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« Reply #1425 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 5:39pm »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 5:27pm, tomi01uk wrote:
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Dang! That's some mighty impressive Goggling skill! If Sysco were here, he'd be envious. So you can't even name a few of the regulars? From any time period?
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« Reply #1426 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 5:41pm »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 5:39pm, tomi01uk wrote:
I am always trying to convince him otherwise. Ever seen the movie Barefoot in the Park.. It hardly does us justice..


Convince him of what? You claimed you had little interest in UFOs other than an occasional read on a list you claimed to be on that you obviously have never seen nor read??
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« Reply #1427 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 5:50pm »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 5:39pm, Double Knit Spy wrote:
Dang! That's some mighty impressive Goggling skill! If Sysco were here, he'd be envious. So you can't even name a few of the regulars? From any time period?


I don't know if he wants the address posted, but here is the current subject going on:
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:09:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Starchild And What Annoys Me About The Sceptics

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« Reply #1428 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 5:52pm »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 5:41pm, TheShadow wrote:
Convince him of what? You claimed you had little interest in UFOs other than an occasional read on a list you claimed to be on that you obviously have never seen nor read??

If you followed anything I've ever said.. I was downloading ufo files from the bbs ages ago. I've always had an interest. Just was never very vocal about it..


Here ! Hot into the In Box: seconds ago:

>grinate: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:18:50 +0100
>Subject: Starchild And What Annoys Me About The Sceptics

>It's not your expressing an opinion which annoys me David. It is
>your _not_ expressing, not just an opinion, but some detailed
>argument about why that opinion is valid.

Dave, No detailed argument is necessary.
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« Reply #1429 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 6:11pm »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 5:32pm, tomi01uk wrote:
drones = fake sightings
Ohare = real sighting

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Any questions........ tongue grin


Is this actually an answer? Do you agree with the statement? Drones are fake, O'Hare was real?
Yes or no works better than images.
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« Reply #1430 on: Sep 21st, 2009, 6:43pm »

So you managed to subscribe in less than two hours, Tomi? Again, impressive.

The problem is Tomi needs to be able to claim she learned of the drones in nearly real time to make her OMF account and other things plausible. Her story way back when was she had no interest in such things, so saying she caught it on C2C or Earthfiles was out. The choice of Updates makes even less sense. Anyway, let's say she was an Updates subscriber as claimed. What does that say about her interest in ufology? Updates is (or was) the more public method of quick communication among the hard core researchers, and most notably the nuts-and-bolts category. How does that square with Tomi's claims over the past couple of years? We all know the answer.
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« Reply #1431 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 12:35am »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 6:43pm, Double Knit Spy wrote:
So you managed to subscribe in less than two hours, Tomi? Again, impressive.

The problem is Tomi needs to be able to claim she learned of the drones in nearly real time to make her OMF account and other things plausible. Her story way back when was she had no interest in such things, so saying she caught it on C2C or Earthfiles was out. The choice of Updates makes even less sense. Anyway, let's say she was an Updates subscriber as claimed. What does that say about her interest in ufology? Updates is (or was) the more public method of quick communication among the hard core researchers, and most notably the nuts-and-bolts category. How does that square with Tomi's claims over the past couple of years? We all know the answer.


Yawn..... rolleyes I have never seen such tendency to rush to conclusion or condemn as I have with you two...
Instead of accusing me of rushing to subscribe.. why don't you do the researcher thing and ask the owner of the list.. In fact, I just might send him this little post of yours to make you look silly... but I'm not that type.

Here's one in my Deleted Items folder from the 20th...

From: KATHY XXXXX <XXXXXX@msn.com>
To: post to ufoupdates <xxxx@XXXXupdateslist.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:33:27 +0000
Subject: Re: Starchild And What Annoys Me About The Sceptics


>From: Dave XXXXXX <XXXXXXXX@talktalk.net>
>To: UFO UpDates <xxxx@XXXXupdateslist.com>
>grinate: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:03:13 +0100
>Subject: Starchild And What Annoys Me About The Sceptics

>What annoys me most about the 'token sceptics' - the doubters
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« Reply #1432 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 04:57am »

Hardened WOW player, yes your husband...why bring him up, you told me he had left you.I recall you mentioned that several times, which has nothing to do with Drones, you also mentioned to Sid sometime ago..you had some money invested in this related to a film or book project, what happened to that?

So apart from shallow background, as even that nice "bloke" as he likes to call people, Kris has, you have a stellar skill in not answering anything, and making sure LMH, the woman you said you had a direct line to, is kept out of the conversation along with the other cohots, your also a liar . As you lied about your involvement with the Reyes group. Remember that?
Who invited you and basically all the others, five weren't there? a draft was made, yet you nor any member can tell us who contributed to what, or was the report already done up, and you part of another sham. Every member of your group, from Numbers to Nemo, The PIs, have all left out any glaring anomalies that would have ended the case..
Who, in full possesion of their faculties would finance such cabal of untruthers..?
So what else have you published we can gleen and hopefully add some substance to your personna. That certainly would go a lot farther than a 2009 post about skeptics.

