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« Reply #15 on: Jun 17th, 2009, 8:49pm »

As long as this is linked to drones it will take away from the beautiful art..It is beautiful, the retro, and then something more which goes more to psycho evocative art. Transhumanist art as these people are doing..Like this Paul Laffoley. The shapes of nodes and lines was meant, imo, as an artistic expression, some might just say techno art..but in terms of perspective of Laffolley..to associate to evoke provoke imagery at deepest and highest level.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.channel&channelid=78054290 this and his other video quite good.. But shows these are very done ideas..

When I first started on this I saw a lttle of that in the inside imagey..an art device for discovery..

Nothing to do with ETs..but very much for ourselves.
In that sense you get out of it what you see..
now..
All I say..is if want to see this artists other work succeed..the art of these people, then dont link it up with the drones..
Once recognized in the stream of consciousness as a lie, very little can be done. Its beyond..Beyond nurturing and attention..afterthought..and redemption.
Simply repeating same arguments without answering the questions of the first motherload leaves one with just dead weight.
That no one wants.


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« Reply #16 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 04:09am »

Reading everyone's ideas here helps. It always helps, but right now it helps a great deal.

I've got to put more time into making sense out of that site and its associated sites and the interviews. Taking into consideration what everyone has said.

I'm still overwhelmed with the amount of material in the sites and I really cant come to a conclusion yet in my own mind. The reason why I said mother lode is just because there is so much, on first look, Caret like material in there ... Like I said, I need to put a lot more time in looking this over carefullly before getting to any more speculations.

edit to add: Amazingly the email I sent to them has been answered with the invitation to continue correspondence. Because of that I will not post the message here I was sent. I will continue communications with him about this and then share the info I've received, but right now he is saying he knows what is behind this drone business. He could be talking out of his hat or else he could be connected in some way.

The date August 31, 08, it is a year after the drone saga.... gotta think long and hard about this one...
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« Reply #17 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 06:26am »

on Jun 18th, 2009, 04:09am, tomi01uk wrote:
Reading everyone's ideas here helps. It always helps, but right now it helps a great deal.

I've got to put more time into making sense out of that site and its associated sites and the interviews. Taking into consideration what everyone has said.

I'm still overwhelmed with the amount of material in the sites and I really cant come to a conclusion yet in my own mind. The reason why I said mother lode is just because there is so much, on first look, Caret like material in there ... Like I said, I need to put a lot more time in looking this over carefullly before getting to any more speculations.

Yes, there seems a lot of material but it looks, to me anyway, that's it not really "a lot" of LAP and drones. Don't get swayed by the inclusion of some of the LAP fonts on many pages. Intent may be eye candy techno art as a lot of other images they are using.

I can't see the connection beyond the artist(s) borrowing some pieces. The tie-in with this whole affair does not hold together for me. The way they advertised and tried to get the word out about themselves (cards, flyers(?), word of mouth?) does not seem to fit in with what the true motive is. undecided Look how long it took for their site to be found and brought up for discussion.
If they did do it, it looks another failed effort.

I see it just more proof that there are imaginative people out there that can create things that make people go "whoa"! cheesy
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 07:31am »

on Jun 18th, 2009, 04:09am, tomi01uk wrote:
edit to add: Amazingly the email I sent to them has been answered with the invitation to continue correspondence. Because of that I will not post the message here I was sent. I will continue communications with him about this and then share the info I've received, but right now he is saying he knows what is behind this drone business. He could be talking out of his hat or else he could be connected in some way.

The date August 31, 08, it is a year after the drone saga.... gotta think long and hard about this one...


You are aware, that rred participated in the discussions at OMF, are'nt you?
So it is no wonder, that they use one of the fonts, which where "backengineered" there.

I remember him as a very serious guy, who thought about things, before he commented on them.
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 08:07am »

I findi it increduous that all this art has been out there for eons and people are shocked when then they are exposed to it ..I guess that would by that logic expose every artist in that genre as a hoaxter, that happened to use the retro art, including steampunk people and others...
like having ones mom pass away, and everytime we see someone that has her feature, or a bit of her mannerisms. we yell mom. As deep as the feeling may be we are not justified in doing that, but should be just thankful something someone is there to remind us of her..
I say welcome to the human experience, even though we think personally, there is no one like mom or her cooking, and should never think that others merely stole or plagiarized her recipe if you see someone else cook the same.




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« Reply #20 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 08:59am »

What a feeble attempt at stirring interest in a dead hoax. Each of these "exciting revelations" makes it more obvious that the DRT (members, outcasts, "non" members, and so on) have a vested interest in keeping this sad little episode alive.

Ah well, as usual, the DRT tells us more with their BS than anything else.
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 09:22am »

It would seem that there is a need for some to believe and for others a need for attention. And these examples are just the tip of the iceberg. Makes for an assured lemming following, and rightly so if you want to sell a book, or an artifact, some type of UFO gadget, viral marketing etc. I still have copies of my book to sell!
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 09:32am »

It's also just about the only way they have of shifting attention away from Lev & Associates, and the work Sysco has been doing. Sysco's stuff is all about connections, of course, and not "Hey look! Drone symbols!"

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« Reply #23 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 10:50am »

It was a gift.
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« Reply #24 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 11:09am »

Ahh Lev yees Double, as was mentioned earlier the original Church of satan , was actually more conventional in the atheistic tradition, recognizing only man himself as both satan and the Christ, semantics for his ability to choose between the two, and good being basically relative to the choosers., the one that came after was ctuall more like the christions and held that these intelligent entities existed outside them, not in them like some character trait does.

