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« Reply #660 on: Apr 15th, 2009, 2:14pm »

on Apr 15th, 2009, 10:54am, Ruud wrote:
I can tell you we were camping at camping de Watersnip near Petten. Went fishing in the afternoon I still remember that because my parents also were at the camping and they made dinner. Around the camping there is a small canal. I just flip through some bushes and I am near that water. It is not to the direction of the beach. It is in the opposite direction. May be you can find a siren in that direction (on google earth).
It is very good possible that the time of the camera was not correct. I made the pics defenitly in the afternoon that is for sure. The date is important for me, the time on the camera is for me not so interesting may be it was summertime or something like that. You have to believe me for that, it was between 1 o'clock and 5 o'clock. And I guessed it was round 1.30. That is I believe also what I wrote in my mail. Next time I see an object I will first set the time correct and then I will take pictures.
What about the wind. There was where we were fishing no wind. I can say that because I hate fishing in the wind. Small waves are irritating, possible that there was little bit wind at the open field. But it can't have been very much. We ate outside so it wasn't cold either.
Neveleeleven, I looked through my camera using my chair to create a steady image. At such a distand even the smallest movement makes rare image. That is why I took several shots. Hoping there was something I could see.
If there are any questions I will be glad to answer them.
Just don't get personal. It is now almost 6 o'clock and dinner is ready smiley.

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Hello Ruud,

Have patients, the motley crew here can be a rowdy bunch.

Can you tell me about how long you took to take the photos (the time between the first photo and the last)?

Do you recall your movements when you took the photos (did you stay in one place or move around a lot)?

I have found a second object in the photos (when I used edge detection), do you recall seeing any other objects?

Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #661 on: Apr 15th, 2009, 2:24pm »

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« Reply #662 on: Apr 15th, 2009, 5:37pm »

After a good night's sleep, and seeing Ruud's cooperation, I think I have come to the conclusion that he took some pictures of a "Waldof Box Kite".

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&q=waldof%20box%20kite&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Not sure if it is "Waldorf" or "Waldof". Just Google it..

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..P.S.. I apologize, and my words taste pretty good.

Just in case you are wondering (DRT), calling someone out and then waiting for their reaction is a form of interrogation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrogation

"Interrogation is accusatory in nature, and the suspect is told that they committed the offense, and presented with facts to obtain a confession."

..thanks and have a nice day.
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« Reply #663 on: Apr 15th, 2009, 6:24pm »

on Apr 15th, 2009, 11:10am, Kenray wrote:
RUUD: Don't get upset. There's co-intel pro in here and that's exactly what they get paid to do (and I hope it is a miserably small amount).
Best - Kenray


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Kenray, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but you are living in what is called an internet induced psychosis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis

This is my hobby and I don't get paid for it. I wish I did. I do not work for the government or any intelligence agency. I work for myself, to obtain skills that can only come from experience.
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« Reply #664 on: Apr 15th, 2009, 6:31pm »

I will add some comments here that I think need to be said.

When I first was contacted by Ruud, he made no claims whatsover, the terms UFO or drone were never used. He and I never discussed nor even mentioned either of the two. I never asked him about the drones. It was I who first used the phrase, "drone-like " simply because that was the first thing that came to mind. What should I have called it?

Ruud originally sent me one photograph, told me about how the took the pictures, and simply asked me if I knew what it was. He did not even mention to me, nor ask me to post the photograph. I don't know if he even expected that it would be put on the Casebook.

After I took a good look at the photo, I thought it was interesting, and asked him if he would send me some more, and he responded by sending two more.

The only think he asked me was "Do you have any idea what that thing might be?" I told him I did not, but that we would work on finding out.

I knew as soon as the photos were posted on the Casebook, that I would get swamped with email, and I did. About 75%, (an estimate), has run positive.

I do not know what it is, and I have never said what it is, and neither has Ruud. I am sure that if he knew he was going to be run through the mud, he would probably just kept them to himself. I was reluctant myself, but felt they should be posted for all to see.

It is ashamed that the Petten photos are grouped with the drones of 2007. They, as far as I know, have no relation to them, but there is a physical resemblance.

Personally, I can say that I believe that Ruud's photographs are real photographs. Frankly, I don't give a damn what anyone else says. If I did, I would have quit this business years ago.

I receive about 50 photographs a week to look at, and I can pretty much tell a hoax when I see one, but when I do, I don't run down the person who sent the photo. I just don't post it, but sometimes, I am not sure what a specific object might be.

If I only post what "I" think are real, then I am the only person who will ever see certain photos.

I stand behind Ruud, and I'm not looking to discredit him. He came to me in good faith, and things just got out of hand. I hope this doesn't turn him completely away from the study of UFOs.

Hang in there Ruud...

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« Reply #665 on: Apr 15th, 2009, 6:44pm »

Thank you for the clarification. As always, context is important. When someone sends a photo to the webmaster at a site with a name like UFO Casebook, I think it is reasonable to expect certain things. When the webmaster puts it in the "drone" category, then he, too, should have a good idea of what to expect. Did Ruud mention how he chose you? Just curious, since like a lot of other aspects of this episode, it appears to follow an established pattern.
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« Reply #666 on: Apr 17th, 2009, 6:06pm »

LMH quote:

"THAT WAS APPARENTLY PROVOKED BY SOME CALCULATED MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN BY PEOPLE UNKNOWN IN 2007 TRYING TO PAINT THE PHOTOS THAT EMERGED AS BEING HOAXED. ANYONE WHO CALLS YOU A LIAR HAS BEEN INFLUENCED BY THAT MISINFORMATION."

You see how it works ladies and gents? If it wasn't for me and my mysterious ways, LMH wouldn't have made this comment that reveals her personal thoughts on the drone hoax, involuntarily, by remote "control".

