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« Reply #180 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:19pm »

Grown up as a catholic, there is nothing new in this herder/sheep analogy. But they prefered to tell us the story about the lost sheep, which was found back.

Nobody told me, that sheep tastes so good! Reminds me to a restaurant on a summit right now. tongue
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« Reply #181 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:23pm »

Ramush makes the best Leg of Lamb too!! on that Summit.. grin He told me about the silly vegetarians looking for ufos one day. Cheapskates he said..
Allah Bless Deer Creek Restaurant..!!
Woohoo!

PS I like this Sidd.. wink
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« Reply #182 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:26pm »

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6165305576181681554

Interesting the "human potential movement"...

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« Reply #183 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:33pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 12:38pm, Masker33 wrote:
Tomi, there is a human based Illumanati...no question. Legend has it that there is a supernatural component. I have no doubt that an invisible college exists also. We sheep really do belong to something else and are guarded and moved from pasture to pasture. The trick is few believe it and it can be played out in all media without any hindrance to the owners of us all.
As Charles Fort said, humans are owned by something.

And yet more riddles…..

A little tiresome, but go on then, I'll play. grin

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:05pm, Masker33 wrote:
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Things like the Drones (hoax or whatever) and many mundane things are methods of control or manipulation of the herd. I really can see this ownership as being apart from a religious argument.

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If ownership is not asserted, verified or claimed then how is it ownership?

Or perhaps more importantly how does it differ from good ‘ole fashioned paranoia?

(I know, I know, it doesn’t mean they’re not after you).....

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:05pm, Masker33 wrote:
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Things like the Drones (hoax or whatever) and many mundane things are methods of control or manipulation of the herd. I really can see this ownership as being apart from a religious argument.

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A darker view of religion would show this as would views of many things.

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If it’s apart from religion then why would a darker view of religion show it?

What do you mean, “As would views of many things?”

Do you mean how “Many things” would appear if looked at with a “darker view”?

Isn’t a view merely a constant, with the difference being how what we view is interpreted?

Surely we all ‘view’ the same things but ultimately we just perceive them differently?

So in that case wouldn’t the “Darkness” merely be in the eye of the beholder?

And if so then wouldn’t this “Darkness” be little more than a character-flaw of those who view and ultimately categorise what they view as such?

Perhaps as Tomi has recently seen the light (after two years kiss) then she would explain…..

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« Reply #184 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:34pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:26pm, tomi01uk wrote:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6165305576181681554

Interesting the "human potential movement"...

hmmmm wink


The net is full of that potential stuff, the secret, new age stuff..its just revamped new age..instead of psychedelic..its psychotronic..Even Mark Cater pushes that..Most of your co members at DRT are into that ..
I think I saw Iamiamiam mane associated with that self realization stuff..
Even Kabbalistic jews into that..an offshoot..has madonna hooked..lets not talk Tom Cruise...
At least Raeleans are honset..they like sex..uninhibited under the stars I guess., no astrology or fenshui necessary.
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« Reply #185 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:39pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:19pm, SiddReader wrote:
Grown up as a catholic, there is nothing new in this herder/sheep analogy. But they prefered to tell us the story about the lost sheep, which was found back.

Nobody told me, that sheep tastes so good! Reminds me to a restaurant on a summit right now. tongue

Heh, heh, I was ‘dragged’ up as a Catholic as well!!

Doesn’t that particular story involve forsaking the entire flock to search out the solitary lamb? I always thought that was a little excessive, in the real world the shepherd would have returned to find his entire flock missing due to trying to retrieve just one lamb…..

(Beware of the surly bartender/waiter!!)

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But nothing lasts forever..

But nothing IS forever...... wink

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« Reply #186 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:41pm »

My responce was for Tomi.

It has been said before that the UFO experience is a control, one of many, for human development. This is not new. Very little is new as is said here. As you all know UFO like images spread through out history in many ways. It is all the same thing. The debate on all UFO phenomena is really over and the outcome can be understood. Sheep, goats, shepherds, wolves and a way out. I suppose the way out is the important part for me.

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« Reply #187 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:54pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:41pm, Masker33 wrote:
My responce was for Tomi.

It has been said before that the UFO experience is a control, one of many, for human development. This is not new. Very little is new as is said here. As you all know UFO like images spread through out history in many ways. It is all the same thing. The debate on all UFO phenomena is really over and the outcome can be understood. Sheep, goats, shepherds, wolves and a way out. I suppose the way out is the important part for me.


