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« Reply #825 on: May 12th, 2009, 9:13pm »

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« Reply #826 on: May 12th, 2009, 9:38pm »

on May 12th, 2009, 7:14pm, Ms. Weaver wrote:
Hi Double ! Bingo! HoldemTexas Poker! hahaha maybe that hack was a cue. All bets are off! hahahah!

I started thinking about that beautiful poker player from the Netherlands, DarkRose while eating a DAK ham sandwhich. Then Denmark popped up in my head. And it dawned on me That Dr VonShtern started his magazine about same time as Lev September/october..I tried seeing where else he was referenced by posts or article , and there seemed to be nothing or even mention of him. Only afterwards the event, Of course Robert Heinlein, rip, wrote a novel Vonstern zu stern or something like that.
When the Mag went, There was his droneacademy he shared with other blogs , run by a Neo, hmmm, and Wolf, but they seemed to go nowhere..just occupy space..
Isn't that odd..for a Dr?
He had an Institute for peace..he said. but I couldn't find it...(sounded like that Lost show..hahaha) but that went nowhere too..
But I find this peculiar.
The only place I saw mentioning a Von Stern was in..Oregon. Weird isn't it?
Does Von Stern know Atto?, I never saw them speak..I will speak to atto, who hasn't contacted me in a while .He's in Oregon.
Maybe we can help the good Doctor increase his fan base for his good works and shower him with the attention he so richly deserves.smiley


Before being sidetracked, we left off here.
Anyone have any further info or ideas, I proceed this ave..Perhaps he reads and can answer..There was something about the conforums..I have to go back and get it.
that will be in the morrow however.
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« Reply #827 on: May 12th, 2009, 9:53pm »

on May 12th, 2009, 9:13pm, masker33 wrote:
Where is ROD-S when you need him?


Why don't you come home?
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« Reply #828 on: May 12th, 2009, 10:00pm »

That was New Years Eve when Doktor VonHuffenpuff stormed out of here. I recall it well because it occurred to me at the time that I shirley could have thought of a few million better ways to spend the early part of the evening. But he was just so durned funny! Anyway, at the height of his foaming rant, he listed his "credentials" as a doktor. I wish I had saved them, because he either edited the message they were in, or deleted the whole thing before he left. Any possibility of dredging that up?

Here is some more of that fawning gullibility (or is it something more sinister?) that seems to follow a pattern. This time it's from our mysterious Doktor.

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I just want to throw in some sense:

The drones are real!

Isaac noticed the link from the photo's that it was what he's been working on...in the 80'th.

Either we believe him, judging that this is what is at hand here, or we dismiss HE's credability?

Do we have a case, really, if it wasn't for his revelations?

Any new sightings will be in that relief, looking for similarities, according to the evidence Isaac provided.

I believe that if he didn't see the link, or if he never told us what HE knew about this, we would't be the wiser.

It'll be arrogant to disprove Isaac at this stage, regardless what moderators tell you.

No one has proved to this date, that he is wrong.

Therefore, my point - we have to work on the link he wanted us to work on...

To gather all possible intelligence, theories and speculations...and not just dismiss the fact, that we actually have been given the fact, that HE saw, what was what HE knew for a fact!!

Just my humble opinion,

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« Reply #829 on: May 12th, 2009, 10:44pm »

So now Admiral, are you saying that Von Stern is involved in the hoax or just carried away by it. Please clarify for a novice. I do remember going to his site and seeing a special piece of (dare I say) of art of the Drone prepared especially for Von Stern or so it said. I will not mention who prepared it. Interesting. May I be forgiven by the Big Beaver, but I did stay within the general theme of your post that is Von Stern the Sinister.

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« Reply #830 on: May 12th, 2009, 11:07pm »

Thanx Admiral, I found where he calls Titles himself Professor Emeritus, from what school I don't know. Does not say.


http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=drone&num=1223123924&action=display&start=440

What are you, really! Show me some credentials...other than Dr. Blabbermouth...

