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« Reply #90 on: Jan 27th, 2009, 9:54pm »

on Jan 27th, 2009, 09:36am, Marvin wrote:
From Jedd...




Jedd,

I really think folks need to take some time and give your point some serious deep thought.

I believe this is an excellent counter argument to those who have said the witnesses are just trying to protect their privacy. As you have demonstrated, they can do that without deceit. And as I have pointed out, why do all of these individual witnesses (who supposedly do not know each other) use the same identical deceptive tactics? There is a pattern here that can not be ignored. It is so “in your face” obvious, it is like it was designed to be discovered… unless the hope was, the actual locations would not be found. This is an extremely important issue, especially when giving consideration to leaving the “door cracked” for some possible reality in the case.


Excellent point, Guys. Now that I think of it in those terms, I cannot recall a single good witness to something paranormal who started out anonymous and then became known for whatever reason, and had lied about details. Many of the Stevensville witnesses, and likewise Phoenix Lights witnesses started out trying to keep their identities out of the papers, only to be discovered or to come forward on their own. They did not have holes in their original stories. In the drone case, everybody was telling lies of one sort or another. Sometimes they were the exact same lies. Some of them whoppers. Now who does that remind me of...

There are plenty of cases where investigators soon find problems with witness testimony and eventually determine that the witness was less than honest. Those cases fall apart from numerous problems, and the witnesses are not taken seriously. Now what does that remind me of...
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« Reply #91 on: Jan 27th, 2009, 11:44pm »

Yes, and I remember even SPF33 commenting
« Reply #149 on Jun 9, 2007, 12:11am »

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i don't understand why all the written eyewitness reports have come out after fact.

where were these people and their stories a year or more ago?

i'm becoming more skeptical by the day...

What a nice show he and they put on throughout this, with flip flops notwithstanding.. A weasel could not have done better. smiley
But that is part of the control process, and whoever put the nicest pictures up, had the most attention. And boy did they all put them up fast! One play undecided skeptic, and the others puzzled and leaning to real.
Bravo! A few obvious extremists both sides, without nice pictures, ranting, and so all would gravitate to that nice show of pictures and obviously super intellgent analysts in the making. Encore!

Aside from that.. The admins claimed communication as with not only Raj but Jenna and Steph, and confirming all were in central ca. one owould think that info, the IP's in light of hoax findings would have been used to better effect in narrowing down specfic mappable locations of these people.
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=2020&page=5
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=2020&page=6
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=2020&page=9 ivo5000 says ip same area..but won't say where
By the way that whole thread is an excellent read.
There was JakeReason, kudos, who was right on top of things, sensing what looked like Disinfo on the Steph sighting, and recognizing flaws. My kind of guy.! cheesy

Oh Dear. Dr Dil, speaking of the devil yesterday , , look who reentered "The Game" . An old year leaves, and a new one comes in. (tee heesmiley)
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« Reply #92 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 10:02am »

on Jan 27th, 2009, 11:44pm, Denise wrote:
Oh Dear. Dr Dil, speaking of the devil yesterday , , look who reentered "The Game" . An old year leaves, and a new one comes in. (tee heesmiley)

Yes, it appears the game is afoot once more…..

(“I play the game for the game's own sake.”)

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« Reply #93 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 12:09pm »

Lets call her last comment at OMF a strike
"Well first you will have to convince sidd mead of that and me smiley"
What?!!
What an intentional distortion of facts, ie A Lie
Sidd said no such thing about a government Snafu!
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/index.cgi?board=cali1&action=display&thread=2135&page=2
I have long been a believer in the alien presence on our planet since at least Biblical days. (Read the book of Ezekiel.) There have been too many eyewitness accounts to argue to the contrary. I was cruising the net when I ran across some interesting graphics that were purportedly a part of a reverse engineering program run by a government agency. The patterns are beautiful, arabesque, intricately geometric. I combined three of them into one graphic and used that pattern as a graphical background between segments of my presentation. I am not aware of any prohibition regarding these images...but to ease your curiosity, I am not 'part of' any particular group that pursues the whole subject of alien presence.

