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« Reply #60 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 09:57am »

on Mar 12th, 2010, 05:56am, Jeddyhi wrote:
on Today at 02:32:55, tomi01uk wrote: I don't think this used vector brushes, but then I don't know for sure. But I have a sense that this piece of art took a whole lot more than that in a 3/D program. It is really really good in my eye. The shadows, the objects, their placement, the balance. All very good.


I was talking about Masker's art he just posted .. not the LAP.
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To repeat the question to Masker/Icarus:

Why in previous posts did you say the "original plates" will never be found for the LAP when it comes to copyright issues, if you don't know what the LAP is and who or what has them?

Rather than answer that question, jump over it and just speculate on who and why.....

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« Reply #61 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 3:24pm »

My speculation on this whole affair is that it was a complex hoax that, even with planning, took on a greater life of its own. I consider the drones and the lap to have a certain beauty that captivates and could cause someone to want to join in the game. Ego and being in on the action would probably motivate a hoaxer. To me the metaphysical aspects come from the shapes of the objects themselves. If we decide there was no real planning in the saga, then it was a seed that once planted grew.
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« Reply #62 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 4:00pm »

Yes, again I think your words have piercing insight because damgumit.... rolleyes grin rolleyes

Ok.. so... what is your speculation about why nobody or group has come out to claim creative rights to the LAP?
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« Reply #63 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 5:19pm »

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Ok.. so... what is your speculation about why nobody or group has come out to claim creative rights to the LAP?


Because deep down the various hoaxers must feel that it is in their interest to remain silent. Maybe some feel there is something behind it all or that it is a dead issue with no interest left in it. Also since there appears to be more than one hoaxer or group of hoaxers it could be just too much trouble. I believe the drones are a good example of something that took on a life of its own and in some ways created its own hoaxers.
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« Reply #64 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 7:43pm »

Speculating a little more here...

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Because deep down the various hoaxers must feel that it is in their interest to remain silent.



With the royalties from Alienware, the creators of the LAP could be lazing in their own motor sailor out in a harbor in the Caribbean.... (with internet)

What kind of interest would you imagine could prevail over monetary renumeration for such an effort?

And just humor me for one more speculation..

But what kind of minds/persons/group would have the creative talent to conceive of these designs, execute them to excruciating detail to the point it creates as you say.. its own life...
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« Reply #65 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 8:04pm »

Just thinking to myself.. the answer to why renumeration isn't important has to be because money is something they already have enough of..
The creators of this material needed extreme amounts of time and resources as well as creative talent and what they may get from Alienware is possibly a drop in the bucket to them?

Icarus, if my speculation isn't too far off base, then what kind of a group would this be? We can't find a precident for the drones.. so what artist group could take this on?
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« Reply #66 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 9:33pm »

Watching you two talk is like watching a show of Beavis and Butt-head...

The LAP is a large vector graphic, nothing more. It is a computer generated image.

For all we know, there is no "artist(s)" who created it, it could possibly be a random generated image created by random algorithms. All someone would have to do is input some parameters and then click a button and these random circles and gears and curved lines with a half-copyrighted font all over it shows up.

The LAP is just another piece of SCI-FI trash. SCI-FI art is like bad diarrhea in a toilet... always just a random pattern of crap all over toilet bowl.





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« Reply #67 on: Mar 12th, 2010, 9:45pm »

on Mar 12th, 2010, 3:24pm, Icarus99 wrote:
I consider the drones and the lap to have a certain beauty that captivates and could cause someone to want to join in the game. Ego and being in on the action would probably motivate a hoaxer.


...a subconscious confession?

on Mar 12th, 2010, 5:19pm, Icarus99 wrote:
I believe the drones are a good example of something that took on a life of its own and in some ways created its own hoaxers.


Like Lev, right?
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« Reply #68 on: Mar 13th, 2010, 01:38am »

on Mar 12th, 2010, 9:33pm, neveleeleven wrote:
Watching you two talk is like watching a show of Beavis and Butt-head...


LMAO! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

"huuh-huh-huuh-huh-huuh.....you said butt!"

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« Reply #69 on: Mar 13th, 2010, 03:29am »

on Mar 12th, 2010, 9:33pm, neveleeleven wrote:
Watching you two talk is like watching a show of Beavis and Butt-head...

The LAP is a large vector graphic, nothing more. It is a computer generated image.

For all we know, there is no "artist(s)" who created it, it could possibly be a random generated image created by random algorithms. All someone would have to do is input some parameters and then click a button and these random circles and gears and curved lines with a half-copyrighted font all over it shows up.



If that is your theory about how the LAP was created, then you should be able to demonstrate sample code, generating similiar quality designs and the program..
or else you are blowing smoke....

Personally, I suggest you lay off the strong stuff for awhile....

edit to add: a dissertation about vector brushes is not a demonstration of your "theory"...
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« Reply #70 on: Mar 13th, 2010, 09:35am »

on Mar 13th, 2010, 03:29am, tomi01uk wrote:
If that is your theory about how the LAP was created, then you should be able to demonstrate sample code, generating similiar quality designs and the program..
or else you are blowing smoke....

Personally, I suggest you lay off the strong stuff for awhile....

edit to add: a dissertation about vector brushes is not a demonstration of your "theory"...



Talk about blowing smoke.......Pot meet kettle!!!


Tomi you have done nothing but blow smoke about drone theories for 3 years...and have never bothered proving a single theory.
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« Reply #71 on: Mar 13th, 2010, 09:56am »

on Mar 13th, 2010, 09:35am, TheShadow wrote:
Tomi you have done nothing but blow smoke about drone theories for 3 years...and have never bothered proving a single theory.


Well I'm not offering theories am I? I'm asking questions.. It's an investigation, of who and why.... Since we are obviously still not certain about what and how ... grin (except for the hoax aspect)

In two + years we have all nailed down "where"..
not too bad a start wink
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« Reply #72 on: Mar 13th, 2010, 12:16pm »

on Mar 13th, 2010, 09:56am, tomi01uk wrote:
(except for the hoax aspect)



Im borderline impressed you admitted (FINALLY) that the drones were indeed a hoax!!! Welcome to the real world, Tomi........now maybe you can get a life!!


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« Reply #73 on: Mar 13th, 2010, 2:23pm »

on Mar 13th, 2010, 12:16pm, TheShadow wrote:
Im borderline impressed you admitted (FINALLY) that the drones were indeed a hoax!!! Welcome to the real world, Tomi........now maybe you can get a life!!




Hmmph angry wink .... where have you been?
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« Reply #74 on: Mar 13th, 2010, 4:39pm »

Icarus when you speak of metaphysical art..
I can't help but notice the similarity of elements between these two:

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Obviously these must be a form of sigil?

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