to drop that message by at your hangouts! Who said you can't put a bottle of suncreen to other good uses!
Have a great day!

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« Reply #262 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 4:58pm »

Kenray,

Sorry, but your poem is pretty crappy.

ISAAC DOES NOT EXIST.

This was not a "fishing expedition", it was a straight hoax to get some traffic to websites.

If "anti-gravity" ever is released, trust me, it has NOTHING to do with the drones.

You people are acting like the drones are the first ever hoax about anti-gravity, and secret technology.

Get a clue people, seriously.
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« Reply #263 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 5:13pm »

Oh jeez, Denise, see what you done? Now we get another round of damage control. And guess who has just been put in for The Researcher Who Asks No Questions, Takes No Notes, and Provides No Information? It's the Professional CGI Artist Who Can't Decide What He Thinks! shocked

I can't figure out why all those DRT types are still wasting time on this nonsense when there is a whole "movement" of kindred spirits in the Exopolitics circus ready to push any story (from any source, real or imagined) that suits their agenda. Seems far more interesting for the deluded than propping up the rotting corpse of a dead hoax. Sure is hard to figure...
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« Reply #264 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 5:23pm »

on Feb 10th, 2009, 3:56pm, Kenray wrote:
Oh, let me stop by, every once in a while
to browse the tale, and read for a smile,

and let me remind you, as i did wayyyyy back when,
yes, let me remind you, again and again,

it just doesn't matter if the photos are real
or a hoax or both, they're not the big deal:

the BIG DEAL is Issac, and the evidence he had
this was a fishing expedition, so true and so sad.

The photos were bait, just to flush Isaac out,
and that's all the "drone thing" is really about.

Now that Isaac's reeled in, not a word nor a whimper,
not an additional sighting or an additional picture.

People's memories fade, attention swings to and fro,
soon this will just be a legend from a "once long ago".

Maybe somewhere sometime, the truth will come out,
and when you see the technology you'll stand up and shout:

"Hey, that things a Drone and I've seen it before!!!"
and your grandkids will say, "Granpa, don't be a bore.."




Ken,

I would agree with you, but the arrogance of Isaac claiming he cannot be caught… this was a tip that he did not work in the environment he claimed to have worked in. Isn’t the Isaac website owned by a lawyer? Maybe he changed jobs and pursued law. Or maybe he isn’t so worried about being discovered by the government, via a lawyer (yet, that is another person that knows who Isaac is).

By the way, why would the government allow his site (with secrets) to still be up on the net? Any excuse could have been made to remove it (did not pay... or violated some rule).

Isaac is the least believable aspect of the whole case for me. Just my opinion.
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« Reply #265 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 5:36pm »

on Feb 10th, 2009, 3:56pm, Kenray wrote:
the BIG DEAL is Issac, and the evidence he had
this was a fishing expedition, so true and so sad.

The photos were bait, just to flush Isaac out,
and that's all the "drone thing" is really about.

Gotta disagree for the simple reason the risk is not worth the reward. Why hint and provide bits of a secret in the hopes of getting back some stolen info. The risk was Issac would spill it all and it could not be contained. Then they would look like idiots. grin
Fails my reality test not to mention all the other holes. Why let the Isaac site stay up a second longer than needed? Makes no common sense at all. rolleyes
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« Reply #266 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 6:01pm »

man works in secret lab
man steals secret
antigravity
ET
reverse technology.
from the law? he didnt break NS , its a short story for Cryin out loud..

Nev is absolutely right..what in God's name is original about that?
What planet are these people from?

As far as that story's usefulness or surviviving as a meme.
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« Reply #267 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 6:35pm »

on Feb 10th, 2009, 6:01pm, Denise wrote:
man works in secret lab
man steals secret
antigravity
ET
reverse technology

what in God's name is original about that.