Yes hardened skeptics questioning a hardened liar..is there some measure of patience , tolerance and compassion, expected here, all in the name of civility and decorum..
Linda lied, you lied, whitley lied.., pad the event with dummy events, its a matter of record..Is there any question you are prepared to answer..
You want to stand up to men..but not the truth..nor for the truth..and yearn to be believed..
I came to correct you on the WOW statement, or slip as I never followed you to a wow thread..just like you slipped and said one saturday morning.."we here in the US" and took a while to respond..I could almost cut thru the silence..a few of us were here and caught that..
Can you hear me now Tomi?




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« Reply #1433 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:06am »

on Sep 22nd, 2009, 04:57am, YourWorstNightmare wrote:
Hardened WOW player, yes your husband...why bring him up, you told me he had left you.I recall you mentioned that several times, which has nothing to do with Drones, you also mentioned to Sid sometime ago..you had some money invested in this related to a film or book project, what happened to that?

I came to correct you on the WOW statement, or slip as I never followed you to a wow thread..just like you slipped and said one saturday morning.."we here in the US" and took a while to respond..I could almost cut thru the silence..a few of us were here and caught that..
Can you hear me now Tomi?






Please show me the context of telling Sidd I had money invested in a film or something like that? Because I never would have said that because I don't !

And just to clarify: Did you ever see the movie called "Alien Autopsy" ? Believe it or not, it is a docu-comedy. Quite funny actually.. Because it re-creates all the misadventures of those two once they aquired those films in the cannisters.

I do remember mentioning to Sidd that I thought a similiar docu-comedy would be a great idea about the drones saga, and I think I suggested to him, if he was going to write anything that would be it.. Or I said to him .. somebody should, it would make a funny movie.

Now that is as FAR away from having money invested as one can get.... so get me some evidence of what you say.. Never have I ever said I had money invested in this.

I never said my husband had left me, however it has been suggested that I in fact should do that to him for the wow playing.. Incidently, when someone is a hardened wow player it's almost the same thing...

Add to that the company he works for moved 80 miles away from London, so there is a second flat now in our lives.. which has made the situation almost estranged... would you like further details of my personal life to use to smear me with or do you think this awful situation is sufficient.. FO.
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« Reply #1434 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:16am »

At least I'm not the only one going through this insufferable bs... rolleyes His being a much higher calibre of course ..

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2009/09/paul-kimball-lance-moody-ufos-and-me.html
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« Reply #1435 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:24am »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 5:32pm, tomi01uk wrote:
drones = fake sightings
Ohare = real sighting

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Any questions........ tongue grin


Is this actually an answer? Do you agree with the statement? Drones are fake, O'Hare was real?
Yes or no works better than images.
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« Reply #1436 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:31am »

on Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:24am, Jeddyhi wrote:
Is this actually an answer? Do you agree with the statement? Drones are fake, O'Hare was real?
Yes or no works better than images.

I would Imagine so.. but how would I know the answer to either question without further information? Based on evidence so far and conjecture.. probably the Ohare sighting was real and the drone saga is contrived.
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Mmm, yes, very curious, very interesting....


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« Reply #1437 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:58am »

on Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:31am, tomi01uk wrote:
I would Imagine so.. but how would I know the answer to either question without further information? Based on evidence so far and conjecture.. probably the Ohare sighting was real and the drone saga is contrived.



I can accept that Tomi. smiley

But there is a difference (even from your stated viewpoint) between “pushing” for a Drone reality and “searching” for some possible truth behind the Drones (as in it could be disinformation or a prelude to disclosure, or even the possibility that one sightings is real).

IMHO, that is the point of division here.



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« Reply #1438 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:00am »

on Sep 21st, 2009, 5:32pm, tomi01uk wrote:
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May I have hash browns with that? grin
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« Reply #1439 on: Sep 22nd, 2009, 07:30am »

on Sep 22nd, 2009, 06:58am, Marvin wrote:
I can accept that Tomi. smiley

But there is a difference (even from your stated viewpoint) between “pushing” for a Drone reality and “searching” for some possible truth behind the Drones (as in it could be disinformation or a prelude to disclosure, or even the possibility that one sightings is real).

IMHO, that is the point of division here.





Well Marvin, I don't know what other actions could demonstrate searching besides the actions I've taken by encouraging equal debate in this matter, and searching for the truth in even a fricking bottle of Leviathan steroids.. apart from taking them myself.. which it seems obvious I might have to do to endure this thread... rolleyes smiley
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