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« Reply #480 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 6:27pm »

Kind of fun watching the low level dronies squirm. We can only imagine what the real perps are feeling. Will their cover be blown? Never mind the bonus, will they even keep their jobs? Oh well, they have all earned their misery.
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« Reply #481 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 8:14pm »

It was The Power!
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« Reply #482 on: Mar 3rd, 2009, 10:21pm »

on Mar 3rd, 2009, 5:02pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Even if it is a complete hoax,


It is a complete fabrication. You need to accept that so you can objectively search for the answers you seek, which, by the way, may never be found. That must be accepted by you as well.

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I want to know who and why.. the answers might even be more surprising than we imagine.. or not.. who knows? None of us!


People in hell want ice water lol. You may never get what you want. Short of begging the hoaxers to confess and walk you through the process of their hoax, just how do you feel the answers will be found? The investigation by the DRT and the PI's do not have a single thing that can lead them to the hoaxers. Not one thing. If they did, we wouldn't be here listening to you say how you want answers.

Still to this very day not one photo witness has been identified or vetted in any way. Chad, Raj, Stephen, Ty, Tahoe housewife, Isaac.....they could all be one individual. Or they could be separate, who knows? Not the DRT, not the PI's,....no one knows.

The DRT and TKDavis Investigations will not be able to google earth the hoaxer(s). Passing out flyers and asking for help is what it has come down to. And that avenue opens up the doors to people who could be secondary hoaxers ( "hey, lets tell these people we know about the drones, or that we hoaxed it or something. Lets mess with them!").

Want your answers in one hand, Tomi, and spit in the other.....see which hand fills up first. While your wanting to have this all laid out for you, can you get the answers to the John Titor hoax as well? That one still bugs me. grin
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« Reply #483 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 08:01am »

Well said Jeddyhi, I don't think anyone else can make it clearer than that.
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« Reply #484 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 08:18am »

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« Reply #485 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 09:15am »

Admirable, Tomi. Perserverance is a good quaility. But the reality of the situation is that answers may not be forthcoming, no matter how much perservance one has.

As long as the hoaxers remain anonymous and uncooperative, the answers you seek will never be answered.

Is it not enough to know that anonymous, deceitful individuals perpetrated a hoax on Ufology? That false locations and testimony were submitted to the online Ufo community? That no reports were filed with local police departments because of the false nature of the sightings? That none of the photo witnesses have ever been identified or vetted.

What course of action can anyone take to even have a chance at finding the answers you seek? I feel bad for you but at the same time, I wish you luck in your quest.
I guess I just do not care enough about the hoax to need to know the who and why and the how. I take comfort in knowing that I was able to identify the hoax as a scam from early on.

Always remember that any sighting claim rises or falls on the quality of the reporting witnesses. Anonymous claims are always the most suspicious......as most hoaxers prefer anonymity.

I would rather be skeptical and found to be wrong than allow gullibility on my part to strengthen a possible hoax.

Best wishes to you in your quest for answers.
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #486 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 11:40am »

on Mar 4th, 2009, 08:18am, tomi01uk wrote:
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Tomi,

Can you elaborate or give us some insight as to why you believe you should never give up?

Assuming you are not apart of the hoax, what is there about the case that makes you keep it alive?

I sincerely hope you do not misunderstand the question… but with all due respect, it strikes at the heart as to why the drone case still “drags” on… and I really want to understand what is left to the case that motivates you (or anyone on the DRT) to believe there is still a chance (although it is admitted to be a rapidly shrinking chance) that any reality may be involved by “anonymous people” who have mislead you every step of the way?

It seems that the “research team” has no defined goals or benchmarks to know when the task is complete (if you "do not know" or do not define what you are looking for, how do you know when you find it?). What is the point of the DRT trying to "pump life" into the case and keep this thing alive?

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« Reply #487 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 1:11pm »

Marvin, I think it is a case of everyone sees the same tree differently. Those of us who want to know the who, what and why of this matter see a quality in the elements of the material provided that others may discount.

Granted the witnesses lend less credibility now than they do intrigue.. the whole matter is intrigue. IMO smiley

That is the reason for me at least. I can't speak for anyone else.
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« Reply #488 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 1:32pm »

So your calling it a Hoax, bout time,

Kinda like saying thank you after you've been raped.
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« Reply #489 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 1:33pm »

You see a quality in the hoaxed material that inspires you to want to know who designed it?

