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« Reply #1275 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 10:52am »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 09:25am, tomi01uk wrote:
Resist.. resist ... ok, one last argument. Why does copying something in Illustrator confirm something was originally created in Illustrator to you?


I am not the one who needs the answers....You ask the questions and say you are a researcher....Then do the research and learn illustrator....Or you just don't want to because you are afraid of what you might find.....
So stop pushing and redirecting again the focus on someone else beside you.....
Read the thread at OMF and at ATS then do the work by creating your own LAP and you will find the answers..
Lets see some of those illustrator skills.... wink
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« Reply #1276 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 11:56am »

tomi does not wants answers......i think we all know that. Tomi has another more sinister agenda. She wants this hoax to gain infamy......the question has to then be why? Why insist on keeping this alive? Why insist on defending the DRT (even though she claims to be on the outs with them) and LMH (when this evil shrew holds the keys to what tomi claims to want answered?) Why redirect the conversation every time she is asked a legitimate question? Why call yourself a researcher when you do no research? Why? Why? Why?
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« Reply #1277 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 12:28pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 03:24am, tomi01uk wrote:
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Any solid idea about how large the actual size of the LAP was at the point of its creation, with Illustrator or otherwise?

on Sep 17th, 2009, 05:11am, tomi01uk wrote:
Does anyone know for sure how large the LAP was when it was first created?
no deflections here please... just facts smiley

My point here is that there are many areas of supposition from the standpoint of how it was done.

Yet these studies are posted as if they add substanciation to the case of how the LAP was created. No less or more valid than any other theory, but they are touted as having substance.

Yet, how large was this to begin with? Obviously, the 1pt between the bars study with the myriad font only works when the LAP has been enlarged to a certain degree, yet this resolution is not able to accomodate all of the smaller designs in the LAP. Was the LAP created in many parts, to accomodate creation of the smallest most intricate designs and then these sections scaled down to give the proportions we see now?
My point is that there is a fair amount of liscense being taken by the prohoaxers in establishing what they consider to be "facts". Without explaining the contradicting issues.

Hi Tomi as far as I’m aware the (original) person who stated the size was something other than it appears (i.e. pixels) was Bennett and to be honest since then you’re the only person I’ve seen who attributes any worth to that statement.

I think Bennett was wrong.

Cheers. smiley

(Again with the pro-hoax thing? I’ve told you before if anything it’s surely a pro-reality thing….. kiss)
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« Reply #1278 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 1:05pm »

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This is the scale I would use to comfortably be able to do the artwork in just this part of the LAP. Smaller circular designs within the LAP would require a much greater increase in scale.

If I were to COPY the whole LAP in Illustrator:
I would begin in pieces. Per required scale to work with the smallest designs. I would probably then employ the old fashioned technique of blue graph paper.

I do not think that any "font" was used in this artwork. Each symbol has a slight irregularity if you look closely enough.
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« Reply #1279 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 1:17pm »

But DrDil, you are right, the whole thing is nuts...
It's got to be... tongue

Unless of course this LAP really is a vastly scaled down reproduction of a 15' design inside an alien ship..

I want to believe the latter, but I'm going for nuts...
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« Reply #1280 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 1:31pm »

http://ovnis-usa.com/drone_investigation_FAQ.pdf

It's kind of fun to read this again.

Page 28 has your hidden message
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« Reply #1281 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 1:33pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 1:05pm, tomi01uk wrote:
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This is the scale I would use to comfortably be able to do the artwork in just this part of the LAP. Smaller circular designs within the LAP would require a much greater increase in scale.

If I were to COPY the whole LAP in Illustrator:
I would begin in pieces. Per required scale to work with the smallest designs. I would probably then employ the old fashioned technique of blue graph paper.

I do not think that any "font" was used in this artwork. Each symbol has a slight irregularity if you look closely enough.


You disregard previous research? Kris Avery showed scaling that is associated to Illustrator, Zenarchist showed that the Myriad font was used. What is your point? They are all wrong and you are right....that this stupid case is somehow real? I don't think I can entertain what you spew anymore. You are, in my opinion, a part of the hoax, along with LMH and Whitley Streiber. You mysteriously showed up on these boards just in time for the hoax to debut. I don't trust you, I don't believe a word you say, and I think you are still in close with the DRT even while you say you are not. You speak out of both sides of your mouth. Your endless crusade to save these drones is old. I will not banter with you anymore.
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« Reply #1282 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 1:44pm »

Kris showed scaling with regard to stroke lines and the Myriad font used at the normal scale has nothing to do with this study.

This is the size of one of the circular designs enlarged sufficiently to create it, at least for me. That has little to do with the accuarcy of either other theory.

I am just showing one more complication in how this could be created or recreated.
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« Reply #1283 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:04pm »

You do nothing but attempt to resuscitate a dead hoax. You charade is so apparent. Somebody should hire PI's to investigate you. I'm sure you are a part of the hoax. There is no other explanation. You seem intelligent so your motives must be intelligently deceptive. If this site had an ignore feature, you would be on it.