SYD MEAD

Where, where can anyone find that Mead said that anywhere and that he said anything other than that
He liked the design..arabesque..geometric?
In the LAP
Guess what? OTF saw the same thing in the Drone. But, with Hindu symbology, . Personally I liked that, but it never went far. Even a reporter reported it looked like an Indian wedding gift.
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In fact, the One of the main partners in Terminator IS of Arab descent. If its Government snafu, and has all that arabesque/indian influence and Raj is Hindu, maybe its an Indian Government snafu, or an Indian Film company, trying to make a mark.
And Still, all in all, Sidd, called it intentionally in his letter CART CAPER which rearranged is CARET CRAP.
Yes the design was cool, but the story is just what he just said it was. CRAP. not a government snafu. Smart Man.


Tomi, is very confused too, for on one hand it was good idea to ask Sidd Mead, then turns around and says..
Tomi said
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it's kind of embarassing when people asking the questions about who created the LAP to the calibre of the Syd Meads of this world comprehend it less than those who they ask.."
She must be reading someone elses letters, as the above letter is clear, speaks for itself , and is unequivocal.
And not to further embarass anyone here , Its the custom in most civilized countries, that if you don't know, you ask., irrespective of social rank.



So, she is only in agreement with her own thoughts, and does not even understand them herself!

But, despite deliberately mis stating facts, She has somewhat succeeded in taking the heat of the Raj matter in the Raj pole thread, to talk about her own mental snafus and ideation, to take heat off the DRT. With Kris there, this can go on for pages and ages:." But Tomi..Tomi don't you see, what will it take Tomi? Be reasonable Tomi, Tomi, look at this way, or which way is that Tomi?
Christ!

I hope someone wises up over there and sees that, before an excuse is made up to justify not releasing the information.
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« Reply #94 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 2:13pm »

Great Post there Denise...That Indian Gift does look a lot like a drone...Very interesting indeed...
Starting to look a lot less like drones and more a CGI art piece based on a specific religious history and its art.....
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« Reply #95 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 2:35pm »

on Jan 28th, 2009, 12:09pm, Denise wrote:
Where, where can anyone find that Mead said that anywhere and that he said anything other than that
He liked the design..arabesque..geometric?
In the LAP
Guess what? OTF saw the same thing in the Drone. But, with Hindu symbology, . Personally I liked that, but it never went far. Even a reporter reported it looked like an Indian wedding gift.
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In fact, the One of the main partners in Terminator IS of Arab descent. If its Government snafu, and has all that arabesque/indian influence and Raj is Hindu, maybe its an Indian Government snafu, or an Indian Film company, trying to make a mark.



Doubtless Denise,

You seem to have an eye for “high” fashion and Drone connections. wink


So the Drones are from India... does Raj know about that? shocked


You know, in the bottom "cage" area... I still think I see "Casper" or a "Storm Trooper" in there. grin
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« Reply #96 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 3:17pm »

Thanx Radi and Maaaaaaarrrrvin smiley wink wink smiley
I didn't find that until last night, whilst reading old posts.
And then the Sid Mead issue arose, and I researched. Someone saying Sid and she are on same wavelength would have been interesting. But thats not what I found.I thought OTFs observation was more descriptive than Sidds verbal comment actually, looking at the design OTF put up. But of course OTF referred to the Drone while Sid M. to the LAP vectors, in use already.
If you go to Reunion Rajinder comes up with an aquaintance Ramesh, at that Elan address, then rameshkrishna, same exact ages, address living in san jose, and also at one time Oregon. The big O smiley
Ramesh S also came up as a system adm, at a global buddhist organization in santa cruz, or was it Capitola. I will have to recheck. Its been a while.
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I am clueless whats in the cage, it could be Monte Pythons dead parrot. Casper, the friendly ghost? I like that movie!
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« Reply #97 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 4:52pm »

Denise, what's that animated GIF after the Indian scepter above?
Hey, I thought you had to go back to work? You must have been able to use someones laptop I take it. grin
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« Reply #98 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 5:57pm »

on Jan 28th, 2009, 3:17pm, Denise wrote:
Thanx Radi and Maaaaaaarrrrvin smiley wink wink smiley
I am clueless whats in the cage, it could be Monte Pythons dead parrot. Casper, the friendly ghost? I like that movie!




