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« Reply #645 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 11:59am »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 10:29am, signetprotocol wrote:
Ok, so the Internal astronaut folks are hoaxers of the hoax. Why so much dam detail and time in doing so? Is Virgil Crow the Tome fellow? I cant seem to find what possible motivation he could have for this act. There isnt even a store on the site to sell things. Mental illness perhaps? The site says ephemeral virgil crow.

http://www.internalastronaut.com/inner.htm

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« Reply #646 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 12:09pm »

Kenray,

I googled your name and "fishing expedition", like you said, and found your synopsis of events. In it you say:

"As a professional designer, I can testify that the Issac/CARET documents are, as a unit, a near-unparalleled achievement in graphic design Đ worth hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of professional billable hours."

And as a professional designer, I can tell you that I think you're full of it.
I was initially impressed with the LAP myself - until I started recreating them in Adobe Illustrator. It's actually pretty lazy, design-wise. Lots and lots and lots of cut-and-paste repetition. And through my experience as a graphic designer, I know that it always takes me 5 times the amount of time to back-engineer and recreate somebody else's art than it initially took to create it. So it probably wasn't the near-impossible task that it appears to be on the surface.

I also believe I have enough evidence to prove that the LAP was created in Illustrator - which did not exist in 1986. There are other individuals who've also produced proof that they were created in Illustrator.

Out of curiosity, how long have you been a professional designer?
Were you designing professionally before computers took over the industry?

And hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of billable hourshuh
Where do you workhuh - Are you accepting applications? laugh




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« Reply #647 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 1:03pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 11:39am, Kenray wrote:
The Event was a fishing expedition (search my name and "fishing expedition" if you've not read that epic)

Isaac is pushing up daisies, and unless someone else made it through the exit door with evidence, the story is over.




Hi Kenray,

I understand your point of a “fishing expedition.”

But to buy into that line of thinking, Isaac must be the fish in this case.

If one follows what happens, from Chad to Isaac, Isaac is the fish and the Drones are the bait… then there would have to be some reality to:

1. The Drone components and the Drone vehicle itself.

2. The Caret quarterly report released by Isaac.

3. The individual photos that were released by Isaac (which were also in the quarterly report).

It is interesting to note that Isaac did not just “tip his hand” or give him (or her) self away (and if you recall… was very confident they could not be caught, another issue with the Isaac story, IMO), but Isaac added to the story (and very much was apart of the story).

Isaac claimed to be in management at PACL – Caret. That would have given Isaac access to an uncensored copy of the quarterly report (what good is a censored copy to the group who are actually working on the project??). The copy Isaac shared was censored. That copy did not carry any markings of being sensitive (or having restricted access)… a second question as to why it would be censored. In the reportedly high controlled environment that Isaac claims this stuff to be in (remember the guard with the machine gun in every room?), it just does not make any sense. There is no such thing as an uncontrolled document for internal use only in the kind of environment Isaac described. Either this stuff was extremely sensitive and controlled… or it wasn’t. If this was neither sensitive nor controlled, that would destroy the heart of Isaac’s story (meaning it is fake).

On further scrutiny, the photos of the components are CGI. As pointed out by Saladfingers (Kris Avery), the shadowing of the components are CGI renders (if you enlarge these photos, you will see the issue… the shadow is not solid but more dot like).

Truly, Isaac fits the same “mold” as the rest of the Drone story.

Isaac isn’t dead… Isaac is laughing (which is the meaning of the name).

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« Reply #648 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 1:15pm »

The embers glow again!!!
Tomi, what have we wrought!
A way to show, but few to know.
The one that seemed ancient is the key. Well shown with trees added in!
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« Reply #649 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 2:02pm »

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Personally it seems more like you're simply resigning yourself to the inevitability of your belief and subsequently becoming submissive (as it seems your world-view dictates ) rather than a control system of any description, or perhaps at best a projection of control by the beholder which really is a contradiction as the control which is perceived is merely that which the beholder allows and so isn’t really -external- control at all, is it?


"NOW THAT WOULD BE TELLING"
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« Reply #650 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 3:13pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 1:15pm, Masker33 wrote:
The embers glow again!!!
Tomi, what have we wrought!
A way to show, but few to know.
The one that seemed ancient is the key. Well shown with trees added in!
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Hi Masker,

And still no elaboration on your opinion(s) is forthcoming…..

