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« Reply #870 on: Sep 14th, 2010, 5:49pm »

Anyways, very good as always.

Your two alien robots in the top pictures really get to me.. their placement in the scenes is great too.

btw, were those photos or partial or were the backgrounds from scratch, (the ones with the robots)?

The third one down (robot painting) has a photographic look to it.
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« Reply #871 on: Sep 16th, 2010, 6:16pm »

They are all part photo and part extra bits. I appreciate your understanding composure and thank you for your comments. I do not like photoshop and never use it to blend elements it is not required. BTW the robots are CG models that can be posed.
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« Reply #872 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 01:23am »

Your work is very very fine. The expressions given to those robots convey a feeling about them.. You have an excellent eye Icarus. A mastery at putting drama or feelings into your work taken from natural scenes.
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« Reply #873 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 07:20am »

I may have stumbled upon something and I need your help Icarus.

My hardware is an XP Pro OS running a Radion HD 4800 graphics card. I haven't shut down for over 24 hours now. I was playing a video in the background on VLC and brought up your web page to look again at your images.

What I'm seeing in the images on your web page is pretty crazy. It's as if certain black areas in some of your pictures are transparent and the video image in the background is showing through.

I took a screen shot with screen hunter and as you can see, this is something that will not appear once captured:

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So I used my webcam to take some images so others can see what I'm talking about:

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This glitch is even showing up on the photo used in the header here in this forum:


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So, while I've got this bug happening in my PC, I immediately started to try all the drone photos and material from Isaac I had handy. So far I'm seeing this "transparancy", for lack of a better description, showing up only in several photos. Here is a rough capture of one: I will check all of them and try to get images as clearly as possible as the day progresses.

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Obviously if I shut down my machine or close this video I'm possibly going to lose this advantageous bug atm.

If you can give some indication of what type of process was applied to that area in your photo where the video is bleeding through, that may help us know of any processes in the drone images.

I'm going to post this to DRT to help get feedback too.

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« Reply #874 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 08:42am »

One possibility is that the game has changed your video settings. That is quite common and you get posterization due to reduced number of colors or different pallete. If the game is running in a seperate window or session this would affect everything. It can even stay after the game is closed. It's happened to me on PC. Video cards and their drivers get buggy.

The video may be bleeding through colors considered transparent. It does not seem too strange an occurance to me.
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« Reply #875 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 08:51am »

It was 24 hours and in that time I played a bit of Oblivion and then was playing a movie I downloaded on the player VLC. So it is while this movie is up and playing on VLC that I can see this transparancy.

I've taken videos of it though the web cam of several places in the drone photos where this is showing through, it becomes quite apparent when you see the flickering light showing through in these areas.

Ive brought up all of Isaacs documents and it doesn't show through.

I've brought up the original thumper image from Lev and it doesn't show through.

In Lev's blog the top image has NO transparacy showing through.
The brass plate and other pictures do not either.
Only the ones with the robot have show through.

So far, it appears to show though only in certain dark areas on certain photos I bring up.

Other photos with just as dark areas has no show through.

I've sent the videos I made of this to OTF. I will send them to you too.

Waiting to know if any particular process has caused some areas of some photos to behave this way.

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« Reply #876 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 08:52am »

These will not appear on screencaptures which is why Lev started using screencaptures after I posted similar on all his images which were at one point all jpg or bmp, including his original avatars as masker 33 . If you use the blur brush uou can get similar effect, it may have been gimp or Photoshoshops inexpensive version.. if one were erasing a stained glass top on of another image. The only explanation given by Wayne at ATS was one can get it iff like taking fotos of images on a xmas ornament. Not very satisfactory..but that was all he could determine. You Should try it on Kris too, like his last foto at omf.. see if this is a localized effect particular to these fotos only and non drone pctures..which will tell you its a glitch...Some artifacts are particular to graphics cards..resembling black lettering, but nothing comapared to the images and scenery I had.
It may be just a process he used that is inexpensive and easy to do, which won't tell you who unless they put their mugs and signatures in the images as well. He only used his mug on one image in the Lev Gallery ..A globe with his or a crew member, image on it.on a stand..interocitor style. A few of the past images also had images of rabbits..and faces but nothing pointing to who or what.
It may as well have been a rabbit chase.
If we see them now, its no accident, and he wants us to see exactly what he wants us to see and do.
Another rabbit to chase. Good Luck!

