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« Reply #135 on: May 11th, 2010, 12:19pm »

The following is a small excerpt from a larger article by Bennett which is available at the RU Blog.

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Ufology as Art Form

There are UFOs and there is Ufology.


Exopolitics represents a post-modern meme-based prototypal entertainment system. Facts and fictions do not relate to such virtual superliminal constructs as SERPO and Project Camelot, any more than they relate to the Yellow Brick Road of OZ or Bob Hope’s Road to Morocco. If anything good could be said about them, it is that they represent cerebral Pop Art of a very high standard. This is a relatively new genre of highly wrought modern social comedy: it was born between the burgeoning games systems of web virtuality, and got caught between cyber culture, science fiction hallucinations, and countless elitist conspiracies of many a kidney. Having said that, I accept that Exopolitics is an authentic form of post-modern expression, and I rank it with Thunderbirds, Mission Impossible and the UK Dr. Who.

In that it contains techno and futurist elements Exopolitics is far superior to broad-ass TV sitcoms. Once one accepts Exopolitical culture as a form of multimedia expressionism, it becomes interesting in itself. Most of these Exopolitical people are well educated, highly intelligent, powerfully motivated, quite different to the usual Pippin-style foil-hat Okies from Muskokie. That they are all most probably quite sane is an interesting psychological mystery in itself. That they do not turn into script writers is another mystery. Conventional media may be too small and conventional a form of expression.

Like the aliens of Dr. Boylan, Exopolitical aliens are always engaged in Flash-Gordon daring-do adventures against various Men In Black cabals. Such do not appear near gasworks or sewage treatment farms. They always appear in glamorous hi-tech inspirational backgrounds and their environment appears to be constructed of the techno world of image, symbol and metaphor rather than good alien flesh.

Undoubtedly Exopolitics is Ufology at its best as post-modern Art Form. Warhol would have loved these sculpted multimedia manifestations and their do-anything say-anything claims for human habitations on Mars and Aliens in the White House.

Exopolitics also has the purely erotic nature of instant throw-away consumerism. Let’s face it – Exopolitics gives give good intellectual sex. It represents the thinking person’s Lady GaGa in the manner (in Britain) that “arts” TV woman Joan Bakewell once was said to represent “the thinking man’s crumpet.”

Asking Exopoliticians for “evidence” of their claims and belief is rather asking Alf the Alien or Yogi Bear what kind of ice-cream they like. “Fact” in the strictest sense cannot be applied to Big Media. The liminal memes which make up the body of Exopolitics just don’t work that way; they are performers in a comic metaphysical drama. Exopolitics is pure theatre, and damn good theatre it is, too, We must remember that in our burgeoning Global Village there is no such thing as Cartesian distance. The Global Village is a quantum plasma. It works any way which way.

Their blogs and emails alone make up one of the best English-language social comedies since Sheridan or Jonson, and it all is designed to get inextricably mixed with “real politics.” Take a look at this unblushing prose from Webre:

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“A very real exercise in comparative exopolitics has come about simultaneously, (and perhaps sychronistically) in a Russian Federation and in the United States. Exopolitics in a Russian state Duma have brought Russian President Dmitry Medvedev face to face with the same set of exopolitical issues addressed by the August 2010 ballot initiative for an Extraterrestrial Affairs commission in Denver, Colorado.

Liberal Democrat Party representative and state Duma deputy Andrei Lebedev “fears that extraterrestrials may have compromised Russia’s official secrets. After hearing a TV interview in which the President of the Kalmyk Republic, Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, spoke of his meeting with an alien spaceship, Lebedev called for instant action,” according to news reports in Russia.

President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov’s close encounter took place on Sep. 18, 1997, and Ilyumzhinov recalled it in a recent interview with TV presenter Vladimir Pozner. He stated that others “might be skeptical, but added: ‘I believe I communicated with them, I saw them. I probably would not have believed it, but there were three witnesses: my driver, the Minister and my assistant.’” ABC News reports, “Kirsan Ilyumzhinov was at home in his Moscow apartment when they came in and abducted him, taking him to their space ship where they communicated with him telepathically.”

Following President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov’s revelation of his meeting with extraterrestrials, “state Duma deputy Andrei Lebedev concluded that Ilyumzhinov had something to hide, and warned that ‘sensitive information’ could have been passed to the interplanetary guests.”

Seattle Exopolitics Examiner

http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner

All good fun we say, but it often results in people taking things a bit too earnestly.
Here is a quote from a private email:

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A note about the aliens I know and I promise to try and contain myself when I reference these bastards.

I do not speak for other abductees and I do not speak about other alien beings visiting this planet of which there are apparently many. I speak of the SOBs that come to my house and remove me from my bed, whoever they may be.

