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« Reply #1290 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 2:53pm »

Thanks Marvin, yes I've had woys version of LAP on my HD since he first created it. It is very good at bring up detail. I thought already about what you said, the copies creating a lower resolution etc.. giving the impression of of variance in the identical symbols.
I tried to convince myself of that as well. I think it is entirely reasonable that a library of the symbols were at the very least used in this if it was created in Illustrator. But the smaller more individual designs, it is still a double edge sword either way, it is nuts.
That's all I can say anymore about this whole thing I think..
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« Reply #1291 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 3:03pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 2:31pm, Marvin wrote:
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« Reply #1292 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 3:06pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 2:35pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Use every dirty trick in the book to search the internet for them on any lead they may have.




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« Reply #1293 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 3:21pm »

As a professional graphic artist with 14+ years experience with Adobe Illustrator, I can say with absolute certainty that the LAP was created in Illustrator.

Then most likely printed, scanned, and JPEGed, resulting in the inconsistent image quality you see on the images.

I started my own LAP recreation in Illustrator before I was aware that others had already done so. I don't have a font creation program, but such things do exist, and it would have been pretty simple to create the "alien" font, drop it in a font folder, and have gobs of fun writing alien text in circles.

I was convinced by the time I'd recreated only two elements of the LAP that I was wasting my time - there was nothing magical or wonderful about it.
I trashed my files and never looked back.

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« Reply #1294 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 3:30pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 3:06pm, murnut wrote:
What about your integrity?


I try to dig as deep as possible smiley
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« Reply #1295 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 3:54pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 3:21pm, Albatross wrote:
As a professional graphic artist with 14+ years experience with Adobe Illustrator, I can say with absolute certainty that the LAP was created in Illustrator.

Then most likely printed, scanned, and JPEGed, resulting in the inconsistent image quality you see on the images.

I started my own LAP recreation in Illustrator before I was aware that others had already done so. I don't have a font creation program, but such things do exist, and it would have been pretty simple to create the "alien" font, drop it in a font folder, and have gobs of fun writing alien text in circles.

I was convinced by the time I'd recreated only two elements of the LAP that I was wasting my time - there was nothing magical or wonderful about it.
I trashed my files and never looked back.


Hi again Albatross smiley,

I just wanted to add that Albatross shares the dubious honour (!) of having some of his ‘realisations’ regarding the LAP forever immortalised at Dronehoax.com grin.

(Approximately half-way down the page)

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« Reply #1296 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 4:12pm »

LOL!
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Thanks, DrDil!


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« Reply #1297 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 4:14pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 3:21pm, Albatross wrote:
As a professional graphic artist with 14+ years experience with Adobe Illustrator, I can say with absolute certainty that the LAP was created in Illustrator.

Then most likely printed, scanned, and JPEGed, resulting in the inconsistent image quality you see on the images.

I started my own LAP recreation in Illustrator before I was aware that others had already done so. I don't have a font creation program, but such things do exist, and it would have been pretty simple to create the "alien" font, drop it in a font folder, and have gobs of fun writing alien text in circles.

I was convinced by the time I'd recreated only two elements of the LAP that I was wasting my time - there was nothing magical or wonderful about it.
I trashed my files and never looked back.



Well just in case you don't have one and if others want to give it a go....If you remember Macromedia Fontographer..Font creation app..
Way before the Adobe buyout...
This one reminds me of that app but its free....Works in Xp and OSX(ppc and intel)...Been using it for a while now...
http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/
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« Reply #1298 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 4:24pm »

Isn't sad how all this has to be rehashed (again) all because of Tomi? She will never be convinced by any hoax evidence. In a way, she almost acts troll like on this board, making posts sure to illicit a response of frustration. I'm ashamed it took me so long to fully realize what she is actually doing. The LAP is only being spoken of because that is where Tomi's curve ball has lead us.
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« Reply #1299 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 4:32pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 4:24pm, Jeddyhi wrote:
Isn't sad how all this has to be rehashed (again) all because of Tomi? She will never be convinced by any hoax evidence. In a way, she almost acts troll like on this board, making posts sure to illicit a response of frustration. I'm ashamed it took me so long to fully realize what she is actually doing. The LAP is only being spoken of because that is where Tomi's curve ball has lead us.

