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« Reply #855 on: May 13th, 2009, 8:46pm »

Robert?
The subject was once fun, but now how can you make an obvious hoax fun? I am sure someone will find a way.
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« Reply #856 on: May 13th, 2009, 9:04pm »

on May 13th, 2009, 8:46pm, masker33 wrote:
Robert?
The subject was once fun, but now how can you make an obvious hoax fun? I am sure someone will find a way.

Ah, come on now. rolleyes
Robert was too unique and unexpected to be a fake. I don't see why someone would come forth with such an unbelivable story unless there was something behind it. It just bugs me. He got vanquished so quickly too. Very strange.
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« Reply #857 on: May 13th, 2009, 9:30pm »

Bollywood was a very early target early in the posts when researching the Sataryayana ..and I was aware that certaing indian companies want to develop their markets here. However nothing in the movies produced bear any resamblance or connection to the drone.
Having said that we cannot ignore The indian/arabesque influence in the designs. This was intended I believe to appeal to esoteric crowd and cropcircle peoples. A lot of the new age, old age now, is derived from from the buddha/hindi teachings and lore . OTF picked up on it very early . I have no doubt that others in the DRT also, and it resonated with them.
Take some of the shapes on the wall here, and artifacts on the altar..much like what OTF showed. here
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It explains their approach to this hoax quite distinct from ours, and as how they perceive reality and why they are intransigent about all the possibilities. But metaphysical or not It does not explain the the lies of a few, not all, however. That remains.

But no, Mask. I disagree that hollwood would have to produce a slick project..too good..it becomes quite obvious..
But the material was used by our hollywood. Most of this filming was completed in Jan 2007. Then all Trailers in comic con 2007 removed and new trailers after made. all else stayed. Find one and let me know eh.That earth episode had already been shot, it had o be retooled and completed in Oct 2008 like change Isaacs name, they said so, to Abraham. to change some of the Isaac material, like diagrams..but it was not enough. And why Levs Blog went down..immediately after.We know this.
No Bollywood movie did that , not that they can't, That would be silly and stupid, but they have not, so they ranks very low in probabaility, wheras, hollywood, we see it, ranks very high here along with Lev, Why rack brains its obvious To me.

A renegade cult or believer or doomsday artist, like Sherry Shriner?, who knows, I doubt it....Its certainly fashionable though.
But it was fun going through that writeup..
and the watchers file. Look at that logo..those aliens look familiar was it kris or levs oms....Can't recall..

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dumb.htm
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Sherry_Shriner






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« Reply #858 on: May 13th, 2009, 10:27pm »

on May 13th, 2009, 8:20pm, masker33 wrote:
Who did you design it to offend?


Well, I wasn't really trying to offend anyone, I was actually waiting to see who would be the first person to reply to that post.

If somone got offended, I would ask why?

on May 13th, 2009, 8:20pm, masker33 wrote:
Essentially you are correct about the LAP and the BB Drone coming from the same source.


I know I am. I wasn't born yesterday. Not only is there LAP textures on the BB drone, but parts of the BB drone are pictured in Isaac's "inventory report". You would have to be dumb not to make the connection that TY and Isaac are the same person.

on May 13th, 2009, 8:20pm, masker33 wrote:
The first Drone on the internet was also the work of a father (engineer) and a son (CG) in my opinion.