A Government worker actually working! Only thing I see original and unique. grin Bad joke ... I know. embarassed
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« Reply #268 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 7:07pm »

The following was originally published in December 1970 and is an excerpt from a classic UK UFO publication titled, “Merseyside UFO Bulletin” (MUFOB) Volume 3, number 6 and was wrote by Paul Hopkins. There are one or two discrepancies as it relates to the Drones but if you bear in mind when reading it the differences between 1970 & 2009 (especially the day-to-day living, notably the internet) then I feel these are inconsequential at best.

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Of all subjects that come under the shadow of hoaxing, the UFO receives more than its fair share, which is unfortunate since it is so easy for both the public and the experts to disregard any evidence in favour of the UFO, and thus to class any number of events as due to the unquestioned activities of hoaxers.

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UFOs are very much transitory phenomena, and even more so when they appear as lights in the sky. From such sightings or claims there is little that the investigator can deduce since he has not only to consider the possibility of a hoax, but also such things as mistaken identity of common objects under peculiar circumstances, or ignorance on the part of the claimant of astronomical objects and atmospheric phenomena.

A hoaxer has little to gain from remote observations except perhaps a mention in the local rag, unless the ‘observation’ is an intricate part of a larger hoax, and the hoaxer is relying upon the cumulative effect.

The cumulative effect may operate in a number of ways according to the control the hoaxer has over his situation. Opportunists may operate immediately after a sighting elsewhere so that momentum is added to their own story; while some will rely upon others coming forward with similar stories. The subsequent influx of investigators, gullible tourists (hoping to witness an event) and the lunatic fringe then primes the locality so that a carefully planned hoax may be carried out fairly successfully, since the influx of the differing factions causes confusion to the serious investigator.

Another way in which the cumulative effect may influence a hoax is in the case of a fairly simple ‘class one’ hoax where the hoaxer, seeing that the public — at least some elements of the public — are taking him seriously, carries the hoax a little further. As long as he remains relatively undetected the hoaxing continues until the hoaxer suddenly realises that his fame has spread beyond the confines of his country, and also that some eminent persons are taking a keen interest in the whole affair.

The hoaxer is now faced with a dilemma. He must either admit to his wickedness and be castigated through the press, or maintain a front until the whole issue dies away. If we consider the Adamski saga in this context, as a man trapped by his own hoax, then the peculiarities of the story are self explanatory.

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Which brings us to two points.

Firstly a hoaxer most probably has antisocial tendencies. This would explain why so many saucer contactees want to kick, modern science and society in the teeth. They want to be considered apart from the herd, as selected beings often guided by superior intellects from above. Like so many restless ’students’ they want to give convention a jolt; to have reporters and camera men rushing about on a wild goose chase while they themselves sit back enthralled by their powers of disturbance, while their egos swell.

Secondly the hoaxer of a large hoax runs the real risk of being sued or prosecuted.
Thus he is often forced to remain anonymous.

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My reason for posting the above was not to highlight the major differences between then and now even though they number many and I suspect are unfathomable or incomprehensible without experiencing the monumental changes yourself, not just the tangible, noticeable differences such as aesthetics, progressive technological advances and the ease of daily living which we take for granted, but more importantly the cultural and sociological influences were obviously massively different and would naturally influence the collective perception differently and yet…..

It appears the basic ‘Modus Operandi’ of the hoaxer remains remarkably similar, well I found the striking similarities quite remarkable and especially so when considering nearly 40 years have slipped by since it was first wrote.

It seems that for all the world around us may be changing dramatically (and this change is brought about by own hand) basic human nature, instinct, drive and emotion remains somewhat stubbornly resolute.

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He that's cheated twice by the same man is an accomplice with the cheater

(Fool me twice?)

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« Reply #269 on: Feb 10th, 2009, 7:25pm »

DR..its amazing the things you do with YOUR keyboard shocked..
That antisocial analogy is particularly interesting given recent events.
Something that appeals to those groups can turn a profit.
Sony and Commodoredid it with the graffitti artists.
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I wonder..Do you think like that website YOUWORKFORTHEM that THEYWORKFORTHEM? grin
http://www.youworkforthem.com
The nice video virals, fontology sites blog won't come up on the blog now,
but you get the point.
g'nite
don't let the drone bugs bite. grin
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