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« Reply #945 on: May 22nd, 2009, 11:53pm »

Sorting prior "concerns" over so as not to bury them.
Also, Raj's images were taken 5/16, not 5/17. Never say Nev
If thatís the case then itís a bit of a coincidence as he made the exact same mistake back in 2007. El Dr.
Isn't that special? I wonder which camera he used. And how his new pictures compare to his earlier one: Double Trouble


While we wait for Marvin, who can shed a little more light..as he always does..
this is to confirm that was starhammer and Daniel Ramsey.
maybe the same person, at least like same group..
we know he is adept at photoanalysis and graphics(already posted)

From Thread: Triangle?
Posted by Starhammer, on April 23, 2008 at 21:26 GMT
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Ran multiple filters on the image it is clean(good).. no vapor trial although there is some disturbance that tails off to the right...the disturbance is short. also on top and bottom left points a line can be made out...indicating it may be a solid triangle. good photo!_javascript:icon(':up:')

we knowhe and Lev use the same pix from same uk account. ter123abc ebay and photobucket where these images came from levs account
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But we know also..he said the picture sent to Atto by Daniel Ramsey.was copyrighted but would not respond to who owned the copyright. ONly an NDA would preclude him from answering..or fear of revealing something extremely important to disregard a legal claim.whereas any rightful owner would, like say SPF tell me remove it immediately..so what could possibly tie his hands?
#1 Not That Many Of You Would Have Known This But The Material You Are Picking Apart (And Not Very Well) Is Copyright Material...#2 You Have A Copy That Has Been Dramatically Altered, So There Is No Real Worry That Any Real Damage Can Be Done, And What Great Deductive Analysis To Find An Altered Linguistic Piece Of Info With "star Wars" Writing On It In A UFO Forum...and That Part Being The Biggest Altered Part..#3 The Deductions That I Am Following As I Have Pointed Out In Other Places Are At Best A "first Grade Pass The Secret Around The Room" Quality And Felt It Almost A Duty To Say Sometime As Opposed To Watching Your Head Bashing Attempts At Analyzing An Actually Very Important Piece Of Information...and This Avenue Is Really Not In The Forefront Of The UFO Phenomenon Where As Disclosure Is. Any Real Questions Will Be Answered But More Then Likely Not In This Less Then Deductive Manner.

he lists the website of Daniel ramsey and his wife..3soaps..as one of his favorite sites.
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I still think Starhammer and Daniel are different people ..I would say..daniel one of the lev group..prob the younger one.
Starhammer would be the older member is more polished and well read and articulate. Much like Arlington, and no less arrogant.
I would confidently say Daniel and Starhammer, the latter particularly, are bothwithin the Lev group.
What is important..is that he mentioned copyright but could not reveal....we know its the lev..group.and we know they did the SCC related designs in same time frame as warners/fox..
Now..I ran into some images..this is a hunch only as they come up in image search..tagged to the name
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It may not be them..but when sites shut down, people get squirrely, and evasive..or mute , something is up.
The myspace account suddenly went down..now a newone with variation that name.is up..without pix and dealing with comic book super heroes.
sans pix.
still following this up.

By the way..RWiggins and Torval send their regards to all of you. smiley



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« Reply #946 on: May 23rd, 2009, 02:55am »

on May 22nd, 2009, 11:53pm, Sys_Config wrote:
But we know also..he said the picture sent to Atto by Daniel Ramsey.was copyrighted but would not respond to who owned the copyright. ONly an NDA would preclude him from answering..or fear of revealing something extremely important to disregard a legal claim.whereas any rightful owner would, like say SPF tell me remove it immediately..so what could possibly tie his hands?


This is what he told me Sys:

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Originals And Copyrights Are Owned By Or Are In Possession Of Either Myself Or My Friend The Other "Dan" Mentioned In The Post, We Are Very Much Intertwined And Connected By Means Other Then The Subject Matter Here. I Am Sure A Quick Google Check Will Show That Both Daniels Are Very Much Tied To The UFO Subject And To "disclosure" And I Would Have Little Doubt The Name Daniel Sheehan And Disclosure Is Something You Are Aware Of Already.