Regardless of how you answer that question, the fact remains (and you refuse to address it) that there is no way to get the answers you seek without the hoaxers confessing and explaining their hoax. There is no lead, no evidence, not one iota of anything to suggest who the hoaxers are. Who is raj? Who is Chad? Who are any of them? Just how do you think the investigation should proceed? Are you or the DRT waiting for more anonymous sources to spring forth with more unveriable diatribe? With all due respect, I find that scenario a little embarrassing. The gullibilty factor being portrayed at the DRT is not representative of most of Ufology.
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« Reply #490 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 1:36pm »

Marvin, I think it is a case of everyone sees the same tree differently

What a crock!
everyone? how about just you, how is your's different? what Intrigue, he asked you a question and you are so friggin dishonest won't answer. incredible. Then you don't belong here, we are seekers, not looking for intrigue. Join an Agatha kristie club, or anARSgyou don't care at all about the truth, you dont care about hoax, thats irrelevant. all you want is intrigue to generate buzz, you're not mentally ill you are exactly like a hoaxer you fake..,,Thats why the mp3 past 200, You are incapable of answering a question straight because you and the others are covering your a$$es. It was on the money!!
You think we are posting everything we know.here on THIS thread or ATS?, think again, its going straight to pre arrangments that will give it maximum impact and exposure..and yes generate lots of "Buzz" For free.
This is a thread about getting answers not your kind of intrigue . You with this nonsense, don't belong on it. Follow the Italian UFO..lots of intrigue.
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You've been TooK!

You been Had!

and You're not Takin us!

Its a Pathetic Clown act you answering honest people like that.



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« Reply #491 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 2:10pm »

“The gullibilty factor being portrayed at the DRT is not representative of most of Ufology.”

Well as discouraging as this might sound, I don’t know anymore who can speak for or represent “ufology”. But if you go to the MUFON board, an organization that purportedly seeks the truth you’ll find that the board is nothing but tomi/s willing to believe a spot of ketchup on the floor at Mc Donald’s is a UFO in disguise. Here, this board sponsored by an out fit that stresses truth and scientific endeavor to present factual information from fantasy, harbors and promotes and encourages a board full of tomi/s, and now these types are becoming field investigators, leaves me with a very bad feeling. These types tend to gravatate to these boards; people who need to believe and as more join and infiltrate the organization no rational, logical, or scientific endeavor will persist. It will just be a facade with a few tantalizing TV shows to keep the rational side donating but otherwise its all just a crock for money. As long as the tomi/s dominate these boards and infiltrate these organizations we might as well resolve our selves to a TIN FOIL existence as far as “UFOLOGY” is concerned.
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on Mar 4th, 2009, 2:10pm, Gort wrote:
As long as the tomi/s dominate these boards and infiltrate these organizations we might as well resolve our selves to a TIN FOIL existence as far as “UFOLOGY” is concerned.


You sound like a genius.. got it all figured out don't you.
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Sys, just don't embarass yourself with too much fantasy, like that recording of me and numbers collaborating.. where these concepts come from makes me scared of your rationality... actually.. tongue
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« Reply #493 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 2:34pm »

on Mar 4th, 2009, 2:10pm, Gort wrote:
“The gullibilty factor being portrayed at the DRT is not representative of most of Ufology.”

Well as discouraging as this might sound, I don’t know anymore who can speak for or represent “ufology”. But if you go to the MUFON board, an organization that purportedly seeks the truth you’ll find that the board is nothing but tomi/s willing to believe a spot of ketchup on the floor at Mc Donald’s is a UFO in disguise. Here, this board sponsored by an out fit that stresses truth and scientific endeavor to present factual information from fantasy, harbors and promotes and encourages a board full of tomi/s, and now these types are becoming field investigators, leaves me with a very bad feeling. These types tend to gravatate to these boards; people who need to believe and as more join and infiltrate the organization no rational, logical, or scientific endeavor will persist. It will just be a facade with a few tantalizing TV shows to keep the rational side donating but otherwise its all just a crock for money. As long as the tomi/s dominate these boards and infiltrate these organizations we might as well resolve our selves to a TIN FOIL existence as far as “UFOLOGY” is concerned.



Perhaps I should re-phrase, Gort, because you do have a valid point, as depressing as it may be! Thank you for correcting my oversight.

The gullibility factor being portrayed at the DRT IS representative of a type of ufologist that fails to objectively analyze evidence and views skepticism as a bad thing. These individuals, with their willingness to believe despite the quality of the evidence, are what allows hoaxers to be successful.
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« Reply #494 on: Mar 4th, 2009, 2:35pm »

on Mar 4th, 2009, 2:25pm, tomi01uk wrote:
You sound like a genius.. got it all figured out don't you.
rolleyes



Not quite I still think the drones could be real, maybe sorta kinda.

O hell they should just pay me too and I'll believe.
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