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You will have to go back a long way in the threads to find these. They start here:

http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=drone&num=1185472642&start=0


So here you go:



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« Reply #99 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 6:19pm »

on Jan 28th, 2009, 4:52pm, Katterfelto wrote:
Denise, what's that animated GIF after the Indian scepter above?
Hey, I thought you had to go back to work? You must have been able to use someones laptop I take it. grin


Woy came up with that.

Woy did great work analyzing the LAP.

He found that image somewhere on it...I forget exactly how.

He also found words in it...but I forget what they were.

I liked Woy
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« Reply #100 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 6:29pm »

Thanks. He was that 45Meg too big to handle guy who said he was someone but then turned out to be someone else? At least I think!
I grabbed the 25Meg version.
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« Reply #101 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 8:02pm »

Hahaha thats great Marv, I recall that a ways back, great stuff. Yes Katt, I did, with Bluetooth, and some borrowed bandwith. smiley and that scepter gig is wild isn't it?
Woy is Mocs at myspace google both and you will find him there..last login was October, and he went to Germany for a bit fo do work for a german company. Highly political,we thought he was japanese, then found he was a really big guy. Very computer literate.
Very very smart guy, does not like LMH, who does?
But he colorized that LAP really nice that gave all kinds of problems justifying what I saw along with sys an dothers.as he knew what he put in there. Some people at another site saw same thing but only one or two besides him.

How he did it must have been special photoshop plugins.
But it had all those peace loving religious symbols like Jainism, old cdr keen characters etc. and yes..the Dopefish.
Anyway, he also did that scepter thing and Sys was told by others its just the way the artifacts did, but after seeing OTFs initial find that was discarded, I am not so sure.
Woy is based in Richmond Va, where that Deborah Tahoe lady disappeared to, before she shut that down her email according to Sysco.
He used to lurk around but stopped I hear.
Had no reason to drop out., but I think DRT pissed him off too., possibly numbers. No surprise there.
Very Possibly, imo, Woy knows what the LAP truly is and means. Lots of Oregon friends too.
Oregon must be a real radical state, environmentalists, tree huggers, etc. is it?
At some time he will jump in and say, Say Uncle!! and I'll tell ya.

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« Reply #102 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 8:57pm »

on Jan 28th, 2009, 6:19pm, murnut wrote:
Woy came up with that.

Woy did great work analyzing the LAP.

He found that image somewhere on it...I forget exactly how.

He also found words in it...but I forget what they were.

I liked Woy



Maybe this will help...


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It is an overlay of the LAP pages... likely a scanning artifact.



and the word is:

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At the 8:30 position:

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I steal.

It is found on this page:

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« Reply #103 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 9:00pm »

on Jan 28th, 2009, 12:09pm, Denise wrote:
Lets call her last comment Tomi, look at this way, or which way is that Tomi?


How does it feel being the Rush Limbaugh of the Drones? (He was never right either you know).. cheesy
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« Reply #104 on: Jan 28th, 2009, 9:10pm »

on Jan 28th, 2009, 8:57pm, Marvin wrote:
Maybe this will help...


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It is an overlay of the LAP pages... likely a scanning artifact.



and the word is:

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At the 8:30 position:

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I steal.

It is found on this page:

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Yes, Sys saw I steal also .
Here are some of Woys page pix. He is very well liked and a deep thinker. I think he likes Martians too!
There were some more of the circling ions here and there as well on the LAP. He logged in recently too. Thats good!
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