Bobby says they look like: http://www.ufoconspiracy.com/reports/three_second_eben.htm

Anything and everything any of these aliens I know ever conveyed to me is a lie, flat out lie. At the time I did not realize they were telling me lies but upon returning home and finding out what happened to me I find once again they lied to me. What these bastards do to humans is a violation of our human rights. Our physical body is nothing more than to experiment with which makes one quickly realize we humans are no more than laboratory animals. My handlers occasionally take me, do their experiments and return me to bed and I’m not supposed to not know the difference. I thought I had a horrible dream until I find blood on the sheets where bone marrow was removed or more tissue samples were taken, or more blood extracted. And then I occasionally wake up screaming in pain, often very severe pain from yet another procedure. I have woken many times screaming in pain once I was returned to bed. I have scared the hell out of my wife several times when I woke and screamed because the pain was so severe but I could do nothing else but scream until the pain subsided.”

Exopolitics is now at a stage in the Web Petri dish where it is about to mutate and transform itself into an imitation toy political system. This relating to whole new systems of experience which relate minimally to the politics and economics of the old industrial world once called the “real” world.

We have therefore a new form of political control whose existential base does not relate to objective facts and evidence any more than it relates to the horse-drawn carriage, or Gladstone’s Third Administration.

Here we have a completely new stage of story technology.....


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Well, I thought it relevant anyway..... wink

Cheers!! grin
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« Reply #136 on: May 11th, 2010, 1:35pm »

Ahhh Egads,,you beat me to it!! Yet so happy you saw it and so deft at posting it for us....LoL what a great work.
By the nines I thoroughly enjoyed it !

While others go there dont miss the Jack Sarfatti and Gordon Novel legal war brewing with Jack taking Gordon and his lawyer son "Sur" to Court for repeated physical threats emailed to Jack..Quite serious..we know that for assault..its the fear of bodily harm or injury that is just as litigeable as a battery or actual touching..and after reading I was shocked..how some of these "colorful" people can do.., almost like those mibs..! to keep their schemes agoin.. shocked
http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/01/jack-sarfatti-submits-police-report-on-gordon-novels-threats/

I've been out the loop ..missing this great stuff..
Art don't we just love it!?
and when we get immersed neck deep in it....its the next best thing to waterboarding!!
Just when you think its over..you get dunked again till you believe..or reach an orgasmic state as Colin suggested..Ahhhhhhhhh!! grin
Alas..those can be faked too..
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But the Verassimilitude..very convincing
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« Reply #137 on: May 11th, 2010, 2:20pm »

Art has always been the purveyor of the system with the most efficiency and staying power. It continues in that mode.
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« Reply #138 on: May 11th, 2010, 2:31pm »

on May 11th, 2010, 2:20pm, Icarus99 wrote:
Art has always been the purveyor of the system with the most efficiency and staying power. It continues in that mode.

I thought the system was a failure.
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« Reply #139 on: May 11th, 2010, 2:39pm »

It is a failure (IMO), but the art of it carries it forward and creates and defines the myth. The story moves on and after all what is history but a story most agree on or a failed system.
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« Reply #140 on: May 11th, 2010, 3:53pm »

I like Bennett's "analyses", nevertheless he also is a fun factor, because he does not realize, that he is inside this whole circus.
That makes him as much a clown as many of those, he describes.

The only way out of this glass house is the real world. But it is so funny in here. grin
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« Reply #141 on: May 11th, 2010, 5:22pm »

on May 11th, 2010, 1:35pm, Sysconfig wrote:
Ahhh Egads,,you beat me to it!! Yet so happy you saw it and so deft at posting it for us....LoL what a great work.
By the nines I thoroughly enjoyed it !

While others go there dont miss the Jack Sarfatti and Gordon Novel legal war brewing with Jack taking Gordon and his lawyer son "Sur" to Court for repeated physical threats emailed to Jack..Quite serious..we know that for assault..its the fear of bodily harm or injury that is just as litigeable as a battery or actual touching..and after reading I was shocked..how some of these "colorful" people can do.., almost like those mibs..! to keep their schemes agoin.. shocked
http://www.realityuncovered.net/blog/2010/01/jack-sarfatti-submits-police-report-on-gordon-novels-threats/

I've been out the loop ..missing this great stuff..
Art don't we just love it!?
and when we get immersed neck deep in it....its the next best thing to waterboarding!!
Just when you think its over..you get dunked again till you believe..or reach an orgasmic state as Colin suggested..Ahhhhhhhhh!! grin
Alas..those can be faked too..
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But the Verassimilitude..very convincing


Hi Sys, long time no vidi brother!! grin

Yeah, the Sarfatti thing has been rumbling on for months now, regardless of the pending case I too think the reason behind their fallout (if ever revealed) will be much more interesting than, well, the fallout!! laugh


Cheers.


