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xx Re: Drone Discussion #10
« Reply #675 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 05:03am »

The harsh reality here is that this whole matter of persuing copyright infringement for the LAP is viable for a lawfirn to take interest in only because Dell/AW have resources. No lawfirm would pick a case up and persue it in court if there wasn't business insurance and deep pockets to go after, particularly if they were asked to do this on contingency.
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xx Re: Drone Discussion #10
« Reply #676 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 06:22am »

on Oct 14th, 2009, 09:23am, Masker33 wrote:
Nothing will ever claim ownership of the original Drone information, so copyright is not a question. Use it.
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« Reply #677 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 07:07am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 06:22am, Jeddyhi wrote:


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on Yesterday at 10:23:48, Masker33 wrote:Nothing will ever claim ownership of the original Drone information, so copyright is not a question. Use it.


@ Masker, Being my annoying self.. I have to keep asking why??
Why masker, will nobody claim ownership? What is more valuable in this situation than money?

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« Reply #678 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 07:34am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 07:07am, tomi01uk wrote:
@ Masker, Being my annoying self.. I have to keep asking why??
Why masker, will nobody claim ownership? What is more valuable in this situation than money?

This is great! Questions to Masker via Jeddyhi. grin
Come on Tomi, nobody or nothing can claim it because it is not of this time and world. It belongs to no one and nothing, it does not physically exist for us and served a purpose that only a few know and less understand. rolleyes

On the copyright - this is my last comment, I promise. smiley

Thanks for addressing my last questions. Having seen how every possible claim (shoot for the moon) can and usually are put into civil lawsuits I can accept the same practice takes place in copyright infringement proceedings. Most get tossed later.
I値l leave it with disagreeing about AW substantial use of it, amount of time/effort the creators put into it and how failure to file any claim supports a possible drone reality. It痴 subjective at this point.
I値l agree there is nothing preventing someone to try and claim the material and obtain monetary compensation. Filing and winning are two different matters as I知 sure you know.

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« Reply #679 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 08:17am »

To the originators of this Drone saga, money is unimportant. The game was and is the point. To the originators the game is over with only the aftermath of any cursory interest. The message was sent. If someone wants to continue the game or start a new one, do so.

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« Reply #680 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 08:35am »

Tomi are you paying attention?


on Oct 14th, 2009, 09:23am, Masker33 wrote:
Nothing will ever claim ownership of the original Drone information, so copyright is not a question. Use it.



on Oct 15th, 2009, 07:07am, tomi01uk wrote:
@ Masker, Being my annoying self.. I have to keep asking why??
Why masker, will nobody claim ownership? What is more valuable in this situation than money?




on Oct 15th, 2009, 08:17am, Masker33 wrote:
To the originators of this Drone saga, money is unimportant. The game was and is the point. To the originators the game is over with only the aftermath of any cursory interest.




Masker has said it.

I have said it... heck, most of us have said it. rolleyes

What Masker has stated is an excellent explanation for a hoax. I was done because it was fun. Look at the attention he... ah, they... ah, the hoaxer is getting... recognition for ability, to keep a secret and the pure joy of playing people like a second hand fiddle... that was the goal.


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« Reply #681 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 08:53am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 07:34am, Katterfelto wrote:
Having seen how every possible claim (shoot for the moon) can and usually are put into civil lawsuits I can accept the same practice takes place in copyright infringement proceedings.



No, set rules and laws apply and registration number(s) are required to enforce copyright claims, and the standards are established through a long legacy of case law.

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I値l leave it with disagreeing about AW substantial use of it,



How much of the LAP haven't they used now would not even apply at this point. Fact is, they used a great deal of it.

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amount of time/effort the creators put into it



Time and effort doesn't matter. Only to the claimant in damages. A short verse that became a number one hit, maybe took 5 minutes of inspiration to write, but it would still apply here if it was printed on a product line or used in promotion without permission or reiembursement.

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and how failure to file any claim supports a possible drone reality.



I'm not implying that at all. The decision to apply that has to be subjective when anyone considers that in the real world someone would surely want to be compensated for having the LAP they created used commercially by a large company.

I only ask why? Why isn't this a priority? Is this a government, commercial or institutionally devised drone saga where compensation by individual creators would not be possible. fi: work for hire.

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It痴 subjective at this point.



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I値l agree there is nothing preventing someone to try and claim the material and obtain monetary compensation. Filing and winning are two different matters as I知 sure you know.



No lawfirm would file if they thought they would not force a settlement or prevail in court, it's pretty cut and dry.. copyright law.
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« Reply #682 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 09:02am »

Tomi, you are a true lady of the realm. They dislike you because you have an opinion and you stick with it. In their \"truth\" seeking they are the killers of ufology and that dear lady is what we ................
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« Reply #683 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 09:09am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 09:02am, Masker33 wrote:
Tomi, you are a true lady of the realm. They dislike you because you have an opinion and you stick with it. In their \"truth\" seeking they are the killers of ufology and that dear lady is what we ................


Wow.. since we are talking "We" now.. wink
Can I see your PM to Albert... Sigh!
(maybe just a quick synopsis..) smiley please.........
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« Reply #684 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 09:40am »

on Oct 14th, 2009, 5:29pm, SiddReader wrote:
Well masker is right with his view.

Meanwhile it is the old team of the ARC, who is carrying on this story.

But as I mentioned to Dil lateley, I don't think, Masker is Lev. I always thought he is Mthood. (BTW Hi, Michael!)

But anyway: Who cares? There are no news. Maybe the PIs will bring some in November. But I doubt it.



Or part of the same Group Lev always did say we.we we...I can visualize them playing .wee wee together...smiley ..Would you explain your hunch a little bit more on Michael/MtHood..I always find your take interesting and very insightful, He wasnt a member of that Whitleys-Reyes Study Group with you and Tomi too was he? I always wondered how they produced a report without apparent input from its members..of course we know Tomi forgot all about being a member and just found the report googling, and other people vanished like Jack Sarhakian, The X witness, Knowhow, ET, etc after their reports..

.At the same time, can you recall Arthurs forum name and alias he uses at Unknown Country and or what book(s) That Michael has helped write??

Add Great to see you Katt....smiley
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« Reply #685 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 10:06am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 09:02am, Masker33 wrote:
Tomi, you are a true lady of the realm. They dislike you because you have an opinion and you stick with it. In their \"truth\" seeking they are the killers of ufology and that dear lady is what we ................


Did you miss DrDil's post that started this conversation? She has an opinion but it changes whenever she feels the need to keep the topic alive!!

@tomi......it is time for you to shut the hell up already.....haven't you embarrassed yourself enough yet??
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« Reply #686 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 11:09am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 10:06am, TheShadow wrote:
haven't you embarrassed yourself enough yet??

Not in the slightest. I don't expect you to comprehend to begin with smiley
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« Reply #687 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 11:14am »

Cut the Crap out Tomi and stay on topic
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« Reply #688 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 11:38am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 09:09am, tomi01uk wrote:
Can I see your PM to Albert... Sigh!
(maybe just a quick synopsis..) smiley please.........


on Oct 15th, 2009, 10:06am, TheShadow wrote:
.....haven't you embarrassed yourself enough yet??


I don't think she is capable of embarrassment. grin
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« Reply #689 on: Oct 15th, 2009, 11:56am »

on Oct 15th, 2009, 11:38am, Jeddyhi wrote:
I don't think she is capable of embarrassment. grin


Jealous of Albert.. but hardly embarassed .. rolleyes
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