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« Reply #885 on: May 15th, 2009, 9:32pm »

Very insightful and well framed Double.
I think about this time would be whats called an exit interview when projects are closed.
.Thats what Ma's questions remind of.
Did some good come of it..yes.. good friends were made
Some creative work spun off..like videos and even songs, and of course Brand recognition..most important.
Did some bad come of it.
Yes Some unhealthy enmities were made of people who ordinarily, save a handful, would have been good friends and associates.
what about in between..
Well..for us good, and bad for them.
For us...that we exposed the workings of hollywood and Local ufo broadcasters and even prime time programs on major networks, as well as the profiteering of some ufo/paranormal celebrities.
For them..repeat the answer above.
was there a lesson to be learned?
Certainly...
By us..its been the same always since time immemorial...if its sounds to good to be true..it probably isnt..for them..you sow the seeds in the wind you will reap the whirlwind..You can go to a community and harvest ideas..don't go into it to plant your own for profit and gain. I think xfiles did study the community..I don't think they or even Spielberg for his movies, created a viral implanting ideas that were not there before to amplify the receptiion to the movies..That actually in long run dilutes the quality of new alternative ideas for the future . That is no small thing if you are any kind of visionary.
People are not cattle you can abduct and mutilate then left to fend themselves. Sony has been doing that notoriously, so did EA..
But in games..gamers know its a game..and know when they see a good commercial, and know its only..commercial, and the empty suits quickly fess up..most of the time if something goes awry.
Here..
Not so here. Sad
They have case studies..they know..they should be prepared to say mea culpa..and be done with it. It was bad mistake..
Otherwise..kookoos like us will never stop digging until someone yells..Uncle..
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« Reply #886 on: May 16th, 2009, 9:26pm »

The Drones funniest moments number 2

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Re: Isaac Analysis, precisions
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Is it possible that we have passed the opportunity to see the obvious? What if "Isaac" planted the "sightings" of the "California Drones"? It has haunted me for a long time that pictures of the sightings was placed in the same place where "Isaac" chose to reveal his inside knowledge...at his website.
I agree, it haunting everyone including the hoaxters.

What if it all was planned, from day one; that everything released by "Isaac" are a plan to release secret information into the public, disguising it as a part of a coincidence...a very smart way to release this kind of information.
Holy cow, of course it waas planned..thats the only part he has correct.

That would account for the fake adresses of the told witnesses, and for the obvious fake sightings. It was meant to be fake from the very beginning!
If this is true, it brings this whole case more close to the truth than ever!

Say whathuh I would say brought it to a close..period. Just how much past fake is so fake, its real.
If we are to assume that a "Whistleblower" want's to release information, this way might be quite secure...
whistleblower, hoaxter, scammers, etc..too
Odd he must be talking to Atto and Cyrellis and exopolitics ,they say same thing. There must be a "kernel" or nugget of truth in that vast pile of..
we get the picture.

Furthermore, I'm working on the correlation between the LAP and the "Language" on the alledged "antigravity device".
Ventura and sereta said it was BS, odd he isnt asking help for poor Atto, looking for math validation too.
As of now, it seems that the LAP has values written into a circular interpretation, and the value of the "letters" on the "antigravity" device has relation to excactly the same. Only the interpretations in form of equations remains to be excavated.I think he meant circular reasoning, and just how deep are these equations buried.

This is where I need some help. If anyone here are able to make a qualified summary of the interactive similarities found in these values, I would think we are close to find at least some answer to this very complex piece of mathematics.
I can't even comment on that..Sarfattii said it was nonses, a math chair for woy just looked at woy and smiled., or they are still excavating as he never came back. . hahahaha

I noticed on Maintenant& ici now fr that the French Physicist.. JP Petite had been interviewed way back but never asked about the drones..what happened..Kudos..Nice site at ici by the way..very well done a lot better than Lindas. Why doesn't EVS and others.. ask him..ehh?
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« Reply #887 on: May 16th, 2009, 9:40pm »

Oh, no, I just saw that myself. Does this mean the investigation shifts from proving it real to proving it fake? Now I'm really confused. But Doc's a smart guy and he may be able to prove it fake.