¬ŮdrŲxŚ Is The "Non-human One That Was At The Foot Of The Post" Of Which We Have Over 250 and Some Odd Renderings Of.


NOTE: The first letter of every word is a capital letter, look familiar? wink
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« Reply #947 on: May 23rd, 2009, 11:33am »

Not Very Many People Write Like That. Fortunately. I suppose it is slightly less irritating to read than ALL CAPS or the typical semi-literate ramblings foisted upon us without punctuation or apparent knowledge of the shift key by the authors. Some word processor programs automatically capitalize each word if you tell them you are writing a headline, but even that seems like an awful lot of trouble for a silly affectation. rolleyes

I did eventually figure out that the exif data posted by Marvin yesterday was for two versions of the same "Raj" photo. Or at least I think that's the deal. I did a quick look at some basic info about exif data, so now I'm not completely clueless about it. Too bad it has no use to me in real life. I would actually learn how to read and interpret the data if I could think of a good reason to spend the time. I have enough trouble just finding the bad pictures I take, after they wander around in my computer for a while.

Also, I saw somewhere yesterday that the SCC show has been canceled. This is probably not news here, but I found a bit about it while looking at an unrelated story, and it was news to me. Or maybe I had just forgotten, but at any rate, it will be interesting to see what goes on with the usual suspects. Not that I expect the dronologists to stop droning their mantra or anything like that. Such an eventuality would call for one of these: shocked
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« Reply #948 on: May 23rd, 2009, 3:08pm »

Hi guys I just woke up..My little girl is not coming over this weekend as usual so I have the whole laborday weekend to give these people living blazes. hahahaha
Okay..That is starhammers style both in the quote above, as well as when he posted as Danielr1 at OMF, where he used red in all caps..The one you refer to as I had not recognized that post specifically..and looking for the refernece is Dman
http://ufo-blog.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1221181995/0
who posted ahere earlier claiming copyright. I never saw those posts..First time
I saw that thread post(s)....He never emailed me either which wouuld have been nice to resolve that.
Unless he can show proof of authorship I would have left it as is, especially when he said project.
He understates "levs Role"..and he lied about him sending the pix to Atto. He says at same time he can't find Leviathan ..what the heck..(i'm sounding like brent).
Hey. they got busted..period.. They sent that to see if Atto would would spread it.

Atto at OMF responds to that DR argument directly:
You specified that the images where supplied in order to see where they might show up.
It should come as no surprise to you that they would find their way into serious non BS research and investigations.
It is unfortunate that you feel the way that you do about it.
For you see, this planet and all life on it is involved in a situation that can not afford to be the continuing victim of secretive conduct any longer.
I did not enter into ANY affidavits of NON Disclosure with you at any point.
Furthermore, the accusations made in your post indicate a slanderous slant which in my professional opinion is grounds for dropping contact with you like a bad habit. One phone call is not indicate of either panic or obsession.

I am too busy for monkey feet in my soup. EH?!!


I saw the legal implications Immediately!. I went to Law school darn it I know! Atto realized what he did and yanked everything back to his credit.
IF anything Atto saved their silly behinds if the real DS got involved.This would not help disclosure, as he says his goal was.. it would embarass it!,
they are a commercial project they have nothing!
Only if DSheehan were involved would it have any substance..shall foward this to him? Let me know I will foward all external and [b]internal
correspondence to him, he's a an Atty ..he knows what to do, if thats the case.[/b] Must be kernal of truth that the DRT was trying to push despite all of carets flaws.
what a joke.Leviathan so hard to reach, he's a gold member in that front group.
.Notice.. check!..that exit strategy from this mess is now blocked.

Anyway, At OM and here and ATS he used both the above style exactly. At at om and here he used both every other and all caps.

That tell tale hardened skeptics argument versus open Sceptic ..by the way i note he uses sceptic to us thats like in septic , we use skeptic..is that a uk spelling?am i mispelling?
Just curious..thats all.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/single/4877160.html
By the way..The blue green distortion he was talking about was something else..it was the DOPEFISH grin grin grin
Dopefish came thru for me..that is so funny.

Dman and Hammer are one and same. He even uses same arguments and rational at ATS on his own threads that were non caret.