Where did you form that opinion from? What "clues" led you to believe that? Or did you just make that up, off of some weird hunch you got after reading someones blog?
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« Reply #859 on: May 13th, 2009, 10:51pm »

Nev, since we have momentarily veered back toward a relevant topic, I have a question for you. That "skynet" contraption in the screen shots from the SCC show looks like way more than the "kissing cousin to the drones" claimed by the owner. I have not seen any really great screen shots, and I have not watched any of the episodes, but it looks to me like the "drone parts" used on the skynet are the same things we have been looking at for two years now. My question is, how plausible is it that the artists working on the show would make their drone parts match so closely with the stuff from an internet hoax? Am I right in thinking the show's artists would have to start from scratch in a graphics program and produce the components, then cobble them together with fake airplane parts? How likely is it that an artist uninvolved in the original images would bother to make such a convincing replica of a drone? I know it can be done, as in the stuff Kris did, but he set out to duplicate them in order to prove they could be CGI. It looks to me like the artists who did the skynet thing (an awful lot like the BB Thing) had full access to the computer files containing all the parts for the Chad/Raj things as well as the other bits. This makes a lot more sense to me in light of the time crunch and budget constraints that everyone in the real world has to deal with in one way or another. What do you think?
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« Reply #860 on: May 13th, 2009, 11:02pm »

Good question Admiral, and how likely is it they would steal a new version from Lev too, and not even say Thanx. And we know how luciferian Lev is, even part of the tetragrammaton center is in there..they are shameless! Fortunately ignorant, as they missed that. But don't worry Lev I hold the Black Hilted Knife in one hand, the White Hilted Knife in the other. Together we'll fix their little red wagon smiley
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@ Nev..I think I can explain the engineer..remember that Raj brotherinlaw was the graphics artist guy and his Future father in law..a mechanical engineer, access to good Cad software then.., and it was his camera. and it went to his computer, not Rajs. I think thats where the idea came from..

@ Admiral you have mail.


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« Reply #861 on: May 13th, 2009, 11:34pm »

The Abraham version of the LAP works a lot better for TV, I think. That incredibly beautiful and impossible to fake (except in Illustrator, at default settings) LAP that Isaac feloniously and silently (somehow) sneaked out of his building without getting any wrinkles in it, is too busy and full of fine lines to come across well on TV. Gosh, you'd think they would at least give Lev a mention in the credits somewhere.
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« Reply #862 on: May 14th, 2009, 12:28am »

on May 13th, 2009, 4:48pm, masker33 wrote:
Could be. Even if Isaac is bogus, the LAP is very nice and imaginative and did require probably more work than the Drones. Why would a group of regular hoaxers go to so much trouble! Hollywood is in it for the money and the Drones have made no money. I believe a father son team of engineer and artist produced the original drones and it took off from there. Copycats followed maybe even Hollywood TV.
Pro funnymen. grin


Another possible scenario, quoting myself.

on Jan 30th, 2009, 01:30am, Gort wrote:
For those that think at some point the hoaxters are going to come forward and confess their dirty deed don't count on it. If this were a ha ha hoax you might expect someone to come forward and say "well it's gone on far enough now, we've had our fun, but we never thought it would go this far. This is how we did it."

But it's not a ha ha hoax. A handful of people were given an assignment to develop a viral marketing campaign.

The game plan probably went something like this -- Post a few pictures, tell a few stories, remain anonymous. Also we have an old script from one of the Outer Limits Shows about a man trying to expose the government cover-up of extraterrestrial contact. We've changed a few things and added some pictures linking it to the photos and the alien language. That will go out after the photos are publicized. We will say that the photos provided an opportunity to release this information, so the two will work hand-in-hand the fictionalized story and the photos to back it up.


But their job is done, they accomplished their objective. They knew that once it took hold like any viral marketing campaign it would take on a life of its own which it most certainly did. Best thing they can all do now is nothing and that's exactly what they'll do so don't expect anybody to come forward and tell this story.

It would be interesting to find the link that ties them all together. The original transmittal e-mail with the photos and the script. Can you imagine what that would sound like?

Hey all, attached are the photos we spoke about. You all have your individual assignments. The basic script is also provided.

You need to provide enough detail to make it sound convincing, but don't overdo it. The sci-fi script from the old Outer Limits Show will provide detailed information so keep your stories pretty much to the simple facts, the location, what you are doing there, others who were with you at the time, their comments if any, and your feelings or emotions whether you experienced trepidation, wonderment etc.

