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« Reply #1365 on: Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:49am »

on Aug 21st, 2012, 2:33pm, Sys_Config wrote:
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What do we do now..no really good hoaxes..Levs drones were so much better looking , even than Terminators actually.
All this other stuff, all youtube is a real let down. XXdoughnutzxx no relation to DeeznutZ, I hope.. on all those videos is is more sickening
and quite the stat keeper
http://socialblade.com/youtube/user/xxxdonutzxxx
I feel so...so lost now. sad
.is the sun setting on us Marv.our last Hurrah..then .relegated to the role old fire extinguishers or do we dedicate our last few good years to ferreting out the deceivers in the establishment..
or just go home to finish raising our grand children..They certainly have a time in store for them..
what do you thinK? undecided


It is the nature of the beast. The sun will always rise and fall on someone. All I can say is to be true to yourself, the truth shall set you free. Maybe, just free enough to spend some time with the grand-kids.


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« Reply #1366 on: Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:11am »

on Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:49am, Marvin wrote:
It is the nature of the beast. The sun will always rise and fall on someone. All I can say is to be true to yourself, the truth shall set you free. Maybe, just free enough to spend some time with the grand-kids.


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Yes. I keep telling myself that .the woods are lovely dark and deep..and though people in certain quarters would like that Marvin, I'm afraid it's a little too late to do as most have..gone gently into the night....

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« Reply #1367 on: Oct 5th, 2012, 07:01am »

Something interesting:


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/04/texas-man-linked-to-anonymous-hacking-group-indicted/

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« Reply #1368 on: Oct 5th, 2012, 10:35am »

on Oct 5th, 2012, 07:01am, Marvin wrote:
Something interesting:


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/04/texas-man-linked-to-anonymous-hacking-group-indicted/



Lulz! Interesting..
hehe..I saw that last month..Poor Robert..BB went a tad over on that one but understandable if the agency was driving him a up the wall..won't be the first time someone driven insane. Mentioning kids..crossed the line...The new groups don't seem to have the ponash of the older ones like razor1911..worst that can happen here a slap n rist or...he rolls over on his buddies..Ya know..there should be a special act protecting the Roberts of the world ..maybe this is a step in the right direction..

Marvin! Good work on shutting down that Counterfeit ARC in Texas also.surprised nothing was mentioned on the UK branch...Can't have our good name besmirched by impostors..especially Alexander Fishenko..aka The Russian Dopefish..
http://www.fbi.gov/houston/press-releases/2012/russian-agent-and-10-other-members-of-procurement-network-for-russian-military-and-intelligence-operating-in-the-u.s.-and-russia-indicted-in-new-york

The Defendants:

Arc Electronics Inc.
Principal Place of Business: Houston, Texas
The Arc Defendants

In addition to Fishenko, Posobilov, and Klebanova, the indictment charges Arc salespersons Lyudmila Bagdikian, Anastasia Diatlova, Sevinj Taghiyeva, and Svetalina Zagon, as well as Arc shipping manager Shavkat Abdullaev, with one count of conspiring to violate and 21 counts of violating the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) and the Arms Export Control Act (AECA) and with conspiring to commit wire fraud. According to the indictment, these defendants obtained controlled microelectronics by lying and submitting false information regarding the true nature, users, and intended uses of the high-tech goods, then exporting the goods, without the required licenses, to procurement firms in Russia. The defendants’ principal port of export for these goods was John F. Kennedy International Airport in the Eastern District of New York.
Your patience paid off..its indefatigable (can anybody really pronounce that word?)
There can and only only be one Dopefish..let that be a lesson..
The ARC Lives on! grin

Clarification..Alex and crew were not accused of espionage ..but exporting tech available to honest citizens but too dangerous to put into foreign hands. I remember at Inacomp when we could not sell tsimple 386 processors abroad. really hurt our sales. I wonder if Alex took a big chance and sent Ipod5 's to Leningrad..Maybe this too much even for the Best Buy Boyz at the Bureaau. shocked

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« Reply #1369 on: Oct 5th, 2012, 11:05pm »

I was more than remiss saying great to cya Marvin.. Reminiscing as always..We did run into some interesting names quite by accident. Even an Iranian Engineer for Siemens..that was back lol 2007 2008 hard to remember..same company.. who ( whose equip is alleged) slipped the Stuxvirus into the system so to speak. I thought at the time it had something to do with a certain water supply. Just bizzare blurs that the net inadvertently by its nature sucks you in..like those puddles at the edge of a highway or road .
Glad we kept moving ahead with the game. Did you have something in mind with the chaps you mentioned..smiley


You knew I couldn't resist ..
http://betabeat.com/2012/09/anonymouss-barrett-brown-arrested-for-threatening-fbi-agent-anonymous-retaliates/

http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2012/09/25/barrett-brown-writes-a-letter-from-jail/

I cannot forget how my mom cried on March 6th after the FBI had left with my equipment and hers, and how she whispered through tears that she wanted to be able to protect me from prison but couldn’t; I will never forget the look on Jenna’s face as the federal thugs swept through my efficiency apartment with guns drawn and safeties off, in search of hidden assailants and non-existent weapons. That these things are unjust and increasingly insane does not change the fact that they are the result of my own behavior, my own miscalculations, my own choices.