Have a REAL nice 2009, as I will be on your back, just as you have been on mine in 2008,,,

Professor Emiritus DR. Erik von Stern
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=drone&num=1223123924&action=display&start=680
Are you talking to me? Do you really want a piece of this,? cheesy
Well First I'm a Librarian
and one heck of a nice guy cheesy

2009 came and I'm still here EV, and Im on all of you "like white on Rice"


I'm separating I hope the suckers from the hoaxers..
Mask thats all Interesting on sinister! nice.
G'day


On that same thread Admiral, I think we missed an opportunity. Its still there..l. I'll Email the relevant portions. Nev too and rest of crew.
Cheers..



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« Reply #831 on: May 12th, 2009, 11:22pm »

Admiral, I don't believe you will find that Von Stern is involved in any hoaxing. He seems to be more of a hanger on like so many others. He also is volatile and has exploded on numerous occasions about his belief in the validity of the Drones. I don't believe he would have the imagination to contribute to a hoax of this complexity. The one who would is of course Kris. This has always been avoided as a subject of investigation. I look forward to your opinion as we pursue and bring to a close the Drone Hoax.
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« Reply #832 on: May 12th, 2009, 11:35pm »

We try to leave no stone unturned..There are quite a few that still harbor a curiousity about him. But it takes more than a hunch. Many backdoors and trap doors , like dummy sites..were setup since 2006 and were formulated and planned in writing, before fox signed the contract in August 2006 with warners.
A good burglar looks not for an entry first, but his exit before engaging a premises. There was more than one burglar. It was a team.
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« Reply #833 on: May 12th, 2009, 11:53pm »

We certainly have not avoided looking at Kris as a possible hoax team member. What we have found in the way of questionable activity has been pretty thin. In spite of what the believers like to croak, we don't just throw out accusations to see what happens. It's a bit more subtle than that. wink

I think you should change your screen name to Chameleon. It's easy. Then you don't have to go to all the trouble to make another account. A "novice" who makes statements like, "This has always been avoided as a subject of investigation," is not *ahem* very convincing. But hey, as long as you are willing to be reasonable, I am willing to overlook a few odd quirks. You guys always end up telling us something you would rather we didn't figure out, anyway.
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« Reply #834 on: May 13th, 2009, 12:34am »

on May 12th, 2009, 11:07pm, Ms. Weaver wrote:
Thanx Admiral, I found where he calls Titles himself Professor Emeritus, from what school I don't know. Does not say.


http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=drone&num=1223123924&action=display&start=440

What are you, really! Show me some credentials...other than Dr. Blabbermouth...

Have a REAL nice 2009, as I will be on your back, just as you have been on mine in 2008,,,

Professor Emiritus DR. Erik von Stern
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=drone&num=1223123924&action=display&start=680
Are you talking to me? Do you really want a piece of this,? cheesy
Well First I'm a Librarian
and one heck of a nice guy cheesy

2009 came and I'm still here EV, and Im on all of you "like white on Rice"


I'm separating I hope the suckers from the hoaxers..
Mask thats all Interesting on sinister! nice.
G'day


On that same thread Admiral, I think we missed an opportunity. Its still there..l. I'll Email the relevant portions. Nev too and rest of crew.
Cheers..





Looks like we should have done more digging into the Doc von Stern moniker while it was still online. I never considered him very interesting, and iirc most of the ARC just thought he was another random goofball. In the middle of his New Years Eve tantrum, he posted a list of institutions and degrees. That's pretty weird, in light of his identity being phony. I've met some pretty whacked eggheads in my time, and so I paid little attention to the question of who or what he was. He or maybe one of the mods deleted quite a bit of his stuff in that mess, and that left a few of my comments lacking context, so I ditched a couple of mine myself.