Above all do not reveal your true identity nor any connection to the production company. Provide enough information to make it sound credible and do not try to defend the CGI aspects of the photos, nothing we can do about that just stick to the script, your individual stories and only provide enough to make it sound credible.

Avoid too much information. Sound sincere and cooperative, express your emotion, and express your thoughts at the time of the sighting.

The various bulletin boards will be monitored and if needed you may have to participate, further instructions will be provided as the need arises.



Should mention there is another “gort” not me.
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« Reply #863 on: May 14th, 2009, 08:06am »

on May 13th, 2009, 4:48pm, masker33 wrote:
Could be. Even if Isaac is bogus, the LAP is very nice and imaginative and did require probably more work than the Drones. Why would a group of regular hoaxers go to so much trouble! Hollywood is in it for the money and the Drones have made no money.



How do you know the Drones have made no money? For making no money... there is a lot of it being spread around.

If you just take the PIs, they seem happy with the inflow of cash. wink

There have been overseas trips, wining and dining, web sites to purchase and maintain… tons of time, effort, distractions, ruses and Drones to defend. Not even a free lunch is free any more.

California has a saying... there's gold in them there hills.

If anyone has any interest in the truth... follow the money.

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« Reply #864 on: May 14th, 2009, 12:16pm »

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@ Nev..I think I can explain the engineer..remember that Raj brotherinlaw was the graphics artist guy and his Future father in law..a mechanical engineer, access to good Cad software then.., and it was his camera. and it went to his computer, not Rajs. I think thats where the idea came from..

BINGO.
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« Reply #865 on: May 14th, 2009, 12:39pm »

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@ Nev..I think I can explain the engineer..remember that Raj brotherinlaw was the graphics artist guy and his Future father in law..a mechanical engineer, access to good Cad software then.., and it was his camera. and it went to his computer, not Rajs. I think thats where the idea came from..

on May 14th, 2009, 12:16pm, masker33 wrote:
BINGO.

The hoaxer known as Raj has lied about everything we have been able to verify, most importantly the location and the circumstances surrounding his ‘sighting’ so after being so methodically deceptive why do you believe he spoke any truth?

Fool me once, fool on you,
Fool me twice…..


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« Reply #866 on: May 14th, 2009, 2:43pm »

Possibel sources of money maybe we can connect dots here..or like match overlaps.
I believe Mask does not care if real or fake....He wants in a way to savor or relish every moment of what went into making this masterpiece, the exquisite details. I can understand that.

DRT-unknown in planning before or no later novemebr2007 before OMRT..same times PIs hired..Concurrent with Alienware launch
Possible sources _
Very kind and generous Private shy INT Euro group
Ovnis Investors content delivery investors
The Monks of the Shaolin Temple
Warners Intl Group

sarah Conners -Fox-Warners_the Halcyon Group

Alienware
Dell or
cross merchandisers as a revenue stream by
Warners/Halcyon

Leviathan- 9 old men in their sixties
and or sources linked to SCC Terminator
Leviathan>Blog down Oct 25, 2008 one day after SCC retools last 2007 Episode with drones and gets ok from fox.

Kris : Video based on sweat equity..own time
and Big boost from Berlin : 'Droneonline

LMH and Whitley
Volunteer Donations, 401 k plans , conferences, etc.
Warners Scifi or History Channel they worked for in past and present.projects.
The Muppets