And I was so hoping for some posts to start flooding into:

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=drone&action=display&num=1230850864

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on May 14th, 2009, 9:19pm, Sys_Config wrote:
You gave me idea! In fact, I am starting a thread with Drones funniest moments and quotes!



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« Reply #890 on: May 17th, 2009, 10:19am »

on May 16th, 2009, 9:26pm, Sys_Config wrote:
The Drones funniest moments number 2

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Re: Isaac Analysis, precisions
« Reply #22 on: Today at 12:54:12 AM »

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Is it possible that we have passed the opportunity to see the obvious? What if "Isaac" planted the "sightings" of the "California Drones"? It has haunted me for a long time that pictures of the sightings was placed in the same place where "Isaac" chose to reveal his inside knowledge...at his website.
I agree, it haunting everyone including the hoaxters.

What if it all was planned, from day one; that everything released by "Isaac" are a plan to release secret information into the public, disguising it as a part of a coincidence...a very smart way to release this kind of information.
Holy cow, of course it waas planned..thats the only part he has correct.

That would account for the fake adresses of the told witnesses, and for the obvious fake sightings. It was meant to be fake from the very beginning!
If this is true, it brings this whole case more close to the truth than ever!

Say whathuh I would say brought it to a close..period. Just how much past fake is so fake, its real.
If we are to assume that a "Whistleblower" want's to release information, this way might be quite secure...
whistleblower, hoaxter, scammers, etc..too
Odd he must be talking to Atto and Cyrellis and exopolitics ,they say same thing. There must be a "kernel" or nugget of truth in that vast pile of..
we get the picture.

Furthermore, I'm working on the correlation between the LAP and the "Language" on the alledged "antigravity device".
Ventura and sereta said it was BS, odd he isnt asking help for poor Atto, looking for math validation too.
As of now, it seems that the LAP has values written into a circular interpretation, and the value of the "letters" on the "antigravity" device has relation to excactly the same. Only the interpretations in form of equations remains to be excavated.I think he meant circular reasoning, and just how deep are these equations buried.

This is where I need some help. If anyone here are able to make a qualified summary of the interactive similarities found in these values, I would think we are close to find at least some answer to this very complex piece of mathematics.
I can't even comment on that..Sarfattii said it was nonses, a math chair for woy just looked at woy and smiled., or they are still excavating as he never came back. . hahahaha

I noticed on Maintenant& ici now fr that the French Physicist.. JP Petite had been interviewed way back but never asked about the drones..what happened..Kudos..Nice site at ici by the way..very well done a lot better than Lindas. Why doesn't EVS and others.. ask him..ehh?


Oh Dear Lord! shocked Everything is fake, so it must be true! What a brilliant way to "disclose" the truth! rolleyes

I can think of half a dozen religions that would just love to have these geniuses buy into their dogma.
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« Reply #891 on: May 17th, 2009, 2:59pm »

I believe this is where they will end it at.admitting in a wimpering manner,to hoax But...without declaration, , and then justify it, while excluding the most likely cause, hollywood, in this case for example, and attributing the enitire event to a small courageous group of whistleblowers.
In this manner they create a backdoor for themselves for any hoax they happen to bump into in the future, and prop up as real..they therefore minimize their embarassment and maintain some sense of self respectability.
This is no different than what LMH and C2c whitley and others have done all along.. Absolutely no difference at all.

Its much like a labeling convenience..
A woman who frequents many men is called a w hore..
A man who frequents many women is called cosmopolitan

IMO, It is no different in this hoax between the hoaxer, and his little network of cooperating red lit cathouses complete with p imps, trix , and shills who made it all possible.

I know where to draw a line, but do they. I love my neighborhood enough to know it will be a matter of time after a cathouse sets up shop, that legit business move out, and then residents would follow in suit, if we were to simply turn our heads and say..business as usual, live and let live.That philosophy historically tends to lead to premature demises.

For sure, I like the SCC logo Take back the future
and thats a page we should all learn to take, irrespective where the facts happened to fall.

