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« Reply #1365 on: Nov 8th, 2010, 05:30am »

I dont think we can blame us for wondering if the truth will ever be told to us.One poster suggested that the government wont do or say anything that will cause it to lose power.I believe that.What Im saying is its best they say Nothing then to lie to us,stay quiet until you decide the people should know the whole truth and nothing but the truth.I cant imagine the government actually doing that but I wouldnt settle for anything less.
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« Reply #1366 on: Nov 8th, 2010, 08:03am »

I just joined this site last week and thought i would look around i have had my personal expiriences in the past a case of missing time and strange marks on my body also with vivid memories of converation with entities and also being told true from the wrong i also remember finding my self in a different location than what i had last remember being at and that the time had not changed from when i had left 2 hours earlier, on an other few accounts i have seen U.F.O's on close range as 100 feet away which happened 2 nights in a row almost a year ago and shortly after that i went out in search of U.F.O's and sighted an orb which i tried to follow and my car switched off twice with a strong smell of sulphur both times. I have read up on allot of cases where these things took place more so then not and the symptoms are all quite the same as what i whitnessed and remembered. I am interested in writing the whole story in more detail later on but for now Hello to all this looks like a nice site i hope to read lots of stuff on here thanks Bye Hatchetman
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« Reply #1367 on: Nov 8th, 2010, 09:14am »

on Oct 28th, 2010, 1:07pm, jahara wrote:
I totally understand the proof thing, I know a lot of stuff that I cannot prove to anyone else though I Know it. I have just been exploring the whole assumption that UFO's are all from outer space. Maybe some of them are, but I think some of them are not. I think a lot of stuff gets put into the same category that does not beleong there because of people's beleifs and perspectives, fears and hopes. An example is the people that disappear in a certain area of South America. Occassionally one person will return wild eyed and traumatized months after everyone has assumed the person is dead. The stories that the person tells don't make sense and some people want it to be about alien abductions (alien as in e.t.) others think it is something else that has been around as long or longer than humans. The same with the Djinn stories, some thing the Djinn are really e.t.s and some think the stories of ufo abductions are really Djinn.


You make excellent points. I agree with you that not all UFO's are the product of alien technology, and not all disappearances or even abductions are done by E.T.! Actually I'm of a mind that the vast number of reported abductions are carried out by secret government forces utilizing mind altering drugs to create a belief on the part of the experiencer that he/she has in fact been abducted by an alien race. I also know there are other mysterious (to us) beings/life-forms in the cosmos that are not specifically alien races from other planetary systems. The only encounters I can know for sure are contact with alien races are those I've experienced myself. Everything else is unknown wink
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« Reply #1368 on: Nov 8th, 2010, 6:32pm »

I hope the truth will be told soon about E.T.'s by our U.S. Federal government. But some in the U.S. Federal government are reluctant to admit that the E.T. Space Force is more superior in technology than the U.S. Air Force.
Somebody in or U.S. government has to make the first move.
Should Pres. Obama leak the information about E.T.'s, which is probably the most highly classified secret of all time in the history of our federal government; I expect he will be labeled as as hero by many, [including myself] and a wretched religious outcast by other's. Which some U.S. citizen's believe he already is by labeling him as a Muslim; which I believe to be a case of religious intolerance. So what does Pres. Obama have to lose?
Obama's gain will be government for the people, and by the people; especially in the right to freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.
Pres. Obama will have to deal with a majority of right-wing Christian Evangelical groups that dominate the U.S. Air Force and a portion of our U.S. public; that I'm sure that they will be against releasing any Fed. Gov. information about E.T.'s.
If I were Pres. of the United States, there would be a no-holes barred attempt to communicate with the other-worlder's; and a realistic approach to "E.T. truth" to the demanding U.S. public.
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« Reply #1369 on: Nov 9th, 2010, 04:04am »

on Nov 8th, 2010, 6:32pm, Erno wrote:
I hope the truth will be told soon about E.T.'s by our U.S. Federal government. But some in the U.S. Federal government are reluctant to admit that the E.T. Space Force is more superior in technology than the U.S. Air Force.
Somebody in or U.S. government has to make the first move.
Should Pres. Obama leak the information about E.T.'s, which is probably the most highly classified secret of all time in the history of our federal government; I expect he will be labeled as as hero by many, [including myself] and a wretched religious outcast by other's. Which some U.S. citizen's believe he already is by labeling him as a Muslim; which I believe to be a case of religious intolerance. So what does Pres. Obama have to lose?
Obama's gain will be government for the people, and by the people; especially in the right to freedom of the press, and freedom of religion.
Pres. Obama will have to deal with a majority of right-wing Christian Evangelical groups that dominate the U.S. Air Force and a portion of our U.S. public; that I'm sure that they will be against releasing any Fed. Gov. information about E.T.'s.
If I were Pres. of the United States, there would be a no-holes barred attempt to communicate with the other-worlder's; and a realistic approach to "E.T. truth" to the demanding U.S. public.



