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« Reply #750 on: Jul 18th, 2010, 7:06pm »

on Jul 18th, 2010, 5:10pm, Icarus99 wrote:
I am not referring to string theory, but to the seemingly random events of history that eventually set a system in motion. At least this is one of my meanings. To me there appears to be orchestration in these random events that would negate us calling them random. In no way does this relieve the self from using the tools it has to determine its own course, but I believe strong forces work around it. Call them what you want. Have belief in them or no belief in them, it is my opinion that they, whatever they are, are not affected by our beliefs on any level.


Intelligent design..or the self organization of plasma around impurities..precursuros of amino acids in space..but thats already in the scientific and even religious circles..
What has that got to do with the drones except they used symbology to evoke those in the observers and push it , agressively..something, if you ascribe to them.. Real Gods, demons or angels would have to do no..straight into the cropcircle. gobbledegook .free energy..and disclosure domains..
The Creators of the drone are simply serving the interests of their own pockets..of their own domains..was the only message I saw, quite Earthly origins..

why are you trying to make it some nefarious great philosohical discussion..It was a scam.

It was made to hoodwink..some people got took..and it failed wito take off..And now you, part of the deception/scheming process.. want to make it something meaningful and introspective..

Yeah Next time people.check your sources..
Anyone can make and write a good yarn if he does his homework..

This now..after listening to all of this tells me it belongs in a trash heap..even the blurs were more interesting..Take that to the Isaac team.

You should have remained banned..you have told us nothing to help..we already don't know..

Have a Gas with it Bro.
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« Reply #751 on: Jul 18th, 2010, 7:33pm »

I am as uninterested in what you have to say as you are in what I have to say. I do not like wordiness and those who appreciate what I say will appreciate it and those who subscribe to your words will continue to do so. I leave it at that.
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Oh, and I am still technically banned, that is the reason I have to come here in a round about way. That is also why I can not use most of the features here. I also know that if THEY want to ban me they will. That is the reason I stick so closely to the rules of engagement.

I am not your Bro.
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« Reply #752 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 02:43am »

Yes sys, I was enjoying this conversation with Icarus and drdil. I was learning about the background of people and ideas in this matter. Being tempermental and controlling seems to be counter intuitive at times when all there is to learn is how others out there and each of us thinks. Which is healthy since we've been here for a fricking year now at least...

Gort asked why these people would be so devastated because their Mufon board closed down. Didn't others worry about you when you left for a break? We need to connect with others in reinforcing ways. Dispite our differences we still have something in common that connects us through our interest that others in our real life communities don't share.

We can meet real life friends through online communities. Even if people never meet in person, sometimes the exchanges can be so important to a person, I'm hardly going to judge others situations to criticise.

I've never visited the mufon forum once ever, that I can remember at least. But there are people here, in DRT and on OM I do care about. I've never met them in person but they have given me friendship and knowledge and entertainment. How can i thank Kat enough for introducing me to Roy Buchanan through his post? How can I thank OTF enough for all his patience helping me understand aspects of science? So much has been gained here by everyone from what we have shared through this saga. Icarus has a good brain. All these formidable minds will give us the ideas or insights we need to figure this out eventually. The ones who put this drone saga out will come as well to this forum, if they aren't lurking now. Let's allow everyone a platform with some margin of respect. IMO
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« Reply #753 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 04:19am »

Since when is languishing in denial and comiserating with your peers at OM and DRT the vasis for coming here as Lev did to ying ying the same diatribe page after page..Now you want to make it a drama of epic proportions. Concern for fellow man? ..much less myself? while holding hands with a hoaxter..fawning and praising while hes part of the devastion of that people like that poor mufon person without a life now is experienceing? Thats a paradox to me..a real contradiction..sounds more like a death wish ..if its not hippocracy..Yes lurkers abound and they will never come out as long as you and lev and drt continue to make and glorify more than what it was ..a hoax ..you are doing the damage control as is lev..you both flitter back and forth..saying absolutely nothing of substance..he admitted..cause he was caught..not because of some comcern or reflections about his actions..
Imo..you are both liars.and drama llamas. to boot.
Ill call you as i see you and Bubba Bob there ..The oinly thing you learned was how to keep the chuck and jive going..we all see that..Take that maudlin attempt at vaudeville performance and polyester concern somewhere else..what you do is no different than trolling..look it up.

And just what would you say to the "lurking hoaxters?
How do you feel about them.. Just what would you ask them Tommi..? Do you have a stand on that? Do you have a stand on anything ? People that care about people as you say you do,,generally take a stand on something..or would you just continue the usual fawning over what you and Lev think of a masterpiece.?