Edit..I just noted you used it on this forums headers..if you getting same imagery on non drone and other fotos..then it has to be card related. and you'll find plenty on that, even happens to cameras I believe.

I was wondering when lev will put a higher res pic of his brass plated image..rather unlike him to put a crappy res image of anything.



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« Reply #877 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 09:10am »

Here is an example of it showing up in salads graphic, but not in the one enhanced by lev which I had put together:

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The funny thing about this, is it is only showing up in certain photos.. maybe it is just color mapping as OTF says but I wonder if a process is involved, because the other photos I've checked which is a lot do not have this bleedthrough, only in darkest areas on some, darkest areas on others, no.
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« Reply #878 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 09:27am »

Some of them can look very arty..even surreal..Some great art was smuggled like that at one time..one image (painting) over another..
Nice intermission

Tis may be the only time we see his face..looks young for someone that can talk shop about interocitors
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It is confusing Tomi..Trust me I been there..I have some of Levs other mast heads at other sites like DR Sterns..and old nlog..Maybe he donatded some pix here..I don't know I think Chris donated some to OMF I believe. So I would try another set way away from any of the players..then if nothing..you can ask why only these players.
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« Reply #879 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 10:00am »

No bleedthrough on that one sys. I downloaded all the Chad images and checked each and only see this transparancy bleeding through on two of the them and only in the darkest areas. It's probably a color table corruption as OTF said to me.

Ahhh big dummie me.. I have just realised that there can't be artifacts in jpgs.. I don't think.. huh
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« Reply #880 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 10:03am »

This one is a screen cap shot..I was only posting it to show the face
Ill make a list if a few and port them later for you ..I'm at work and have a prg to do..
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« Reply #881 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 10:09am »

I know whose face that is sys, but I can't remember his name. He was a blogger who wrote a scathing article about the drones and is a hot shot Photoshop user. I'm sure drdil knows who that is. I think lev took his picture and made him look like this, if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #882 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 10:10am »

on Sep 17th, 2010, 10:03am, Sysconfig wrote:
This one is a screen cap shot..I was only posting it to show the face
Ill make a list if a few and port them later for you ..I'm at work and have a prg to do..
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Hey Lev you still part your hair down middle?..must have long hair..are you crosseyed or is that just looking too close at the lens..



ahhh thank for that update. Tommi...on that blogger..
The faces i got in my other pix looked more llike someone on Starhammer team..but I would like to see that blogger reference, If its still up, as these people , especially Lev..know how to work both sides of the fence. By himself Lev can be a small army, as we already have seen elsewhere. writing a scathing article or post at the onset is part of the polarization process in creating buzz and having a crowd gather.
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« Reply #883 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 10:40am »

on Sep 17th, 2010, 10:09am, tomi01uk wrote:
I know whose face that is sys, but I can't remember his name. He was a blogger who wrote a scathing article about the drones and is a hot shot Photoshop user. I'm sure drdil knows who that is. I think lev took his picture and made him look like this, if I remember correctly.

http://www.dronehoax.com/analysis/biedny_ritzman.htm

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« Reply #884 on: Sep 17th, 2010, 11:13am »

hahahah David Biedny..lol..Lev you are so morbid putting the poor mans head on a veritable pike. You do have a sense of humor!!! You can't deny it... For sure you have an entire collection of trophies. I'm sure when you used the Timex analogy you were really talking about yourself, not Isaac..just keeps on Tickin even under asphalt..ten years later. Kudos. grin grin grin Thanx Doc that was swell. That head had me perplexed for the longest...it didnt fit the profile I was building at the time..this certainly makes things better for me.
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