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« Reply #330 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 03:27am »

I followed Adrian Lamo's misadventures, poetry, philosophy, etc for a long while. The corporate whistleblowing he did was the key that saved him from so much jail time.

Many times companies and governments have sloppy security holes that they need to take account for and fix but never do. They just try to blame others like Lamo who find them. As if Lamo is the threat..

Now that his "career" took its turn into bona fide security testing for corporations he was probably making more salary than the amount he was ever fined.

He compromised something on a global scale to not compromise himself this time. IMO
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« Reply #331 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 07:50am »

Thanx for that, , On a scale of 1 to 3 Do you think Linda and Whitley, are very disappointing, 2 mildly disappointing, 3 not disappointing at all?

on Jun 13th, 2010, 9:31pm, Sysconfig wrote:
Imo, He could give two squats what anybody thinks...Heck nobody paid his 6o- thousand dollar fine, monthly probation monitoring fees, and attorneys fees he was up up to his neck in...that is ...until he met the unhappy soldier boy. I am sure he is well on way, if not already...debt free..Especially as same people interested in slamming Wiki leaks..and scaring any potential leakers away..are involved..
So much for safe havens for whistle blowers....and the thought that DRT wanted to proclaim itself a safe haven for witnesses...was laughable if not sad..while parading them at same time..much less vetting them like we did ...Brent Yearout ( as only Sid could remark.Yerr Out!}comes to mind..laugh

Its not a safe haven even for artists right Lev? grin

One good thing the drones were used for also was that student video..with the green filters used from UK..that won the 10k award..the subject was not Et but the incredible incursion of technology into privacy..indeed that was well done.

What can we expect from The whitley Striebers and Howells of the Earth when confronted with the opportunity to get to the truth..and help the public interest?forget drones for a moment..lets try cropcircles
This is what happened to Matt Williams famous Crop Circle maker and researcher..when he told Whitley about one of his guests Glickmann who alleges ET crop Corcle connection..

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"Glickman says that crop circles are extra terrestrial, at the same time believing that he is directly in contact with them and that they are guiding him. Not anyone else mind you, just him! I didn’t like the fact that he was going on Whitley Strieber's radio show, putting forward untruths about the crop circle subject to twenty million listeners in the US on a weekly basis. So I thought that it would be a good idea to say to Whitley, "well look, just for your own piece of mind and balance, do you want to know if your honored, prestigious guest is actually wrong? Because I can prove it to you and it would give you a better balance about what’s going on." He agreed and asked, “how do you think you can show me this?” I said, “Well the way we always show it. I’ll make you a circle, done under real conditions. I’ll send you the details beforehand, then you wait for Glickman to make his comments and determinations and if he’s telling you it’s extra terrestrials you’ll know it’s not.” So we agreed to do that and of course I stressed that he had to keep it secret. So I sent the details of the circle that we were going to make to Whitley Strieber and went down and made it. It was specifically containing a number of elements of design that Mr. Glickman said could not be done by humans. I put them all in this circle! His ears were going to go up on this one! Whitley Strieber gave the details to Michael Glickman and they immediately phoned the authorities. I got the house turned over by the police, looking for evidence of making crop circles. I admitted straight off because I had gone too far in what I was telling the researchers. So when the police said, “Did you admit this?” I said, “Yes.”"

Williams was convicted of criminal damage, and fined £125. His computer and editing equipment were also taken for examination, leaving him out of business for over six months.

Thats Disappointing

I am sure whitley as a practicing..and from above..very practical..Catholic..merely absolved himself of that little dirty deed by going to his local confessional ..and doing 20 hail mary's and a prayer bead on his Rosary..

This is what the Drone has exposed...and there is more to come yet..as IC says...in his signature..Time moves on.
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« Reply #332 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 07:55am »

I wouldn't compromise getting the information and cooperation in the future that may be forthcoming as events unfold by tagging people now unfavorably.
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« Reply #333 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 09:19am »

I thought this was about drones and and associated dronies and not about crop circles. But since you brought it up:

Strieber never contacted the authorities, nor was he ever contacted by the authorities, and never turned anything over to them. The only email he received from Williams was a drawing of the design he intended.

Glickman has never said the all crop circles are "extraterrestrial", whatever that means.

Williams went out, on his own accord and without the landowners permission, and attempted to make his design, which by his own admittance took 3 nights.

Glickman turned him in on his own.

So, what we have here is a case of a certain Matthew Williams embellishing his own story to appear more important than he actually is.

What does this have to do with fake drone pictures? Nothing. Only an attempt at pinning some hazy story telling on Strieber, who frankly has little or nothing to do with the subject, other than his statements that he thought they were real, which they aren't.

In summation, on a scale from 1 to 3, do I think _____ is disappointing, 2 mildly disappointing, 3 not disappointing at all, I choose #1.



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« Reply #334 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 11:57am »

on Jun 14th, 2010, 07:55am, tomi01uk wrote:
I wouldn't compromise getting the information and cooperation in the future that may be forthcoming as events unfold by tagging people now unfavorably.