Having said that, I regret nothing. For the last week I was denied opiates and thus forced to feel not just rage, hatred, all the primal things, but forced to endure them while sicker than most humans can imagine and in a jail that is overcrowded and filled with common criminals. I have gained something extraordinary in that process, which ended this morning when I was given the first of 30 days of suboxone. I will personally thank everyone on the outside who has helped me and this movement particularly at this critical time, when I have regained the freedom that I did nothing to lose. For now, and until that time, it is war, on paper as always, but war.

I really wonder what war that is..
It's tragic..that this seems the only way we can get a picture of the machinations of the powers that be. Even then it is a skewed picture.
I wonder, what as a parent his mother did to warrant her having to endure the grief he brought into her life by his actions not the least his heroin addiction.

edit to add..It would be a mistake for the PTB to assume that this is the face of all hackers..whose numbers are legion. It will be only a question of time before the real news affecting us reaches our screens versus a sum sum data dump in pastebin or apprehension of the self appointed posterchild above.
I wonder what Robert Smith would say if his children suddenly turned against the system after all the hard work he may have put into them raising them proper. It happens more often than we can imagine.
The 'Process" continues.
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« Reply #1370 on: Nov 4th, 2012, 01:14am »

on Nov 4th, 2012, 12:50am, Austin Popper wrote:
Thanks for reminding me, EQ. I should have put on the hip waders months ago!



...and not a moment too soon!

Cripes, that was close. shocked
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« Reply #1371 on: Feb 21st, 2013, 8:00pm »

I'm almost afraid to post this...

Aren't we all allowed to drink the saki and spout off at least once a year? Perhaps I've imbibed too much recently and need to be cut off, but...

There's always been a couple of fascinating things about the drones. One of the key things is how elaborate and how diffusive it was. Was it planned? Was it elaborately created by people on earth? And why is drone art so... well it's fairly specific isn't it. For such a long time, I associated it with gears all interconnected like parts to a machine.

But what if the purpose isn't to specify parts to a machine, but different interlocking parts - parts to a process? Don't they all look like what alien warlocks might use as conjuration circles and nodes? What if the whole drone conspiracy is more meant to be a hidden drone message? To convey a hidden meaning beyond standard aliens or government covert agenda? Maybe the drone message is a warning on what you believe in. That the conspiracy blankets itself as other conspiracies, and that those true powers-that-be are content to allow the public to dwell in misconception.

If we look at the drone art offered less as schematics and more as rituals and incantations... it points to the "alien other" as being more demonic in origin. Perhaps the hoaxers' purpose was never for monetary profit or notoriety at all. One cannot overtly go on about demonic infestation on earth. Even saying it could invite doom on the speaker, since they aren't governed by space or distance. Where could you hide?

And when you think that the end of the world keeps getting bandied about by nutjobs and false prophets, who does that hinder? The masses. They are lulled into false comfort. Believers in benevolent aliens? False comfort. That the government is bad? Fixate on that, and perhaps you fix the government instead of spending time fixing yourself, preparing for tribulation. Tribulation becomes something like a scriptural footnote when the end of the world has come and gone so many times before without effect. Those few who do preach the aliens are really demons tend to be a few screws loose themselves.

Maybe they aren't the demons that we can understand or know, but perhaps the ancients had some inkling to what they were about, but being ancients, they lacked the ability to convey it accurately to future generations. All they could do is mention "demons" and leave a code of laws to govern the peoples bodily and in spirit, and make note of a time of reckoning as a warning.

Perhaps there is some gate we need to be aware of, a philosophical or metaphysical gate that is what the Christian bible talks about the path to Heaven being narrow with a small gate and the road to hell being wide and paved with good intentions and probably a gleaming and attractive gate. That would mean rapture is the occurrence of the closing of the gate (to Heaven), and once fully closed, these alien demon things have us. How long might that be? What would predicate the closing of the gate? Would it be of the demons' choosing? So when they feel they can finally seal the deal and net the most souls? Or is it when heaven decides, the last souls worthy are "written in the book" and the gate activates? Might that be sooner than later? A century? A decade?

Sorry. Just musing. It's an interesting different angle. I think the drone art sort of all of the sudden jogged this subliminal inkling out of me. I kept thinking how they always appeared as a sort of schematic but in the way modeling languages operate, based on class and behavior, not just operation. Also the symbols. Instead of thinking of them as alien symbols, I thought of them in terms of magical symbols. Eh. Maybe I should have posted this instead in the Angels section.