If the others on here wish to continue playing your two year long game, good luck to them. I got you pegged. You never left the DRT for real....only left to work the skeptic boards. This will be my last post addressing you.
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« Reply #1284 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:18pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 1:05pm, tomi01uk wrote:
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This is the scale I would use to comfortably be able to do the artwork in just this part of the LAP. Smaller circular designs within the LAP would require a much greater increase in scale.

If I were to COPY the whole LAP in Illustrator:
I would begin in pieces. Per required scale to work with the smallest designs. I would probably then employ the old fashioned technique of blue graph paper.

I do not think that any "font" was used in this artwork. Each symbol has a slight irregularity if you look closely enough.


OK I will bite one more time than that is it for me...Since you have to act like you don't know what you are doing I will not charge you for my time.........In most logo recreation one has to zoom in or enlarge parts of the logos to see what it looks like.....In recreation of textures on has to zoom in or enlarge the texture to see how it is created...These are things that need to be done if it is in JPEG and depends on how it was saved and created PDF format.........The LAP was created in illustrator in VECTOR format or curves if you will...Thus NO MATTER THE SIZE IT WILL BE PERFECT QUALITY until it is saved as a JPEG OR PDF then it will be compressed and the text and other things will look odd when zooming in and enlarging it....Unless you use different methods of enlarging them...The best being that of the use of those that use that of a FRACTAL nature........................But even then it depends on the compression used to save it originally....So again I say this IS A MOOT POINT AND HAS NO BERING ON ANYTHING..........

on Sep 17th, 2009, 2:04pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
You do nothing but attempt to resuscitate a dead hoax. You charade is so apparent. Somebody should hire PI's to investigate you. I'm sure you are a part of the hoax. There is no other explanation. You seem intelligent so your motives must be intelligently deceptive. If this site had an ignore feature, you would be on it.

If the others on here wish to continue playing your two year long game, good luck to them. I got you pegged. You never left the DRT for real....only left to work the skeptic boards. This will be my last post addressing you.


I am also sure..........There just is no other just cause for all this nonsense and BS........Trying to save whats left...Which is nothing but the lining on the bottom of the bird cage......
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« Reply #1285 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:20pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 2:04pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
You do nothing but attempt to resuscitate a dead hoax. You charade is so apparent. Somebody should hire PI's to investigate you. I'm sure you are a part of the hoax. There is no other explanation. You seem intelligent so your motives must be intelligently deceptive. If this site had an ignore feature, you would be on it.

If the others on here wish to continue playing your two year long game, good luck to them. I got you pegged. You never left the DRT for real....only left to work the skeptic boards. This will be my last post addressing you.


If you are ever in London, look me up. I'll have a beer with you. I think you will be surprised. I am just what I am. You could get DrDil to ban me for being annoying.. but that would be about it..

Lol.. the fact you are stuck with me here is probably making the drt chuckle with tribal revenge too.. sorry about that.. wink But am I affiliated in this drone thing? Only in so far as I can help the PI's if I was allowed to smiley
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« Reply #1286 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:25pm »

How could you help the PI's?

Are they even still on the case?

Are they still being paid?
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« Reply #1287 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:29pm »

@ radi
Yes, the vector aspect goes without saying, the enlarging and reduction while creating it is the only way. I was showing the scale that had to be used initially on just one of the circular designs. Enlarge the others, look at the complexity. Huge scaling in its initial creation requires the same in copying it. What is your point? My point was this would be how I would copy the LAP back into Illustrator. What nut case would do this to begin with is all I ask? BFD.. no more arguing ...
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« Reply #1288 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:31pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 1:05pm, tomi01uk wrote:
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This is the scale I would use to comfortably be able to do the artwork in just this part of the LAP. Smaller circular designs within the LAP would require a much greater increase in scale.

If I were to COPY the whole LAP in Illustrator:
I would begin in pieces. Per required scale to work with the smallest designs. I would probably then employ the old fashioned technique of blue graph paper.

I do not think that any "font" was used in this artwork. Each symbol has a slight irregularity if you look closely enough.



Hi Tomi,

As to your statement: “Each symbol has a slight irregularity if you look closely enough.”

Something to keep in mind… we are not seeing the original document.

The copy of page 120, on http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/ is a copy (note the black “filled” holes on that right side of the page... and the white background of the scan on the left).

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This means we are not looking at an original, and it may in fact be a copy of a copy (to have black on one side and white on the other). Since it is a copy, distortion or irregularities may have crept into the image. If a copy machine were used… to create a copy of a copy, I would be surprised if irregularities were not introduced.

I hope this is helpful.


edit to add:

You know Woy over at OMF... he created a monster version of the LAP which had great detail. Do you have a copy of that? It may open your eyes. wink

Link: Can you handle the truth?

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« Reply #1289 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:35pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 2:25pm, murnut wrote:
How could you help the PI's?



Use every dirty trick in the book to search the internet for them on any lead they may have.

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Are they even still on the case?



Probably, hopefully.

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Are they still being paid?


I'm sure but they do give a great deal of time and consideration to this case outside of billing as well.
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