Oh dang no more SCC?. heck it was better than the movie!!! I am depressed..Same thing happened at ufo hunters, but we know what happened there.

Double I think like that production Incident at DRT headqurters, it was spot on ... only its more than Numbers having a nervous breakdown. AAAAAAAARGh hahaha

Dr you must fill me on details..Email if necessary..I can't believe I missed that action. It would have been glorious!! grin
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« Reply #949 on: May 23rd, 2009, 4:33pm »

Hi Sys, smiley

Regarding DM & SH, heh, heh, I did tell you that I was certain they were one and the same.
(Well, Parsnip but itís the same difference cheesy).

What you see is what you get there was no other contact beyond the forum, to be honest it felt Ďscriptedí for want of a better word and I expected the criticism from him a little earlier, I was just jousting and seeing what he wanted to share, which as I expected was nothing. Perhaps I didnít, ďneed to knowĒ or whatever clearance the Disclosure Ďmovementí are currently adopting as nothing else was shared. However Iíll admit I expected him to play a little longer than he did as I was respectful (but in a firm sort of way grin).

Ah well, cíest la vieÖÖ wink

Cheers!!

Edit - *Sceptic* is UK & *Skeptic* is US (and most other countries).
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« Reply #950 on: May 23rd, 2009, 5:50pm »

Being that he has the Rosetta stone , Lev is already a member there at DRT , why haven't they passed it on.
The Ramifications are so..so..Ramifying I don't know what to say. Maybe HPO can make a stereolithograhic copy using those eximer lasers..that would be swell, on his own time of course. We don't want him to get in trouble with his boss.
But after that nice model and trade show exhibition he claimed never posted about it..well..It seems he would be happy to do anything.

He might me angry at me ..like Linda..and well you know Linda..she punishes everyone when she mad...
The blazes with truth and disclosure.
Its all about the show.
These are all showmen.
They are ending it with a patti cake patti cake 123
performance..
And I don't feel bad saying they are full of Baloney.


Don't get me wrong..I dont mind baloney, but there is so much in their refrigerator I cannot get to the cheese!
In fact, I cant even close the door back.!
Maybe be DR can spice it up with the Rosetta Rock.

or a cameo by DSheehan would be fantastic. shocked
As for finding what they see as truth..it will be well rewarded.
as here..Lets imagine..This is Nemo receiving an award on behalf of DRT, for finding the truth. I must say very few people can accept such an award as graciously as he does here.
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/Leviathan66/video/x3tfpt_fantomas-se-dechaine-le-commissaire_shortfilms
Of course, the truth has escaped them, and sends its greetings as a reminder.
cheesy

Is there anything else that might help salvage this fiasco?
Perhaps I have been frightfully harsh, unfair, shameless, snarky, and insensitive to them throughout this ordeal.
There but for the Grace of God go I, Dr Dil would tell me..

Having been raised in a God Fearing home, I don't take these things matters of conscience and the soul, lightly..
So I will offer them an opportunity that they, and other websites affiliated with them can avail themselves.
http://www.forum-posting.info/?gclid=COyjjcr30ZoCFQqenAod2X8L3w
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for a mere $798 dollars they can "turn the tide around" from the forum doldrums. I recommend the premium monster package complete with moderators.
Maintenant Ici will love it too.

Don't let anyone ever say Sys was uncaring and not magnanimous.

Cheers Saludos Greetz!




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« Reply #951 on: May 24th, 2009, 06:10am »

on May 23rd, 2009, 5:50pm, Sys_Config wrote:
for a mere $798 dollars they can "turn the tide around" from the forum doldrums. I recommend the premium monster package complete with moderators.
Maintenant Ici will love it too.

Can you imagine:

5000 - Posts (Whopping)
600 - Threads
400 - Users

on drones right out of the barrel! grin It's tempting to spring the $798 to see it.

Then again maybe the $4.95 Trial is just as good with:

10 - Unique Posts
2 - Threads
1 - User

Sys, you could apply for the moderator job on their Forum Moderator Service to earn some spare cash. I wonder how much of the $79 you'd see?!
You would not have to do much because of all those whopping quality members! grin grin

I know a few forums that could certainly use some real or more members. It's so sad when someone has a forum and it's clear there's no interest in it.