Now, our dear friends for disclosure advocates disingenuously say that this was like a true real disclosure event..as if a sudden revelation, as Raska or dioufus chimed in after Dr von helliger.
If they really believed that then HPO, the PIs with their shirts, whatever, would be hawking the caret works like crazy to promote disclosure. dis close is unclose open up..air it out exposure!

Raska was there on august 2007 at om when
Ironically of all nicks to say it Halcyon, who registered june 7, 2007 said this.
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I am all for people making a buck off this thing, especially if this flushes the hoaxsters out of the closet to claim an interest in the meager proceeds. On the other hand, if this is real alien stuff, the disclosers (whether Isaac or the person(s) who took digicam shots) should be ecstatic that the material is finding some distribution and promotional exposure via mugs, shirts, tracksuits, tote bags and jewelry. http://www.originsproject.com/

So what happened..they forgot..by the way..Halcyon, just coincidence same name as the c2group..has had a website up since 2000 very very good preview flick by the way. I'm surprised he didnt push it like he should have.

so here is your chance HPO..you might get donations to mass produce it while doing the "disclosure" movement a big favor. whatever royalty fees will be minicscule, IF the owner comes out.. The benefit far outways the risk, if thats what you fear..You have the best cheer leaders on Earth there right behind you..and money too.! Maybe Daniel Sheehan will pop out and validate the letters. Don't be a UFO too HPO!
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« Reply #892 on: May 18th, 2009, 12:25pm »

The issues I have behind the disclosure theory are:

1. No one has every seen a craft like the BB Drones… not before 2007, and not after 2007.

2. No one has ever seen the language on the Drones or in the LAP (before or after 2007).

3. In fact, no one has ever seen the LAP (before or after 2007).


So, the question I would ask… what the heck is being disclosed?

Are we now to believe the reportedly “manned” craft that crashed near Roswell in 1947 was a drone (unmanned craft)?

Oh, so the BB Drone (craft) are just BS and are not real, it is the LAP and language that is being disclosed.

But why?

If the sighting events were fake, the craft that were shown were fake… then by what evidence are we to believe the LAP and language is anything but fake (which are all on the fake craft)?

The logic behind this is like the "two house" theory. In order to justify Chad’s existence (and the reality of the sighting), there must be a second house.

Therefore, disclosure becomes the "two house" theory behind the fake sightings, the fake witnesses, the fake photos, and the fake story lines? Isn’t it going to be a bit difficult to prove any reality behind Isaac’s claims (which logically have been found to be BS) about the photos he posted of the components and the LAP?

Disclosure is another "two house (theory) straw" being grabbed at to create some type of reality behind the whole BB Drone hoax. Why can they not just accept what we have known since late 2007… the “thing” is a hoax.



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« Reply #893 on: May 18th, 2009, 1:18pm »

Hi Marvin!
Its games and desperation,
I loved that nice little song by ordinarypop, I was amused that 11A said to watch it carefully..as if some clue was going to be there..the story of the family on the patio, going around the corner of the house with angled shots, as in tahoe, tall pines, and the high green hedges like in the Avalon apts in campbell, were made around the corner of a house, but his was done just a few weeks ago according to the comments between xavier, the singer, and Ramali is friend, where xavier says it was a special thanks to the project they discussed 3 weeks ago to paraphrase. so
I think..think after the fact BS.
The vid is nice though. I will place it in the art section as time permits.

I like what we have at hand better.

you have mail marv.

Update..Thanx zixbit, I'm not the only one following AW
A class Act, they will carry the fight on for Isaac! Hahahaha
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I would say..somebody just got a wedgie, ouch!
T4 is out any day now too..Enjoy, Rejoice..let us relish these moments together smiley
And Thats only one tentacle of our beastie smiley
It doesn't look like its making money to me, using it two years in a row does it?

Disclosure is coming but not the way some wanted it.