Todd Shwartz : any and/or all of the above. attorny client privilege

As we have said before on your rancid forum, we (as in nine people in their sixties) who collectively call themselves LEVIATHAN have what we want and know others who will use it. Do we care if J. H###, foredum, dragonbreath, Jake and bake, enlightened sys config seeker or the incredibly dense Marvin believe it? NO. What difference could a self-important group of wet-behind-the -ear boobs mean to us. NONE. Now, do everyone a favor and go on to debunking something else you have so many places to start on your forum. The messiah Dan. John "people on every planet in the solar system" Leer, on and on. Your forum is gifted with a gold mine of bogus junk fit for junk minds. The Drone/Isaac events will not pass away because it would be to easy for someone like your Mr. Salad to claim he was the hoaxer or some other person to come along and face federal prosecution for removing government owned documents while claiming to be Isaac. NOW LET ME MAKE IT SO CLEAR CHILDREN SUCH AS YOURSELVES WILL POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND. YOUR OPINIONS HAVE NO VALUE AND ESPECIALLY COMMERCIAL VALUE AS THE DRONE/ISAAC DOCUMENTS DO. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? NO ONE IS ASKING OR BEGGING OR FORCING YOU TO BELIEVE ANYTHING. WE ARE AWARE THAT REALITY UNCOVERED IS PART OF YOUR GAME AND AVERY BAD PART. NONE OF YOU HAVE THE FUNDS THAT WE DO NOR CONNECTIONS PERIOD. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? [b]WE DO NOT CARE IF THE DRONE/ISAAC EVENT DISAPPEARS NOW BECAUSE OTHERS HAVE WHAT THEY WANTED FROM IT. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? THE EVENT WILL, WE PROMISE YOU RISE TIME AND TIME AGAIN BASED ON THE SAME WAY OTHER UFO EVENTS RISE AND FALL. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. WHEN YOU USE A REMOTE SYSTEM OF COMPUTERS,[/b] A CAPTIVE IP ADDRESS MEANS NOTHING EXCEPT THAT WE ANTICIPATE YOU. DO YOU UNDERSTAND AND COMPREHEND THAT MR. HICKS. WE ARE PREPARING A NEW BLOG THAT WILL CONTAIN THE ORIGINAL DRONE/ISAAC DATA AND HAVE MADE xxxx SURE THIS ORIGINAL DATA WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE FUTURE LONG AFTER YOU ALL HAVE LEARNED [b]THE REAL
TRUTH.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.[/b]

NOW ONCE AGAIN FOR THE SLOWER OMFERS, CLOSE YOUR THREADS, PRETEND YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS FROM THE LOONY TOON MARVIN (WARNER BROTHERS) AND RETURN TO YOUR WELL WORN PLAYPENS BEFORE YOUR FATHER (#1) RETURNS.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
L E V I A T H A N



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Thats funny the "long after we're gone" refers to residual books and DVD sales and film reapeats hahaha
He's telling the truth..its ironic..! He is..
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« Reply #867 on: May 14th, 2009, 3:34pm »

Wow...

9 people in their 60s throwing a prepubescent temper tantrum, refusing to acknowledge that tooth fairies aren't real.

Maybe the rest of the world is right, after all...

Ufology IS populated by crackpots and nutjobs...


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« Reply #868 on: May 14th, 2009, 5:07pm »

WOW! is right, nuts or just what. I thought the first drone was just engineer and artist having some fun, but after this! This hoax is a real plan, but Hollywood and Levy, please? I don't care real or fake, but this diatribe is spooky.
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« Reply #869 on: May 14th, 2009, 5:29pm »

So was the language used in the halo IRIS campaign spanning several servers., Very Spooky. starting off as a computere takover in a forum. No different here.
http://www.irisarchive.info/server1.html
This is typical of most virals. So you are correct in first part a real plan, but you need to polish up just a tad on virals or stealth marketing. The game hauled in 170+ million dollars in the first 24 hours..

The payoff versus miniscule investment compared to an ad on tv or a billboard..is well worth it..From their standpoint criminal not to use us.
Thats why social networks like this are ideal, thats why movie makers cross market with computer makers and game makers., candy makers, fast food, (Earliest example think ET and the Reeses pieces..sales up 20 percent after)its win win.
You can believe as you wish. I know better, and 9 old men with decades of experience, know better too than to work for free for anybody.




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