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« Reply #952 on: May 24th, 2009, 08:37am »

$798/5000=$0.16 per post! What a deal! I wonder where they find Quality Posters who will work that cheap? But anyway, that would sure put them on the map.

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« Reply #953 on: May 24th, 2009, 11:41am »

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That chimp would sure raise the average IQ level that's for sure. Probably make more sense then then a lot of the nonsense out there.
Wonder how long he'd last before being banned? grin
Gotta love it this holiday weekend. Just got back from vacuuming the pool to work on the tan.
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« Reply #954 on: May 24th, 2009, 4:22pm »

While we are barbecuing on our patios and slapping on the old sp34 sun lotion in those hard to get places smiley Golf Links Dr, los gatos, ca Deborah M
Oka Rd, los gatos, ca Frank

I wonder if Frankie checked out the Deborah Mckinley in San Jose.
I recall even Jeddyhi mentioning that..months and months ago.
at that time we didnt know about all the coincidental proximities between our players.
But..Back in February Avalon asked the same question..but never really got a response.
so..Just out of my usual obsessive curiosity I looked around mapquest and other avenues.
From Droneteam.com forums:
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Avalon was correct. here is the "Big Picture"
[Looks like a small Soup ladel doesn't? Campbells Soup Ladel at that cheesy
Assuming I'm correct..
why, Heavens to Betsy's !it should be no problem for Frankie to drop over Deborahs..its like 1 mile..A to B with C being the Avalon Apts.
All these pole experts, and can't google a name and an address.
Yes Frankie the "I'm your man" pole expert.
Yes Frankie I agree, You're our "man" too.

Whatever did happen to Avalon the poster anyway?..he just dropped out..'reckon he got bad vibes or something? rolleyes Did they or Numbers put/leave a flyer on Deborahs door knobs? shocked



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« Reply #955 on: May 24th, 2009, 6:08pm »

Holy Cow! shocked

Curiouser and curiouser...
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« Reply #956 on: May 24th, 2009, 6:42pm »

@Double I can use a double shot of that Rye about now myself smiley

@Dr.Dil , while that upstairs is simmering in the pot, We know Hammer is Daniel and are one and the same , and that he feigns ignorance of Lev yet lets little Lev sit on his lap and use his files willy nilly , which in turn are borrowed by the Terminators TV show.,.He then acknowledges working thru Atto, to promote "disclosure"and is aware that the real DS knows them .
http://ufo-blog.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1221181995/15
Can you tell me if you can pick up that same smug and arrogant style, including longwinded run on sentences with this guys magnificent prose below?
http://myspace.com/nagflar.
Just Curious. It makes me wonder , and just speculating here..just how much canvassing of the ufo community was done, and would it have included members of the disclosure groups, Like BSG did with Exopolitics, or even Tapten members. I recall Tapten had the Ranch, and Lev had the Farm.
a sort of returned the favor with a kind of plug for their invaluable assistance.
Maybe thats why SCC used the Circus Tents cheesy
Thanks!

smiley

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« Reply #957 on: May 25th, 2009, 11:36pm »

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Gee Mr. Wilson It got real quiet all of a sudden.
Did I say something wrong? ..





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« Reply #958 on: May 26th, 2009, 12:49pm »

Speaking of Hoaxes, I ran across the Ga one on bigfoot
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/clayton/stories/2008/08/19/bigfoot_hoax.html ..The Cop involved was like fired on the spot. I wonder what happened to the Teacher that Helium baloon flare one..was that Texas or Penn.? Where the Hoaxters. called into police themselves to report the UFO lights..
Makes me think..I wonder If a call reporting a possible missing person, where an officer or officers are assigned and resources -albeit--halfheartedly. like that nice young Capitola officer Gonzales, used.., and the case is kept open, qualifies..It did make headlines and put pressure on police a tad., just curious..
What are the California Statutes on that?
You don't think the police really care about
things like that do they?
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« Reply #959 on: May 26th, 2009, 2:48pm »

Quote:
Gee Mr. Wilson It got real quiet all of a sudden.
Did I say something wrong? ..

Not really. Many listen to what is said on this thread.
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