I think that you may be mistaking the fact that others are participating in a conversation (however one-sided) for the prophetic phoenix rising from the ashes or -rising from- as Doubles eloquently phrased it: A few smoldering bits of plastic at the bottom of what was once an impressive bonfire”.

To be honest the contradictory nature of your words and actions is there for everyone to see, you claim it’s a hoax then bestow praise and mysterious machinations on the hoaxers claiming that there is some underlying constant which is exerting control. You say you wish the topic would die and then post when no-one else is, then when others join in you insinuate that it was planned this way and yet most of the members who post here have been around for the duration without the luxury of months away at a time before returning to post the same old tired cryptic comments, all the while implying that there is more to this than you have already previously stated was actually involved.

I assume that, “Seemed” is the operative word in the following quote:

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 1:15pm, Masker33 wrote:
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The one that seemed ancient is the key.

Seemed: Appear to be something. Used to express uncertainty.

Speaking of which, it seems to me like you have more invested in perpetuating the hoax than anyone else who regularly posts and as for ‘myth-status,’ well….. It also seems that you’ve appointed yourself chief-manufacturer of the envisaged modern-myth, a status which in my opinion will never be attained, of course this may be merely a sub-conscious motivation on your behalf but it manifests itself regularly enough to be qualified as such (i.e. a motivation).

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 2:02pm, Masker33 wrote:
"NOW THAT WOULD BE TELLING"

Actually, the text you quoted was more rhetoric in nature, a statement if you like but nevertheless your constant refusal to elaborate on your ‘opinion/s’ speaks volumes more than any of your earlier comments (IMO wink).

Lastly I couldn’t help but notice you removed my blatant show of affection from the comment you quoted.....

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« Reply #651 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 4:42pm »

As I remember:"Now that would be telling" is an oft used phrase from the Prisoner. This series and to some degree The Avengers can be a light hearted look at my opinion of the Drone saga. Yes, the perceiver probably does created the perceived. Just think of me as being fickle and unsure of my knowledge on this and all will be well with you.

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« Reply #652 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 5:13pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 4:42pm, Masker33 wrote:
As I remember:"Now that would be telling" is an oft used phrase from the Prisoner. This series and to some degree The Avengers can be a light hearted look at my opinion of the Drone saga. Yes, the perceiver probably does created the perceived. Just think of me as being fickle and unsure of my knowledge on this and all will be well with you.

Be seeing you.


Now you’ve shattered my illusions as I thought you meant the classic tune!! (“I'll be seeing you in all the old familiar places”)

What do you want?
Information.

Whose side are you on?
That would be telling. We want information.

Who is Number One?

I’m not a number, I’m a free man.

I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, de-briefed, or numbered.

My life is my own.


on Jul 22nd, 2009, 4:42pm, Masker33 wrote:
Be seeing you.


In time old friend, in time…..
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« Reply #653 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 5:19pm »

Our friend 33 has an icy feel. grin
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« Reply #654 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 5:35pm »

One must obey rules in a situation where one may profit eventually from obeying those rules. The Drone would have fit very nicely into the Prisoner Scheme. Maybe as the carrier of the White Ball. Times, they have changed. The Village soon coming to an area near you.
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« Reply #655 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 6:05pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 1:15pm, Masker33 wrote:
The embers glow again!!!
Tomi, what have we wrought!
A way to show, but few to know.
The one that seemed ancient is the key. Well shown with trees added in!
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A little Chaos ... wink

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« Reply #656 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 7:57pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 6:05pm, tomi01uk wrote:
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As ELO rarely gets mentioned I guess it’s an opportune moment to mention one of their album covers which is vaguely reminiscent of something, can’t quite put my finger on it though, but I think it’s something to do with the symbols and the segmented circles as it’s so strikingly unique and (I think laugh) unprecedented…..

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« Reply #657 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 9:40pm »

I wonder what would happen if you were to play that backwards. grin
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on Jul 22nd, 2009, 7:57pm, DrDil wrote:
As ELO rarely gets mentioned I guess it’s an opportune moment to mention one of their album covers which is vaguely reminiscent of something, can’t quite put my finger on it though, but I think it’s something to do with the symbols and the segmented circles as it’s so strikingly unique and (I think laugh) unprecedented…..

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« Reply #659 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 07:34am »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 7:57pm, DrDil wrote:
As ELO rarely gets mentioned I guess it’s an opportune moment to mention one of their album covers which is vaguely reminiscent of something, can’t quite put my finger on it though, but I think it’s something to do with the symbols and the segmented circles as it’s so strikingly unique and (I think laugh) unprecedented…..

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