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« Reply #765 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 07:42am »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 07:29am, ElijahTome wrote:
Sidd,

The point you have made is so very pertinent and insightful. It matters not who or what created the game and to what agenda may have been followed, It matters only that it has moved you and many others to question the very fabric of said reality/illusion. grin

This is so very important!


Elijah.... Virgil Crow before 2007 was different..
He has gone over the top about this as well..
(not unlike many of us..)
There are two possibilities here:

Your group is a stringer to this matter or your group is just as interested in figuring this out as we are and you are stringers here. It's one or the other.. Because you have curiosity at your core.....

There are real elements to this... That no amount of conjuration can explain... only vested interests can explain..
Now who is Jack?
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« Reply #766 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 07:47am »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 07:33am, ElijahTome wrote:
I guess many would say that Elijah is Tweedledee and Virgil is Tweedledum? I can live with it i suppose. wink


Well if that was the case you both would be afraid of crows..

BTW... The alien writing in District 9 looks very similiar to the alien writing that V C used prior to 2007...
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« Reply #767 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 08:37am »

Maybe this is too late... grin


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« Reply #768 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 11:00am »

Try as you might you can’t kill it, from a small piece of tail a large lizard is reborn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xW2xKDJoL4

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« Reply #769 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 12:30pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 07:26am, ElijahTome wrote:
You are as responsible for its continuation as any other. We are all part of the manifestation herein.


Yes, of course. I wanted to be part of it. It is no fun, to watch others play.
Only when I started the "Psychology of a hoax"-text, I saw, that I could not be as objective as I wanted to be, since I already was too deeply involved. Talking about it again, I wonder, if I can fix this by honesty...

Nice monsters, Gort! Gozilla was one of the first films I watched with my friends at the cinema. It already was an oldy back than. I loved it, especially Godzilla's son.

That's another handicap I have with Isaac: I love SciFi and even more tricksters. Yes, I am a fan. And I think, I would have earned some funny end.
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« Reply #770 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 1:31pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 12:30pm, SiddReader wrote:
Yes, of course. I wanted to be part of it. It is no fun, to watch others play.
Only when I started the "Psychology of a hoax"-text, I saw, that I could not be as objective as I wanted to be, since I already was too deeply involved. Talking about it again, I wonder, if I can fix this by honesty...

Nice monsters, Gort! Gozilla was one of the first films I watched with my friends at the cinema. It already was an oldy back than. I loved it, especially Godzilla's son.

That's another handicap I have with Isaac: I love SciFi and even more tricksters. Yes, I am a fan. And I think, I would have earned some funny end.



Sidd...

I knew there was a reason why I like you.. I am an old (heavy on old) SciFi fan... I remember when "Attack of the Crab Monsters" and "The Blob" weren't old movies.

There are those of us who see Science Fiction and say, wow, wouldn’t that be cool if it were real… vs. those who see it and believe it is real.

I long for the good ole days, when even children knew the difference.

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« Reply #771 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 1:46pm »

Hey Tomi,

Just for the record, clowns...

The Drone story is being turned into a real three ring circus, don’t you think?

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« Reply #772 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 2:43pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 1:46pm, Marvin wrote:
Hey Tomi,

Just for the record, clowns...

The Drone story is being turned into a real three ring circus, don’t you think?



Was thinking how much this has taught me about moving through an event where everyone sees it differently.
Artists and designers have lauded the material, even copied it, yet others disagree. Scientists and engineers found brilliant relevence in it, others didn't. Nothing can be proven to be real but still defies replication in every other means (even that is up for debate..)... So this was a circus to begin with. What is most worrying to me is that there will come a time when group think overcomes the aspects of this case that in total make it what it is that still keeps us wondering..
Because then cynicism will win over finding out the truth in this.
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« Reply #773 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 3:07pm »

I can give you my opinion for what it's worth. I wish it a speedy death in the very near future and to hear no more till someone can bring the original blowhards that brought this to the extreme it has and get's some real answers! It's getting to be a real waste of band width and very, very boring!

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« Reply #774 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 3:30pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 3:07pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
I can give you my opinion for what it's worth. I wish it a speedy death in the very near future and to hear no more till someone can bring the original blowhards that brought this to the extreme it has and get's some real answers! It's getting to be a real waste of band width and very, very boring!

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Except the problem here again.. what you call boring is a lot of the leg work to get to the bottom of things. A lot is nonsense or entanglements, but then some of it just might be relevent. I keep my eye open on everything wink.. much to the dismay of .. let's face it.. a huge majority tongue
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« Reply #775 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:15pm »

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The most interesting aspect was, that the hoaxer soon wasn't needed anymore. Once initiated, the game developed itself. Much better than any adventure game.


BINGO.

Magik at its finest.
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« Reply #776 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:34pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 2:43pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Artists and designers have lauded the material, even copied it, yet others disagree.

Scientists and engineers found brilliant relevence in it, others didn't.

Nothing can be proven to be real but still defies replication in every other means (even that is up for debate..)...



First point, I can’t really argue with - it's art.

Second point, speaking as an engineer, I disagree with. There is no substance in the Isaac report. Science fiction does not make it real now or in the future. Too many what if, could be, sort of similar, etc. It cannot stand on it's own. Brilliant relevance itself is subjective and proves nothing.

Third point, how can you possibly say it defies replication? You keep raising the bar on what is acceptable to you as a repro. HPO’s work blows away that ant-gravity thing. It looks too good. rolleyes It has been beaten to death that it is harder to duplicate exactly then create. One thing that should be quite obvious is that there are hundreds of professionals capable of any of this type work (CGI, drawing, etc.) not to mention the thousands of unknown amateurs.

Yes, this is a circus sideshow now with wannabe puppet masters coming out of the woodwork to contribute smoke, mirrors, and trying to pass themselves off as mystical characters. They try to tout the interest in finding the hoaxsters as some pre-conceived plan. Peddle some agenda that not one of them wants to really identify for some strange reason.
It does not really matter because none of them are real to me and I realize that was intended. rolleyes
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« Reply #777 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:44pm »

Well, I really can't go through arguing again about the merits of the material against the reproductions. It's been beaten to death.. but still recognised by some that there is no way to have put the lighting effects given to that picture esp back in 2007, but still now, unreplicated by HPO and SPF. But I will go further and say that the wear and grimey areas in the small crevices and edges of the orig would take (yet again) more extrodinary effort to produce.. and whyhuh Esp if as you say.. HPO's looks much better.. cool But I can't argue this anymore even I'm wearing thin on it now .. wink
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« Reply #778 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:48pm »

But we are here to beat it to death. That is the plan. grin

So you say the software to do the lighting effects was not available in 2007? That's not what I heard.
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« Reply #779 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:49pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2009, 5:34pm, Katterfelto wrote:
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Yes, this is a circus sideshow now with wannabe puppet masters coming out of the woodwork to contribute smoke, mirrors, and trying to pass themselves off as mystical characters. They try to tout the interest in finding the hoaxsters as some pre-conceived plan. Peddle some agenda that not one of them wants to really identify for some strange reason.

It does not really matter because none of them are real to me and I realize that was intended. rolleyes

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My sentiments exactly…..

on Jun 27th, 2009, 4:00pm, DrDil wrote:

From what I can see then the only Drone affiliation you have is self-imposed by copying a couple of symbols from a hoaxed/highly questionable document nearly a year after the fact, well, of course and the affiliation that you are trying to create here but it appears that if you’re destined to be as unsuccessful with this attempt as you were when you originally plagiarised the symbols.

Go figure.....


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