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« Reply #1365 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 7:25pm »

Well...I do need your advice - everybody.

I have been working on this and made the following finds, but I will not post them here if it's not appropriate.

And blackwater, I too worked with Sys on ATS on the artwork, brushes, pipeline pig, curved red bending bars, and so on right from the beginning.

If you all here say not to post what I found, as in "we're not interested - move along," well then I will find another place and no harm done.


-I have found a graphic artist with his own business in the area of CA. where the dronehoax photos were composited and conspicuously close the locations that were found.

-He has linkage to "Android" Andrew Jones and similar online artwork background themes.

-He has his own established graphic/art/web business and his own website.

-He uses the LAP/DeviantART brushes to a greater degree than most and are prominent in the header of his website and the art his company's website.

-His first name is the same as the guy who started all this online back in June/July 2007.


So my question is this:

What do I do with this interconnecting information I found?

I even have a personal/business name, address, phone number and a google earth location and street photo but do not want to invade a person's privacy legally or otherwise.

Of course, I am entertaining calling the person directly come Monday on business and would probably just ask him honestly and flat-out about knowledge of the CA. drones and was that his artwork...appeal to his sense of creativity and all that.

Thanks for your input and please don't think of me as 'batshit crazy.'

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« Reply #1366 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 9:15pm »

Klat, congrats on pursuing for the cause or at least admitting to it grin

I post here because I know others will dig when they need to procastinate from doing something else...

Also, I know the pi's and others probably monitor this thread and it keeps everything out for a record of referral for all of us.

Besides that, when I post my finds, it annoys Gort and I have found a new friend in Gort, who never disappoints responding back to my posts. smiley

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« Reply #1367 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 9:31pm »

Well Tomi, I DO admit to seriously trying to find the truth as I have the time to do so except my health isn't what it could be...

Sys - who I can't find either and I'm getting concerned - myself, and a few others on ATS and thereabouts were looking for any and all of the real persons, and you are too from what you are saying.

That can only be good IMHO.

There has been so much bad blood, tempers, and ranting, and sidetracking here and there that I don't know who will have a short fuse and where to post facts/finds for like-minded interested determined folks.

I trusted Sys on a personal and private basis along with his drone/LAP-related collection on the ATS archives; he would have understood and helped.

what to do...what to do...
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« Reply #1368 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 9:40pm »

I was careful about putting info out about the IA guys, etc, that could expose the person or affect their business. So, there are details I do not post that I find.

If there is art or something they have put out publicly, that has triggered your detection.. then why not post what is offered publicly already?
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« Reply #1369 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 9:42pm »

on Jan 9th, 2010, 9:15pm, tomi01uk wrote:
Also, I know the pi's and others probably monitor this thread and it keeps everything out for a record of referral for all of us.



BTW Tomi,

Are the PI's actually still working on the paid case, or are they working pro bono or in their spare time on this?

And could you give me the link again to the audio for the PI's public presentation last year if it's still available?

Thanx.
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« Reply #1370 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 9:46pm »

on Jan 9th, 2010, 9:42pm, Klatunictobarata wrote:
BTW Tomi,

Are the PI's actually still working on the paid case, or are they working pro bono or in their spare time on this?

And could you give me the link again to the audio for the PI's public presentation last year if it's still available?

Thanx.


All I can tell you on that Klat, is the PI's have the philosophy "never give up". So, their interest, paid or not, is as strong I'm sure as ours.

As I don't know the business arrangements, I can't say about paid, but I can say, if you find something... everyone will probably jump for you. smiley

I saw that drdil had a link on his blog for their presentation and I think if you use this thread, going back to Nov 10th the link I put up will be there too.
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« Reply #1371 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 9:54pm »

Hi Klat, my advice for what itís worth. I donít see harm in posting a URL only since it is public. Care would then have to be taken by those discussing it. Check with DrDil, he knows this stuff. That may relieve you of contacting them yourself.
Since you seem hesitant not to infringe on anyoneís privacy and expose them to a public forum tells me that I canít in good faith suggest you do anything more public you feel not right. It would seem OK in contacting them and inquiring about the artwork in a friendly manner i.e., the resemblance to the Isaac material and was curious if that was the inspiration. Basically, that is the truth. It may lead into having to discuss how some are trying to establish prior similar works, etc. Itís difficult to predict responses and how the inquiry would go. Perhaps an Email to them would be best and less stressful. There may be no connection at all and they may even welcome some exposure. They may think the person is crazy too! grin
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« Reply #1372 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 10:45pm »

Thanks for the feedback Katt and Tomi.