But Erno,havent you forgotten something? What about the FEAR it will unleash.Those of us that have followed the subject for years and years will tell you that weve all read stories of chases by our air force whereby weve been left in the dust not even coming close to these things.Firepower,weve never seen it from them but many are guessing its awesome. My first question is WHY,why are they here,and is it true they have been abducting people for years and so on.I think in the whole world people of the ufo community will be the only one rejoicing that the truth of the matter has finally been told,the rest of the world may very well recoil at the announcement.
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« Reply #1370 on: Nov 9th, 2010, 7:08pm »

Please, let me try to answer, Carolnistri.
Though I'm not claiming to be an expert on this subject, I do consider myself to be a Ufologist.
I fear the United States government more than any E.T. from another planet; especially since the latest Congressional election, which makes me very afraid.
I believe our Earth is a rare jewel in our Galaxy, because our territory is located in one of the outer spiral arm's of our Milky Way. Anything much closer to the center of our Galaxy, I believe, is mostly uninhabitable.
Whether, if our Earth and it's inhabitant's are on the E.T.'s "shopping list,"? I don't know.
But I do believe that they are trying to send us a message, buy just revealing there Starship's, the acrobatic antic's and there light show's before our very eye's!
That message the E.T.'s are trying to give us, I believe, is HOPE.
Hope: That they are very interested in us, because our war-like cultures are on the precipice of nuclear Armageddon; there-by if we can get past this violent-age without destroying ourselves and the Earth, we may yet get a chance too travel to the Star's and hopefully be accepted as non-violent member's of the Galactic Community!
Hope: That there is a type of unlimited energy resources out there that can sustain our Earth and it's species far into the future!
Hope: That anybody that has evolved to travel too the Star's have evolved beyond any form's of agression other than to defend themselves!
Hope: That savage culture's here on Earth realize that the use of atomic weapon's here on Earth are an obsolete form of firepower to our spacebrother's!
Finally, I believe that the E.T.'s are playing a game of oneupmanship, buy showing off there Starship's to show how superior they are , and acting as benevolent being's, I hope.
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« Reply #1371 on: Nov 9th, 2010, 8:57pm »

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I don't think Presidents have much say in this.

Besides, there may be nothing to disclose. Except to maybe admit that they really don't know for sure where these craft are coming from. We assume they're coming directly from outerspace. What if they're not? What if they are coming from other dimensions? Just something to think about.

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« Reply #1372 on: Nov 10th, 2010, 04:40am »

on Nov 9th, 2010, 7:08pm, Erno wrote:
Please, let me try to answer, Carolnistri.
Though I'm not claiming to be an expert on this subject, I do consider myself to be a Ufologist.
I fear the United States government more than any E.T. from another planet; especially since the latest Congressional election, which makes me very afraid.
I believe our Earth is a rare jewel in our Galaxy, because our territory is located in one of the outer spiral arm's of our Milky Way. Anything much closer to the center of our Galaxy, I believe, is mostly uninhabitable.
Whether, if our Earth and it's inhabitant's are on the E.T.'s "shopping list,"? I don't know.
But I do believe that they are trying to send us a message, buy just revealing there Starship's, the acrobatic antic's and there light show's before our very eye's!
That message the E.T.'s are trying to give us, I believe, is HOPE.
Hope: That they are very interested in us, because our war-like cultures are on the precipice of nuclear Armageddon; there-by if we can get past this violent-age without destroying ourselves and the Earth, we may yet get a chance too travel to the Star's and hopefully be accepted as non-violent member's of the Galactic Community!
Hope: That there is a type of unlimited energy resources out there that can sustain our Earth and it's species far into the future!
Hope: That anybody that has evolved to travel too the Star's have evolved beyond any form's of agression other than to defend themselves!
Hope: That savage culture's here on Earth realize that the use of atomic weapon's here on Earth are an obsolete form of firepower to our spacebrother's!
Finally, I believe that the E.T.'s are playing a game of oneupmanship, buy showing off there Starship's to show how superior they are , and acting as benevolent being's, I hope.