If she thinks there was a "calculated misinformation campaign", this must mean she still thinks the drones are real. It also means she thinks there is a cover up of some sort. hahahahaha

That also means LMH doesn't know anything about the drone hoax, and is just extremely gullible.

I'm sure this above quote from LMH also explains several other thoughts of hers... Like, she must still think all the CGI analysis are wrong, etc.

So crazy is the butteryfly effect.

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« Reply #667 on: Apr 17th, 2009, 7:08pm »

One of the symptoms of certain paranoid schizophrenia when they escalate is, that they will not let you get physically close to them, or too far, or they will go berserk and attack you.. Maintaining any intelligent reality based talk is almost nill at that stage.. I see she trusts no one, was surprised People at OMF got along with Angie. Blamed some there, prob the same here for unfairly being hostile in her not releasing pix. Alluded to hate mail. As a private person, she has every right not to answer questions, but when you are in a public medium, you have a corresponding duty, imo, to answer.
That's always amused me about those who assert rights, yet forget about the duty part.
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« Reply #668 on: Apr 17th, 2009, 7:17pm »

on Apr 17th, 2009, 6:06pm, neveleeleven wrote:
You see how it works ladies and gents? If it wasn't for me and my mysterious ways, LMH wouldn't have made this comment that reveals her personal thoughts on the drone hoax, involuntarily, by remote "control".



This is getting interesting! A bit confusing but interesting. cool
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« Reply #669 on: Apr 17th, 2009, 7:34pm »

That is an excellent observation Nev.
First Ken Ray calling us Disinfo, and now her with Misinfo. One would think she would do us all a grand favor by correcting this mis statements, for the record.. cool

Remember we are at anniversary of this nonsense, and they have no credible material, that can fly by us undetected.
We are not going away anywhere!
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« Reply #670 on: Apr 17th, 2009, 7:38pm »

I have to admit I am glad business is picking up. I don't know about you guys, but all I got for my efforts last month was two frozen chickens and several more pounds of that damned cheese. It's painfully obvious this new administration does not put much value on keeping things secret. Hell, I can't even get the vice president on the phone now, even if I have something important.

Seriously, I doubt if there has been any real effort on the part of the disinfo creeps directed at LMH for years now, since she is doing their work voluntarily. When it comes to getting the truth out to the masses, she is now doing far more harm than good.
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« Reply #671 on: Apr 17th, 2009, 7:47pm »

hahahaha that was funny Admiral.....Being mad and laughing is a strange experience!!!

Illuv good stories, and as much as I thought about warners involvent with this, I actually liked the terminator series. That last episode was awsome, like reading a great sci fi novel. They put their best writers on that one. Where you can support it please do..I see the flicks on Hulu.com pretty kewl setup.
See Josh? we don't mind a good flick, do mind the BS though.
Terminator 10.5 about to come out in May too.cheesy
I found about 17 2012 flicks that have come out in last few years including the ones still in process. Geez.

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« Reply #672 on: Apr 20th, 2009, 08:03am »

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on Apr 19th, 2009, 7:10pm, Katterfelto wrote:
And so it goes. rolleyes A harmless little ditty.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=148445576&blogId=479603410
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« Reply #673 on: Apr 20th, 2009, 08:03am »

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on Apr 19th, 2009, 11:42pm, Quincy wrote:
The Chad Redux by Dr.Dil and WildAlf aka Sidd/Reader
have hit over 1100 views, and spreading into Russia.
Truth is its own viral it seems
For those unfamilar its located on the link on my signature Chad Speaks. Feel free to visit, and the many other good sites listed below as well, particularly Dronehoax.com and Ufo-Blog.com, that summarize The entire Drone Drama .
For those seeking humour, you will find much in the story, for sure.
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on Apr 20th, 2009, 12:33am, Double Nought Spy wrote:
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"All you non-Einsteins are so predictable! Now pay attention, because believe it or not, I get tired of repeating myself. The drones can disguise themselves as kites! Get it? It's not a difficult concept, at least for us geniuses. The drones can make themselves look like grain silos, or helicopters, or dandelion seeds. Next time you see a kite, or the 4:45 from Indianapolis, or a toy balloon floating over your heads, remember: It's probably a drone! That strange car parked in front of your neighbor's house? Drone! Unusual looking cloud in an otherwise clear sky? That's a drone. Don't see anything unusual at all? Drone with well tuned cloaking system! Duh."

on Apr 20th, 2009, 12:42am, Quincy wrote:
Between Him and Linda, and his holiness Whitley, they are on a holy mission to save the Dutch from themselves.
Yes move over Fying Dutchman and make Room for "
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on Apr 20th, 2009, 12:51am, Double Nought Spy wrote:
And of course that leads us directly to:

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on Apr 20th, 2009, 01:12am, Quincy wrote:
His Holy Emminence..
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Any Blaspheming against the Sacred Drones and defiling Crop Circles, considered Holy ground, are guilty of offense that will result in immediate excommunication from the Church

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I Told you this would happen. That's one one guy you don't wanna messa around with. Excommunication, means you are xxxxed in the eyes of the church, and when you die, you can't even be buried underneath a Walmarts' parking lot.
However, to get back in the good graces of his holiness may I suggest everyone with doubt in their heart, buy his book, Beyond Communion, where you will find the way to make peace with God and the Et's., who are one step above men and saints, and one below the Angels. It's getting crowded up there ..soo..please my friends recant all these facts you find, they are the devils work. We don't wanna go there.

Yours in peace
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PS No refunds if you don't make it up there., or if you by some miracle do, the only available job you might get is cleaning brass harps. So repent now. Add ten Hail Lindas to that.
Salud

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Don't forget these guys. They come with their own font set. grin
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