(P.S. it's *Verisimilitude* wink)
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« Reply #142 on: May 11th, 2010, 5:54pm »

Sadly, one more example.

I only know one single example of a legitimate person dealing with UFOlogy.

Glad to know this person is here!

Edit to add: I am just watching "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". I am sure, Isaac is Jack Nicholson! shocked
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« Reply #143 on: May 11th, 2010, 6:39pm »




(P.S. it's *Verisimilitude* wink)
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B-b-b-b=but Doc .... thats my Trademark!! grin
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« Reply #144 on: May 12th, 2010, 04:40am »

@ Icarus would you agree with any aspects of this article?

http://tiny.cc/ai6e2

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« Reply #145 on: May 12th, 2010, 10:53am »

Well it looks like I have looked in during Old Home Week. Howdy Fellers! Good to see y'all. I've been spending most of my time in reality these past months, and I must say the experience is quite pleasant. I'm even leaning toward taking up full time residence there.

Colin Bennett always brings a much needed blast of fresh air into the asylum here. I admire him for trying to make some kind of sense of the Exopolitics train wreck, but I'm not ready to abandon my position, which is they are a pack of silly whack jobs looking for attention in whatever way they can get it. Like many other idiots in assorted fields, they do more harm to their purported cause than anything else.

How about ol' Dan Aykroyd?

http://io9.com/5536843/dan-aykroyds-alien-rant-theyre-breaking-the-law

I've long been a fan of Dan, but he's wobbling off into an increasingly eccentric orbit. As much fun as this is, he manages to make the reanimated corpse of Larry King seem competent!

I recently pulled out my old VHS copy of "Coneheads" and had a good time watching it for the first time in years and years. Well worth watching!

Sidd mentioned serious people in Ufology, so while I'm posting off topic stuff here is a link to an excellent blog. The archives are full of richly informative and quirky posts by the Perfesser.

http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/

Do a site search on Carl Sagan for some interesting information from an "insider." I always had strong suspicions about Carl, along with a million or so other folks.
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« Reply #146 on: May 12th, 2010, 12:36pm »

Yes tomi, it reads well as to what I suspect, but who am I to ponder such!
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« Reply #147 on: May 12th, 2010, 12:37pm »

Hmmm... Who are you to ponder such?.. what a tease wink
rolleyes arrrgh...
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« Reply #148 on: May 12th, 2010, 2:15pm »

on May 12th, 2010, 10:53am, Double Nought Spy wrote:
I've long been a fan of Dan, but he's wobbling off into an increasingly eccentric orbit. As much fun as this is, he manages to make the reanimated corpse of Larry King seem competent!


Best laugh I've had all day.
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« Reply #149 on: May 12th, 2010, 2:20pm »

Double..!! hugz ..Gortz a high five.. Return from reality sounds very interesting and for sure you all have one heck of a tan by now..
I have a theory that the line between kookiness and creativity is thin like the that gland the hypothalamus i believe its called..that regulates sex and craving for food..
and like a thermostat they can go awry.. grin
And there are people who know how to tickle both sides..
For Dan..hollywood and and its marketeers , for game makers we have ammo marketing aka globally Caret routinely violating forums.. knowing what we wanna here and say the right trigger words to keep it going.. and yes and we get some neat and not so neat movies and products.. and for people like aviary well its their dream to haul in a a fish or school of fishes like ..almost millionaire Joe Firmage who can get ripped off with the right set of papers or "secret documents"
secreted from some obscure yet universally accepted underground lab like area 51..(we all know whats going on there dont we?).by some guys with former service..like an ex cop or sheriff..who were in their weaving of the story.."in the know" They know all to well the ancient adage..fools and their money are soon to part..
and like the aviary these people seem to fly the coup when exposed, or at least get ruffled feathers..until they come up with excuses..like disinfo when it all fails..all the while the planning next big one..at the next waterhole..

The art ..has indeed turned into a science..but the principle..remains..something for nothing whether its a ufo or free energy..(or arrggg Big Foot)can be sold if the imagery and wording is delivered correctly and at the right time.
Every confidence (the term should tell us something) artist..and they themselves will tell you.skill yes...timing is everything..if a bunko artist a scammer cracks out of turn..he/she (they are equal opportunity..and a woman is often indispensable) loses..
They did crack out of turn and worse..they ran out of time.
Yes their will always be fools in the audience..but the pickins is slim..and we who know better are still here in the audience as well ..The tent ..the circus tent is big enough to accomodate us all..but it will be as Engineering said to ATS posters..you guys really are and I quote, a "Hard sell" he packed up his bags and went to la la land....OMF. .the rest we all know is history..
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