What I really wish for is to be able to work with someone privately through PMs-emails-phone- and having another like-minded brain to bounce things off of first...someone with mutual respect and a deep sense of the here and now, not getting into all of the new age hyper-dimensional stuff which has nothing to do with what we are looking for...before just throwing things out to the wolves which basically has been going on. I could have done this very nicely with Sys.

Yea, I know; I could contact the PI's myself but I have a problem with doing that philosophically...

Besides, didn't the famous Telephone pole get located by one dedicated smart individual and not by the PI's? And I prefer to steer clear of the DRT for a vast variety of reasons.

I'm still mulling this over...trust and respect is sometimes an elusive quality to find.
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« Reply #1373 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 11:10pm »

Integrity is what is important too. I've shared my details with others out there because it is very difficult to work on this case alone.

Others give strength of purpose and support or try to tell you when it doesn't seem to fit. Anyway, a lot of ppl here you can trust and the pi's are all about trust and never giving up as well.
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« Reply #1374 on: Jan 9th, 2010, 11:27pm »

Hey Klat
I remember you from ATS, my name on there is freelance_zenarchist. I don't see any harm in posting some url's or images, or someones name if it's on their website. Home phone number and address might be a bit much.

Have you found anything by this artist that pre-dates the Isaac release and looks like it's the same artwork, or done by the same person? I would be interested in discussing that with you if you'd like, that's something I'm always looking out for. Feel free to pm me about anything.
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« Reply #1375 on: Jan 10th, 2010, 02:58am »

Hi Klat,

As Tomi said the PI audio is available here.

I also tried to contact Sys when I seen your message on ATS on the other (small) thread a couple of days ago but like you Iíve had no word back yet.

Cheers. smiley
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« Reply #1376 on: Jan 12th, 2010, 6:32pm »

Ok, after the location of the Alabama Drone was found in Cochran, Ga. Something sparked my interest. The pine needles in that image reminded me of what I once saw in a fake drone/pole combo posted by a Leviathan6 back in June 2007 on OMF. He eventually blew up the drone real big that same day. But thatís another matter. rolleyes

The photo below on the left is that now famous Cochran drone. The middle image is one that a Leviathan6 posted. The image on the right shows a pole I found while strolling down Golden Isle Hwy (2nd St). It seemed like a good place to start because I was applying the strategy of the inverse Russian proverb that one catches more fish with a net than a pole. (Maybe this should be in the humor section!) grin

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This is the path I followed and below it is the pole location. I stink at Google Maps and I canít be 100% sure of this pole but the pine trees and pole styles are consistent with that stretch along 2nd street.
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Makes one wonder what else is around that area.
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« Reply #1377 on: Jan 12th, 2010, 7:47pm »

on Jan 12th, 2010, 6:32pm, Katterfelto wrote:
Ok, after the location of the Alabama Drone was found in Cochran, Ga. Something sparked my interest. The pine needles in that image reminded me of what I once saw in a fake drone/pole combo posted by a Leviathan6 back in June 2007 on OMF. He eventually blew up the drone real big that same day. But thatís another matter. rolleyes

The photo below on the left is that now famous Cochran drone. The middle image is one that a Leviathan6 posted. The image on the right shows a pole I found while strolling down Golden Isle Hwy (2nd St). It seemed like a good place to start because I was applying the strategy of the inverse Russian proverb that one catches more fish with a net than a pole. (Maybe this should be in the humor section!) grin

This is the path I followed and below it is the pole location. I stink at Google Maps and I canít be 100% sure of this pole but the pine trees and pole styles are consistent with that stretch along 2nd street.
Makes one wonder what else is around that area.


Good find Katt...Who knows..Might even see Lev on a sidewalk with a camera in front of that building with the small airplane in front of it ....Kiddie-corner from the first pole....Or maybe by his house... grin smiley
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« Reply #1378 on: Jan 12th, 2010, 11:42pm »

WTG ! Wonder where "the farm" might be from there?
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« Reply #1379 on: Jan 13th, 2010, 06:54am »

It may be time to get the mini protractor out and start connecting some more dots.
Too funny, the forgotten little drone in Alabama that was not. grin
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