What a lovely post Erno,I hope your right.
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« Reply #1373 on: Nov 10th, 2010, 06:27am »

on Nov 10th, 2010, 04:40am, carolnistri wrote:
What a lovely post Erno,I hope your right.
Yes a wonderful post. I know there are people out there that say and maybe to them it was a aweful encounter they had with the beings.I am not one of them and some others on here also not.But with all the activity over the years of the beings coming down here.With all the writtings of there up to no good.Why is it humans time after time that have shot at them trying to kill them mutilate them in some lab not them to us.Now if there is some list of deaths associated with them not a list of people who decided to get away from there family life.But a list of poor humans whos bodys have been thrown out in a field like some of the mutilated cows they find.Where is it and did they have to kill all the people who were involved in finding the bodys.None of this is anywhere.Because it did not and is not happening.The only death that apears to being going on down here is from other humans or maybe a hungrey bear or shark.But most of all deaths down here are from humans.If the beings did all of a sudden decide to go human on us we would be all gone. They may even just decide to sterilize us.This way no more humans and we will just die out.No children being born no life.Did not kill us with some cruel method just spayed us like a cat or dog.I think that mankind needs to be nice first not kill and figure it out later.I think everyone has to be prepared for the time that they come down what will your reaction be.If your friends convince you by just talking with no facts will you join them grab a gun and shoot to kill if you see them.Or will you just be nervous and just think well here it goes honey stay back no matter what happens take the kids in the house and then just say I cannot believe here you are.My name is and what is your name.I am glad to meet you.I have to say I am a little nervous standing here with you like this.I think that would be the most awesome thing anyone in this life could experience to make friends with beings that are so different and yet compassionate enough not to go human and just kill us.
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« Reply #1374 on: Nov 10th, 2010, 08:51am »

Um,Huh? undecided
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on Nov 10th, 2010, 08:51am, carolnistri wrote:
Um,Huh? undecided
Yes I agree it must be the human in me to rant and rave sorry:[
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« Reply #1376 on: Nov 12th, 2010, 2:34pm »

Here is a link to a very intelligent, well-researched article regarding the ET contact phenomenon. Discernment is the watchword.

http://montalk.net/alien/145/discerning-alien-disinformation-part-1

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« Reply #1377 on: Nov 14th, 2010, 1:12pm »

on Nov 8th, 2010, 09:14am, Seeker wrote:
You make excellent points. I agree with you that not all UFO's are the product of alien technology, and not all disappearances or even abductions are done by E.T.! Actually I'm of a mind that the vast number of reported abductions are carried out by secret government forces utilizing mind altering drugs to create a belief on the part of the experiencer that he/she has in fact been abducted by an alien race. I also know there are other mysterious (to us) beings/life-forms in the cosmos that are not specifically alien races from other planetary systems. The only encounters I can know for sure are contact with alien races are those I've experienced myself. Everything else is unknown wink


Yes, I've had experience with the secret military ops and I have no problem with the idea that most abductions are really done by some secret military op. Even Whitley Strieber has mentioned that he thinks about this based on some of his experiences. He doesn't say it is happening, just that it might be, since his memories are so mixed up.
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« Reply #1378 on: Nov 15th, 2010, 4:50pm »

Certainly there are faked abductions conducted by military/intelligence people. In my view it is to muddy the waters and create dissension--the old divide-and-conquer strategy.

However, my research reveals that these faked abductions are a rarity. I say this because I have recovered the memories of over 75 abductions of my own and I have worked with 44 other abductees (45 counting myself).

Out of these 45 people, 3 recovered memories of being taken underground into a military/alien facility. I am one of those three abductees and I cover my abductions involving military and Grays (working together) in my second book.

Here's a link to the exact page under the heading "Underground Base Abductions": http://www.matrixrevealed.com/JOURNEY%20TO%20DISCOVERY%2020.htm. I have explained on my home page why I have taken out all references to the exact location of this base.

It is also important to note that none of the 45 people (myself included) recovered any memories of a purely human faked abduction by military or "intelligence" (without any ETs being involved).

If anyone out there has worked with abductees to recover abduction memories I would like to compare statistics on this. However, the information from CIA-affiliated abduction researchers is not reliable.

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« Reply #1379 on: Nov 28th, 2010, 04:01am »

Trumen, this has got to be one of the very best articles Ive read in a long long time,I just put it on my favorites thanks for sharing this.

http://montalk.net/alien/145/discerning-alien-disinformation-part-1
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