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« Reply #1372 on: Feb 21st, 2013, 8:16pm »

WOW Reasoner, This is the first time for me in this thread, and that post of yours, was my first read, it was wonderful.
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« Reply #1373 on: Feb 22nd, 2013, 09:36am »

It’s good to see some drone discussions again.

What’s interesting to me is that the whole affair is so quickly written off by many in the pro-ET-UFO audience who have not even reviewed the “saga”. Yet many will accept blurry objects, suspect videos, night sky lights, natural effects and a host of other causes as real and evidence of alien visitation. The drones had everything it seems – clear pictures, documents, a unique symbolic language, Isaac, Fox News coverage, countless web and radio coverage. Yes, there were issues - suspected CGI, location inconsistencies, anonymous witness, possible commercial corporate connections, etc. But were they more then what we have in some of the cases not suspected a hoax especially considering the amount of material under study? The attention and scrutiny of the drones was intense over many years when compared to your typical photo or video that makes the rounds nowadays on forums.

In UFO threads it is not uncommon to read “everyone knows the drones were fake” and other similar matter of fact comments. Are these opinions based on their study of the whole affair or just an acceptance of what someone else said?

Did it fail to convince primarily because it was considered too good to be real? Is something more believable when the material is subjective? Do we really want to know the truth and have it come to an end? If anything, I find it interesting how the drone “saga” is perceived vs. what is often presented for support of ET and paranormal events. This is just scratching the surface of what I think can be learned here.

The poor drones seem an outcast at times. cry
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« Reply #1374 on: Feb 22nd, 2013, 09:46am »

on Feb 22nd, 2013, 09:36am, MysterEd wrote:
It’s good to see some drone discussions again.

What’s interesting to me is that the whole affair is so quickly written off by many in the pro-ET-UFO audience who have not even reviewed the “saga”. Yet many will accept blurry objects, suspect videos, night sky lights, natural effects and a host of other causes as real and evidence of alien visitation. The drones had everything it seems – clear pictures, documents, a unique symbolic language, Isaac, Fox News coverage, countless web and radio coverage. Yes, there were issues - suspected CGI, location inconsistencies, anonymous witness, possible commercial corporate connections, etc. But were they more then what we have in some of the cases not suspected a hoax especially considering the amount of material under study? The attention and scrutiny of the drones was intense over many years when compared to your typical photo or video that makes the rounds nowadays on forums.

In UFO threads it is not uncommon to read “everyone knows the drones were fake” and other similar matter of fact comments. Are these opinions based on their study of the whole affair or just an acceptance of what someone else said?

Did it fail to convince primarily because it was considered too good to be real? Is something more believable when the material is subjective? Do we really want to know the truth and have it come to an end? If anything, I find it interesting how the drone “saga” is perceived vs. what is often presented for support of ET and paranormal events. This is just scratching the surface of what I think can be learned here.

The poor drones seem an outcast at times. cry


Ah MysterEd, I have never posted something saying like we all know the drone phenomenon is fake. I am in the closet on drone subjects. It is a comfortable, dark and secure closet: I think I'll stay here for a while.

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« Reply #1375 on: Feb 22nd, 2013, 10:27am »

I hate drones.

There . I said it. Sue me.

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Seriously though. It started out as just another 'is it a hoax , cgi or what ' thread. But when people started adding the basic drone image to all kinds of things it morphed into a humour and art thread. At that was the end of any credibility it might have had.

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« Reply #1376 on: Feb 22nd, 2013, 10:51am »

on Feb 22nd, 2013, 10:27am, HAL9000 wrote:
I hate drones.

There . I said it. Sue me.

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Seriously though. It started out as just another 'is it a hoax , cgi or what ' thread. But when people started adding the basic drone image to all kinds of things it morphed into a humour and art thread. At that was the end of any credibility it might have had.

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« Reply #1377 on: Feb 22nd, 2013, 10:56am »

on Feb 22nd, 2013, 10:27am, HAL9000 wrote:

Seriously though. It started out as just another 'is it a hoax , cgi or what ' thread. But when people started adding the basic drone image to all kinds of things it morphed into a humour and art thread. At that was the end of any credibility it might have had.


Credibility of the supposed events or the discussion of it?
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« Reply #1378 on: Feb 22nd, 2013, 11:20am »

MrEd,

...Credibility of the supposed events or the discussion of it?..

The discussion of it.


Although the credibility of the whole thing did seem to be taking a battering.
The way the postings were going gave the impression that everyone accepted it was CGI HOAX.

At that point I lost interest in it.

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« Reply #1379 on: Feb 22nd, 2013, 3:42pm »

Klat,

I did indeed think that I may be correct. By being the shy, self deprecating soul that I am I just let them get on with it.

Once someone admits to hoaxing even a part of a case, the thing is dead.

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