Thats what I expected , but certainly barring those unfolding events that may or may not come, you are unable to render any opinion on the as to date on the two most and biggest promoters of the Drone Drama for nearly 3 years ?
And are you implying you have still a direct connection to these same people?
How can being honest have an adverse affect ?
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« Reply #335 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 1:15pm »

AFAIK I've never done anything to ruin what connections I have, differing opinions aside. But I try not to be too annoying to key people* wink

* Icarus excluded grin
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« Reply #336 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 3:32pm »

And just as much ,Its also a place like Whitleys forum to be able to manipulate draw ready williing and able attention seeking witnesses to come ...no..jump! like Reyes, and another drone witness, that Linda "interviewed." Lack of witnesses was never a problem or will be for any of their escapades. And like Whitely reneged on the guy above.., and Linda reneged on the photos, Rest assured they would most probably have their mamas thrown in jail before they told a truth that would dispel a money making untruth..analagos here to not speaking except in the most effusive lauding terms about the drone, for fear of losing a perceived chance at an opportunity with the powers trying to keep it alive..







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« Reply #337 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 9:53pm »

Witness "Ted," over at 'that other place,' says HE will "try to get an answer" from LMH concerning the original photos she has in her possession and why she didn't release more HI-res scans or something along these lines.

Claims to have a special 'trust' relationship with her...

Boy o Boy, won't be long now!
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« Reply #338 on: Jun 14th, 2010, 11:30pm »

Klat..I don't bother over there as They're a 2 years late and a dollar short..one can shy a six pack right IC? means nothing..Even The other Tom, Marsave claimed to have said was complete to Linda. yet on on the one sent to OMF..had exif data missing..Odd for a prof videographer and Photographer to do on something so important...dont ya think?.Why he has a special relationship of trust too.. with the PIs.going back years...the same with Whitley and Linda..yes..special indeed..and no surprise here...not even stimulus..itsvso repetitive.. for a lets wait and see..

On special relationships Tomi has one too..wont say a thing to upset them and risk not being part of this...she said so..read above..So does Lev..trust them like family I say..smiley

They all have a special relationship..just can't get their acts together..too late for a comeback Klatt..best look from the Laffin thread balcony upstairs...

All this llama Drama to lead to what..
This is a search thread. not contingent on what they are doing now...let's not make it an advertising thread for them

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« Reply #339 on: Jun 15th, 2010, 1:43pm »

@ Icarus, The Raj photo proved to have shadow problems and based on the actual location being found, how do you think that the drone was inserted into the photograph?

What method would have been used do you think, to accomplish such a picture that has this kind of quality with this kind of shading error that was found in it?
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« Reply #340 on: Jun 15th, 2010, 3:44pm »

Mhm... I'm not Icarus, but I think it was cut and paste.

Or maybe * Duck and cover* wink
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« Reply #341 on: Jun 15th, 2010, 9:10pm »

Tomi, The program I use most often, Cinema 4D, includes a composite module that can do many, many things. This includes dropping in a background and matching the lighting in the background to the model. Most 3D programs can do this now and photoshop is not so important. Composition of model with reality is now perfected. Most likely some method like this was used.
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« Reply #342 on: Jun 16th, 2010, 03:27am »

I like Sids explanation..
elegance in simplicity....
and you are right IC its so ubiquitous indeed...can you show us how , and you would do a cut and paste to make it seemless like that. Take an alienhead and reconstruct a standing figure on these clothes..keeping shadows s etc all consistent? enough to say is it real or memorex?


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make it so it tells us a story to capture the imagination,
I don;t quite have a green thumb for any of this I am sure you know and understand..Call it..Hands across the waters..like in that beatles song..

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« Reply #343 on: Jun 16th, 2010, 07:46am »

on Jun 15th, 2010, 9:10pm, Icarus99 wrote:
Tomi, The program I use most often, Cinema 4D, includes a composite module that can do many, many things. This includes dropping in a background and matching the lighting in the background to the model. Most 3D programs can do this now and photoshop is not so important. Composition of model with reality is now perfected. Most likely some method like this was used.


In late 2006 what professional program and hardware would have been used do you think? I think this is a conservative estimate of when the work would have been taking place in modifying these pictures.

So.. if I am correct here. You are saying that a photographic image can be scanned into a module and used in a 3D graphics program to then insert a cgi model? And in 2005 to late 2006, the capability of producing the quality we see from that image would have to have been from what kind of set up?

What was the process used do you think, that the drone will appear behind the wires as seen in Raj16?


btw: I watched a few videos on how to use Cinema 4D, specifically paid attn to the one that shows how to make a hand. I am amazed at the ability you have shown.
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« Reply #344 on: Jun 16th, 2010, 08:22am »

Yes you are a natural ..I was a tad remiss asking you IC to also explain what the UK business in those pix above is about, after you closed the ter photobucket account with your material in it..and it would be great since you couldnt be in Georgia and Uk , or two places at once..how many people were with you on this..(no names of course..unless you want to)..we would appreciate it Thank you.. cool
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