The problem with that approach is as you keep saying that this train of thought applies whether the Drones are hoaxed or not is nonsensical, I appreciate what you are saying as it’s much the same as Keel & Vallee espouse but how would this control-system apply at all if it’s a human construct?

I.e. a human engineered hoax?

Surely once you start viewing hoaxes as a control system then ultimately you are knowingly relinquishing any perceived control to what is simply another human?

Collective consciousness aside then aren’t you doing yourself a massive disservice by discounting the origins of the broader UFO phenomenon?

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« Reply #188 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:54pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:34pm, Sys_Config wrote:
The net is full of that potential stuff, the secret, new age stuff..its just revamped new age..instead of psychedelic..its psychotronic..Even Mark Cater pushes that..Most of your co members at DRT are into that ..
I think I saw Iamiamiam mane associated with that self realization stuff..
Even Kabbalistic jews into that..an offshoot..has madonna hooked..lets not talk Tom Cruise...
At least Raeleans are honset..they like sex..uninhibited under the stars I guess., no astrology or fenshui necessary.


There is a eschalon in this..
http://www.commonpassion.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=55&Itemid=71
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« Reply #189 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:59pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:41pm, Masker33 wrote:
My responce was for Tomi.

It has been said before that the UFO experience is a control, one of many, for human development. This is not new. Very little is new as is said here. As you all know UFO like images spread through out history in many ways. It is all the same thing. The debate on all UFO phenomena is really over and the outcome can be understood. Sheep, goats, shepherds, wolves and a way out. I suppose the way out is the important part for me.


In a particular calendar May 07 had particular significance .. trying to find the name of this time frame.. it meant something to consciousness awakening.. didn't it?
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« Reply #190 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 3:05pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:54pm, DrDil wrote:
The problem with that approach is as you keep saying that this train of thought applies whether the Drones are hoaxed or not is nonsensical, I appreciate what you are saying as it’s much the same as Keel & Vallee espouse but how would this control-system apply at all if it’s a human construct?

I.e. a human engineered hoax?

Surely once you start viewing hoaxes as a control system then ultimately you are knowingly relinquishing any perceived control to what is simply another human?

Collective consciousness aside then aren’t you doing yourself a massive disservice by discounting the origins of the broader UFO phenomenon?

Cheers.


This group came from Esalen as well:
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/
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« Reply #191 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 3:10pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 2:33pm, DrDil wrote:
Perhaps as Tomi has recently seen the light (after two years kiss) then she would explain…..

Cheers.


I think I have seen some light, a fragment of understanding. And yet I could be totally wrong.

But one thing I do know thanks to Mask et al.. wink
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« Reply #192 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 3:17pm »

You want quality.. ufo research?
It doesn't get any better than this..

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=peter+sturrock+esalen+institute&meta=&aq=f&oq=
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« Reply #193 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 3:57pm »

All this is is links to schools of thought..not one has a shred of ET antigrav, ET metal, evidence post WWII, korea. post Vietnam post Iraq post Aghanistan..that the US has anything other than some smart cookies, which it got through a steady infusion of inventors and scientists from around the world, who saw thru the veil of BS in their own countries and made it over here...
The one country who got esoteric and astrological was Hiler..and didn't do a xxxxed bit of good, or the kings of Voodoo in Haiti..with centuries of african chrisian, didnt help papa doc any or even yet..
There might even be an anti religious bent to this whole thing..if you go by IA, cetrtainly even Laffoyel..like those self empowering groups..all seem to look at themselves as Godheads..you are ultimate creator..

I like Sids take..entertainment..it fits better than the rest of the stuff I am seeing so far and no one can touch his insight. Because it has no redeeming value I can find ..other than to fit that purpose..even if unintended.

With all the intuitives, buddhists, Urantians, new agers, save the Earth or get off it people at DRT , Tomi would be more versed than just coming across this now..or have seen the BS early on..
With all the thousands Panels, conferences, prayers, meditations, of remote viewers paying good money, and all the old time crystal ball artistes..Not one shread of evidence..of anything..but thousands of dvds movies and books..about the talk..Lets talk about the talk..and see who else out there is talking the talk..look here are ten thousand more links about the talk..
As far as this hoax..nobody but here..why is that..
Thats whats going on here right now.

entertaining talk.
and without Sid to add humor..not even worth talking about .

Note to Double..Wait for me..I'm right behind you..










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« Reply #194 on: Jun 23rd, 2009, 4:06pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2009, 3:57pm, Sys_Config wrote:
Tomi would be more versed than just coming across this now..or have seen the BS early on..

No, only over the past 3 or 4 days I've been trying to take this all in and make sense out of it. Like I said, I could be totally wrong.
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