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« Reply #754 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 04:42am »

Well sys, right now YOU are spinning everything into a dark drama. You think you own the show? If you want to call it a show realise that is YOUR reality you are selling. To others, like myself, it might be a thread where people who have a shared interest in this drone mystery want to meet and discus it. Along the way we hope to meet others who might have more insight. You have a very strange definition of troll IMO. Before you call others a troll....
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« Reply #755 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 04:48am »

Its a show for you..not for me..I don't like liars and their debutantes..not my show..thats your department..and your platform..i'm asking you what is your position if you met them face to face what do you say? You say they are lurking? say something!..

Predictable..ie..just a thread continuing the same..as you are doing..right now..irrespective..of the findings..

That really speaks to how shallow your staements are.. and you would be the know first to know..what hijacking , distracting and derailing are....







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« Reply #756 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 05:13am »

on Jul 19th, 2010, 04:19am, Sysconfig wrote:
And just what would you say to the "lurking hoaxters?
How do you feel about them.. Just what would you ask them Tommi..? Do you have a stand on that? Do you have a stand on anything ? People that care about people as you say you do,,generally take a stand on something..or would you just continue the usual fawning over what you and Lev think of a masterpiece.?


Let me turn that question around since I can't predict what will turn up here providing they get the chance...

What would you say to them? Would you selfishly defeat everyone's efforts to get insight by dominating the platform and attacking? Thereby closing the door to new arrivals?

You have accused me of lying. That's an attack without validation. Like many you make. You believe I believe the drones are real. That is your reality not mine. I know I can't see my own blind spots real well, but I don't think I've lied about anything here. What business is it of yours anyway what I think? Or what Icarus thinks or DRT? Nobody is going to think the same as you. Obviously Bennett doesn't think the same as you, yet you quote him on one hand then contradict what he said in his article with your subsequent post.

You are nice to Lev in his blog and call him one of us in a previous post then the next thing we see is you turning on everyone like a pit viper. At least I'm consistant. Call that lying if you like, it's your interpretation and I can't do anything about that.

For the most part, I agree with Icarus about the drones. I suspect all of it is 100% hoax but what about that BB drone as well as other factors that even Colin highlighted. It keeps one interested even if it is 100% hoax, or 95%. If your not interested anymore why are you here? And please don't give me that "civic duty to save the world from hoaxes" stuff.. nobody tirades out of civic duty.
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« Reply #757 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 06:58am »

on Jul 19th, 2010, 04:19am, Sysconfig wrote:
And just what would you say to the "lurking hoaxters?
How do you feel about them.. Just what would you ask them Tommi..?


JMO but I think everyone's own MO here will cover all bases when ppl come in, as long as they have a chance.

But my MO would be what my Sicilian grandmother said to me long ago, I just offer them a glass of wine and let them talk.

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« Reply #758 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 8:55pm »

Well if the drones are to completely die someone must nail the final nail in the coffin said John Wayne as he rode off into the sunset of Batjack Productions.

The most interesting thing remaining IMHO is the inventory photo. Now lets see never say never bash his head on that.
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« Reply #759 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 9:44pm »

on Jul 19th, 2010, 8:55pm, Icarus99 wrote:
Well if the drones are to completely die someone must nail the final nail in the coffin said John Wayne as he rode off into the sunset of Batjack Productions.

The most interesting thing remaining IMHO is the inventory photo. Now lets see never say never bash his head on that.





I know you said that elsewhere, and - humor me for a moment, please:

What exactly are the elements that interest you in that inventory photocopy?

As a skilled CG craftsman with an artist's eye, you can reveal the points of interest and of mystery, of what makes it (the inventory) legit or not.

Would love to hear your analysis for real, Lev!
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« Reply #760 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 10:00pm »

Let me get my thoughts together and I will PM you on this and then you can decide without the dictates or ridicule of anyone.
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« Reply #761 on: Jul 19th, 2010, 10:13pm »

Thank you, Lev!

(My HS Junior son wants to get into CG and related digital creative techniques, so any information you send me will be of value to both of us. 'Respect the work' he always says to me...out of the mouth of kids, eh?)
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« Reply #762 on: Jul 20th, 2010, 1:15pm »

I hope you received my PM and that it explains some ideas I have. I can not say the rest are either hoaxes or not. My suspicion is that it is an elaborate hoax, but there are parts of it that still interest me.
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« Reply #763 on: Jul 20th, 2010, 2:28pm »

on Jul 20th, 2010, 1:15pm, Icarus99 wrote:
I created the Birmingham Drone for sure, but there is no way I can say the rest is either a hoax or not.



This one is your's Mr. Smith?


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« Reply #764 on: Jul 20th, 2010, 2:54pm »

I am educated well in the internet now. I am sure that you can understand that. I know nothing of your quote or have long forgotten it. As I have said recently, the internet has taught me to trust no one. Now I see you want to start some sort of game.
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