The new age or neo age, as it has evolved to incorporate aspects of every religion, ironically holds that the power is non intelligent, but only exists in some collective consciousness, higher consciousness which we can tap into by ritual practice. exercise, meditation, restricted diets, and of course, sigilistically by mind or artice, intent or desire..,
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This is Virgils or VCI (Virgil Crow Industries) work or astronauts..using them interchangeably as one..he has many irons in the fire..
Is he an immersive artis, well he certainly reaches out to pull you in.

Back on New age, they are incorporating ETs as higher versions , or lower versions, of themselves.. A conenient substitution for old demons and angels.eventually losing itself into a mishmash of possibilities. Nothing is impossible. because we are flawed only because we don't know the right chant, potion, symbol b

I cant say for sure RRed is Lev and or that Crow fellow. whose name was on the registry Astronaut...because that one seems to have traveled all those circles, new age, subgenius,, or that he is Isaac..
only that he is one of many that have used that art..and incorporated

I found a problem with the ifo he gave that the org was at 1313 mockingbird lane in Clearwater..Yes therewas a mockingbird lane in a small almost closed are..but not the number, off by thousands, in fact.

Also the zipcode was for Tampa florida, not clearwater..

The number for contact was taken off the site after I posted about it. o a generic 800/0r 888 number..Meaning they read our work..but was able to ascertain another thing

The number was traced to a mobile with the owner in NY
and I wont give the name , as I paid money for it, out but it was not Virgil Rred Crow walker, . As mobile it means they took that number on the new website with them so its not a reassigned number.

I just have to brush up my spanish..even if they change it now..I have their names..It could be their agents for all I know..But they seemed to have moved even from there to another, a different family is listed at that adress..But the phone owner is still the same.
I am sure they had a reason for doing all this that way.
Does it make them Hoaxters? no..Maybe they don't want to be harassed because they are using once controversial work.
Do they want us to think?
I think so or get lost.

But the symbology or purposes i its use is not unique to VCI or Lev or Mask

One need only look at Ovnis-USA and ici maintenat and its enterprises..and some of its members, who have followed in same tradition..and Didier or SPF or any of themmwould be glad to take Tomi by the hand and explain if they think one can handle the truth..the meaning of all this, why even..we are all here...But I believe she and they know all ready what the gift or secret recipe is .smiley
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If I just see this..itt means nothing just windmill though I note the recurring theme of telepone poles in the pic below
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as here in wall painting..but its a universal symbol found even in fonts, crosses, and Letter T
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However here Virgil loves pizza, but a very special kind..symbolic of universal feeding and energy transferrence read his comment below it..
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which us old timers all remember was a chronic message of our Lev..note the alien hat,,that symbols is not new this work was all done 2001-2004 by the way

then we go back to his dossier or profile
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we see he is a vegan like Lev. he likes old movies ED wood..just like Mask, who kept bringing him up, and pointed to youtube which also had a leveiathan reference in the comentary.
Loves Green UNT red.
he is a father and has a son.

Most not Vegans here..(I am but in name only)But we like ed wood too and many of us are fathers and have sons.
So we can't say yet these three all same, but all three, including DRT have no problem using deception and or distortion as a means to an end.
One might say they were all cut from the same cloth.

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« Reply #25 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 1:17pm »

Now with this new revelation, does the Hydra spout a new head or is it just the same old hoax with a bit of life left in it! grin
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« Reply #26 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 1:26pm »

I actually like this ones head of hydra honesty here as to his beliefs..
To Jay Brooks:

My Opinion:

1) Gods, Goddesses, Devils and Demons are all humankind’s imaginative expression of things unknowable.

2) Religion is a set of guidelines to follow in order to grasp dynamics that cant be fully understood. Religion is earth bound not divine. Spiritual awareness is not always the goal of Religion, control usually is.

3) I love Jesus, I love Buddha, I love Muhammad and yes I even love Jay Brooks, for each is a manifestation of the source and center of all things.

Thank you for your comments.


You must Add LMH and Whitley as well as them warners and fox , like the many eyes of the snakes on medusas head, anywhich one of you looked could turn you to stone..all want your attention..all are on the same head..even though each think different..

we are the Pizza and they like Pizza too
I just want to know why Lev delivered pizza at the Terminator Trailer on TV..I didnt know he did takeouts
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 1:30pm »

on Jun 18th, 2009, 1:17pm, Masker33 wrote:
Now with this new revelation, does the Hydra spout a new head or is it just the same old hoax with a bit of life left in it! grin

If you mean of the ‘Lernaean’ variety then somewhat coincidentally considering your ‘opinion’ Heracles (who killed the abomination) called on his nephew for backup and who ultimately provided the solution to completing his second labour.

Which is similar to what I believe members are attempting to be accomplish on these threads, (i.e. using fire to scorch the neck-stumps after decapitation and thus preventing renewed growth kiss).

(Also -and again coincidentally- the Hydra allegedly had *9* heads.....)

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« Reply #28 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 1:40pm »

on Jun 18th, 2009, 1:30pm, DrDil wrote:
If you mean of the ‘Lernaean’ variety then somewhat coincidentally considering your ‘opinion’ Heracles (who killed the abomination) called on his nephew for backup and who ultimately provided the solution to completing his second labour.

Which is similar to what I believe members are attempting to be accomplish on these threads, (i.e. using fire to scorch the neck-stumps after decapitation and thus preventing renewed growth kiss).

(Also -and again coincidentally- the Hydra allegedly had *9* heads.....)

Cheers. wink


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That was cool.
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« Reply #29 on: Jun 18th, 2009, 2:00pm »

Nor was this beast easy prey, for one of the nine heads was immortal and therefore indestructible.
Let's not forget that part.
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