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« Reply #894 on: May 18th, 2009, 4:31pm »

Is there something similar to a WHOIS lookup that shows the previous owner of a domain? It looks like the allpowerful.com site wasn't used for anything for a long time, then it was a small site for selling religious books, and now alienware has acquired it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020327040942/http://www.allpowerful.com
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« Reply #895 on: May 18th, 2009, 5:42pm »

There is a service but they charge a small fortune..there may be another way but way does give you an idea at least..the AW registrar amy thompson is diff than that indian name they have for the corp itself. They chose a safername.net based in uk, AW has a branch there..,
this ones is in Milton keyes ukSafernet also handles Nvidia

Its prob the norm for each proj.
for sure they did not do anything withit before 2/2006..according to way back. not long came Kris, then Lev and others.
by that Time C2 was already making machinations with the vendors based on comments found in in 2005.


This may explain too why I that second fortune city site had a a reference to the sightings as a disclosure thing dated may 2004!!, somebody slipped. then it went down real fast but the cassiopia forums caught it.. I have the clip for that.

AW has every search for all powerful popping up all over the place..I wish I knew how they did that.
Domain Name: ALLPOWERFUL.COM

[REGISTRANT]
Organisation Name: Alienware Corporation
Contact Name: Amy Thompson
Address Line 1: 14591 S.W. 120th Street
Address Line 2:
City / Town: Miami
State / Province: FL
Zip / Postcode: 33186
Country: US
Telephone: +1 (305) 2519797
Fax: +1 (512) 2833369
Email: dnsadmin@dell.com

[ADMIN]
Organisation Name: Safenames Ltd
Contact Name: International Domain Administrator
Address Line 1: PO Box 5085
Address Line 2:
City / Town: Milton Keynes MLO
State / Province: Bucks
Zip / Postcode: MK6 3ZE
Country: UK
Telephone: +44 (19082) 00022
Fax: +44 (19083) 25192
Email: hostmaster@safenames.net

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Organisation Name: International Domain Tech
Contact Name: International Domain Tech
Address Line 1: PO Box 5085
Address Line 2:
City / Town: Milton Keynes MLO
State / Province: Bucks
Zip / Postcode: MK6 3ZE
Country: UK
Telephone: +44 (19082) 00022
Fax: +44 (19083) 25192
Email: tec@safenames.net

I like the Jesus thing it was pretty kewl
The allpowerful is supposed to come out beginning of June.

But all I would pay mind woud be to designs,,little video clips they do..and games they announce....This is interesting.

Other thtn letters and design, they have no use for the craft..as SCC did.
I very seriously doubt the HK in T4 will even look like the Chad drone in any shape whatsoeevr.
SCC may not come until next year..as they have a T5 in the wings too! but there's always a chance.

..BW nice followup on that too Bro!!..I had totally missed that.

I can hear Lev now saying "It was the Power!
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« Reply #896 on: May 18th, 2009, 5:55pm »

I try not to rehash this subject anymore, so as I said before why go on and on with this. The DRT is near death on any new subjects so the Drones are slowly dieing away into the consensus of hoax. If the truth has been reached , why spend more time on this subject. Just sit back and wait for the next Hollywood viral marketing plot, with your combined expertise, you should easily spot it. Why keep beating this dead horse.
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« Reply #897 on: May 18th, 2009, 6:16pm »

Oh Dear..You haven't read anything we wrote already.
Because Ma I didn't get my date with Ms Weaver
Until that time I will continue my combine expertise.
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« Reply #898 on: May 18th, 2009, 6:42pm »

on May 18th, 2009, 5:55pm, masker33 wrote:
I try not to rehash this subject anymore, so as I said before why go on and on with this. The DRT is near death on any new subjects so the Drones are slowly dieing away into the consensus of hoax. If the truth has been reached , why spend more time on this subject. Just sit back and wait for the next Hollywood viral marketing plot, with your combined expertise, you should easily spot it. Why keep beating this dead horse.


Consensus of hoax?? I don't see that at all over there. Please post some links to it.

That reminds me - anyone know the results of the survey DRT was doing on what the membership thought was the answer?
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« Reply #899 on: May 18th, 2009, 6:53pm »

If I were to throw a wild guess, I would imagine knowing their philosophy that among the myriad of possibilities, The Devil did it. grin
But Mask, arent you a member too and conversing underground with them.?.thats where they do most of their talking. oren is right , if its a consensus they certainly arent putting that in open. like summary conclusion. So it must be they want this to go on. No? Yes?
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