We can be sure its not her only pitch... wink smiley

DrDil: Just seen that...Thanks for the spot on there... laugh smiley
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« Reply #1300 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 4:53pm »

I continue to enjoy the ride on this skeletal horse. What happened to viral marketing!
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« Reply #1301 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 5:20pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 2:35pm, tomi01uk wrote:
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Are they still being paid?


I'm sure but they do give a great deal of time and consideration to this case outside of billing as well.


Why is that?
Why are they so interested in this case that they would continue to work on it for free?

Also regarding the The 7th Annual UFO Crash Retrieval Conference scheduled for November 6th, 7th, and 8th in Las Vegas, Nevada - 1:30 – 2:30 PM The CARET Detectives: An Investigational Report

are the CARET Detectives the 2 P.I's? (TK Davis and Frank Dixon)



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« Reply #1302 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 5:53pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 4:53pm, Masker33 wrote:
I continue to enjoy the ride on this skeletal horse. What happened to viral marketing!


This is what Tomi is for..Drumming up some interest for that
thingy in November... wink smiley
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« Reply #1303 on: Sep 17th, 2009, 6:32pm »

on Sep 17th, 2009, 4:32pm, Radi wrote:
We can be sure its not her only pitch... wink smiley

DrDil: Just seen that...Thanks for the spot on there... laugh smiley

Not at all Radi, you more than earned it!! That was just a guest-appearance though as your main ‘feature’ is here. grin

Incidentally and as I’ve said before it is impossible to separate Isaac from the LAP & CARET because of the way he represented his position and subsequently the ‘stolen’ documents. When obtaining the links earlier I stumbled across some of my earlier rantings on a page which I still feel raises several important questions regarding specifically the words of Isaac, but more importantly I still believe that there is no way to explain away the discrepancies I raise other than accepting that it ALL is indeed a big fat hoax, a short excerpt about one aspect that still makes me smile when I think about it cheesy:

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Firstly, there's the actual name of it which it is fair to say certainly 'defines' the role of the facility, i.e.
"Commercial Applications Research For Extraterrestrial Technology" (CARET)

Here's a list of some of the earlier government sanctioned bodies dealing with the UFO phenomenon: Brookings Report, Condon Committee, Estimate of the Situation, Project Blue Book, Project Condign, Project Grudge, Project Magnet, Project Sign, Robertson Panel.

Note that these official bodies were convened to simply study the phenomenon and still none of their names betray their purpose, now look at Isaac's department, "Commercial Applications Research For Extraterrestrial Technology".

The clue is in the name!!

Honestly, can you imagine a top secret research programme such as Isaac details, a research project so monumental that if the even existence of it was ever leaked (never mind the findings or their work) then the ramifications would be so great, the implications so far reaching and the humbling, profound and globally collective realisation that there really is 'someone out there' tending the lights in the sky would be so gargantuan that it would effect every intelligent being on the planet, effectively revealing the worst best kept secret ever, would you call this research project the:

"Commercial Applications Research For Extraterrestrial Technology"?


And to further invite incredulity the first part of the quarterly report specifically states what CARET means and what their motivations and goals are.

(Source)

So again as I’ve said before, it’s infinitely more puzzling why intelligent and articulate persons with a long (sometimes life-long) interest in the UFO phenomenon can’t see what I see when I look back on the Drone debacle as it’s painfully obvious there’s no substance or truth of any description to be found. And certainly none which could ever be touted as proof-positive of anything other than how hopeless and fundamentally flawed any aspirations are to promote any kind of unity within the UFO crowd, and even more worryingly this doesn’t account for the many who hold dear what we would term as (UFO) ‘fringe’ beliefs.

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« Reply #1304 on: Sep 18th, 2009, 11:08am »

Brilliantly said as usual DrDil. Yes, it was fundementally flawed, to say the least, for me to think there could be unity in the UFO field.

I will just roll with the punches I suppose. I am just what I say I am and some should know that for certain by now. I've no agenda outside of a keen interest in figuring out who and why about this, if possible.

We have all put a great deal of time into figuring this thing out. I'm probably going to keep looking for clues, and for me it is not a religion or quest for truth about UFO's, it is more a determination to see something to the end that has engaged already so much of my interest. But that is all there is to any agenda I have.
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