"Our" 33 suddenly shifting gears and trying to write Dr.VS off as just some nut has piqued my curiosity. Why am I reminded of those would-be bank robbers who write their demands on personalized deposit slips? If VonStern is another sock puppet invented just to enhance "Isaac's" credibility, then that's pretty creepy. And so bloody Hollywood!
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« Reply #835 on: May 13th, 2009, 02:37am »

Hi all,

For what itís worth I donít believe VS was a fake.

Masker is entitled to his opinion as we all are, I donít agree that the thread/s should be closed but thereís no reason to give him/her/them a hard time.

Masker, OTF & SPF probably did the best size measurements back in the day, whether the Drones are hoaxed or not their creators tried to give the illusion of size and it appeared that the size increased along with the complexity of the Drones and witness accounts. (I.e. Tahoe to Big Basin). This also seemed to be corroborated by the witness accounts.

The DRT forum has some excellent information on possible size using known measurements of visible landmarks, perhaps they can give you a more definitive answer as to the possible size as unfortunately itís not a subject that I dedicated much of my time to as I believe they were CG objects.

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« Reply #836 on: May 13th, 2009, 02:54am »

Thanx Doc, I agree, CG is good, one size fits all cheesy
I wonder what HPO did with his models, a few people were seriously interested in purchasing a copy for themselves. He seemed so game. I wonder what stopped him shocked
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« Reply #837 on: May 13th, 2009, 12:19pm »

The size estimates seemed by some to say as we said here already..disagreement..some say 40 or so Douglas said based on his Rare book collection in his library, Space Saucer as a reference citing a witness report of 120 ft.a floating lab he callled it.
http://droneteam.com/drt/index.php?topic=20.15
I thought knowhow had the most insightful view, consistent with SQT , and it had to do with the boom factor.
Kris stated according to Eleven..that rotation ion angle might cause an illusion of shrinkage..But Knowhow states pretty convincingly
elevenaugust
I don't believe there is any possible rotation angle which can cause the inner portion of the boom to stay the same length and still allow the outer segment to expand 30% or whatever it is unless somebody stretched one picture which could be done. The rotation about the boom center axis has no impact on length measurements. If the one picture were dipped to make the overall boom shorter or longer, then the inner units would also be the same percentage shorter or longer. Note that the slight difference is the opposite way in the upper and lower boom middle segment and inner segment. It appears at least similar in the onthefence top two pictures.

Of course..no further discussion after that to explain that nasty little detail. instead.... it went on to the easier more 3 or so posts with grandiose and widely diverging guesstimates described already here.
But this is ancient history , and The request came from an admitted member who states also he doesn't care about them anymore., or words to that effect.
The same person going to other threads sniping at our efforts here, and demanding we and even the UFO hunters should be closed
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This SHOW reminds me of the Drone Thread, it does not need another season.

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I think I will pass on this, but I do have a nice work of the breaking of a beaver dam. It would not be appreciated

There is the slightest hint in some religious works and in research on certain Dinosaurs that a reptilian race of intelligence could be possible. In fact a well known NAME is a Biblical Reptile, but I do not dare go there. The Beav would show up.

Of course we know Josh and his crew fascinated with Bible figures too, Isaac, Abraham, Sarah, I'm sure Lev would love to go There

But of course we are a gentle and kind race of sentient beings here
We've been around a long tong for many reasons, one of them being we have our limits too.




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« Reply #838 on: May 13th, 2009, 1:30pm »

The most plausible estimates of drone size I have encountered are that the BB Thing is about the size of a Thalian battle cruiser, without the Hycomatic conversion. That is very similar to the comparison of the BB Thing to a Klingon Bird of Prey, but of course that depends on which series or movie one prefers. To me, the Chad/Raj device looks a little bigger than a Pigasus, or about four feet wide.

This "question" is obviously a none-too-well-prepared portion of red herring in sauce ŗ canard. Let the shill have his fun elsewhere, we have stuff to do.
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« Reply #839 on: May 13th, 2009, 4:11pm »

Hollywood has nothing to do with any of this and is the last possible explanation for the Drones. Now there is a red herring for sure. I must admit you do have plenty of humor here. I would almost say professional.
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