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« Reply #1425 on: Feb 21st, 2011, 03:57am »

on Feb 20th, 2011, 10:40am, hiflier wrote:
Hello Katterfelto,

OK. If all goes well, then EVERYONE will be the first to know- either way, ET or no ET. And, since I'm a non-believer and did not author the notice, IF ETs exists then, maybe I'll get lucky and they will ignore me.
Since you say you are a none believer then it appears the ETs are ignoring you .
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« Reply #1426 on: Feb 21st, 2011, 5:26pm »

Hello Katterfelto,

Hmm.........good point!
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« Reply #1427 on: Feb 24th, 2011, 5:01pm »

on Feb 19th, 2011, 5:33pm, hiflier wrote:
Also, we are NOT asking for a landing, as quite frankly I believe this would upset a great many people, and the appearance in the sky, for some, would be upsetting enough. The picture involved is really no different than a young child's first look out of a window, and learning that there is more to his or her world than the house they live in. As the child grows, the picture of the world becomes larger still; this is just the next step in that picture's enlargement.


While I understand the spirit of this post and that it was presented in a gentle manner, I have to respectfully disagree. 'Upset' is exactly what this dormant society needs because that's the only way they will believe it, whatever 'it' is. I don't think we can honestly say that we're maturing as a species if we cannot handle the notion that we're not alone in this universe, and bury our heads in the sand when unimaginable information is presented to us. I believe the vast majority of the human race is more than ready for contact with another intelligent species. Perhaps it would humble us just enough to take better care of ourselves and our planet. As far as the government's involvement goes, I tend to believe what Stephen Hawking said-- something along the lines of "~ If the governments of the world were actually able to cover something like this up for more than sixty years then it would be the first thing they've [ever] done right."


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I believe the time has come for us as a people to grow up and meet the neighbors.


that's exactly what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #1428 on: Mar 11th, 2011, 8:29pm »

Hello everyone, I joined because I have been wanting to share some interesting experiences with people who may understand. I'll start with this one:

In the summer of 1997 or 1998 a friend and I took a drive in the desert north west of Carlsbad NM. Our car broke down. It was a heavy older model Ford LTD. We had to push the car up a fairly steep hill... we barely made it. We coasted to the edge of a community outside of Carlsbad called "happy valley". A man walking down the street came to help us. The man was barefoot, he crawled up and perched himself on the edge of the hood looking down on the engine. Clouds seemed to appear out of nowhere, rather quickly. Unusual looking clouds. The guy checking the engine looked up and said "never mind them, that's just cloud cover". I kind of freaked out and did not know what to say. I felt a strange sensation that seemed to be coming from the clouds... kind of like a sine wave of some sort of magnetism going thru my body. Like a large sine wave first hitting me in the forehead then in the upperback, in front pelvis area and the back of my knees. The man checking out the car told us that our battery was dead. He had a small device that looked like it was made of black metal with a spiral down the middle. He said he was not sure how it worked, that it had something to do with the earths magnetic field. He attached the device to the battery terminals and said "it will get you to town, but it wont last forever, you will need to get a new battery".

Years later I asked a worker at AutoZone about the device. I wanted one in case my battery ever died. The worker said he never heard of anything like it. Come to find out no one knows of this device. I called my friend and asked him what he did with the device and he does not know. To make matters even more strange, in 2002 I learned that the man who helped us is my biological father.
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« Reply #1429 on: Mar 12th, 2011, 04:20am »

didnt take a few months after all.
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« Reply #1430 on: Apr 16th, 2011, 10:34am »

I have yet to find information on this forum for personal protection. However I am new here and will need time to get used to the set-up.

At the other forum, which I am a member here is what they have to say:

http://www.alien-ufos.com/personal-ufo-alien-experiences-alien-dreams/38749-stop-aliens-now-super-mix.html

They talk about: AlliesOfHumanity.org , Marshall Vian Summers, Stephen Hawkins, Steps To Knowledge, etc.

I do take it with a grain of sand, but it's the only material out there that speaks of what we need to do.

If you find information like this, please let me know, or if you think someone here needs it, or find it useful. I am looking for people who are tired of the same talk, and want action. This action will be at the personal level.

I have my experience and can tell you, that I have read enough books, seen enough videos, and heard enough people. Same all talk, talk , talk..how do we stop them!

I will go further to say that for people that need solid evidence that ETs are really here...well, it's not enough for you that 400plus ex government officials, including PHds, Drs, and basically the smartest people on the planet, came forward and said they exist..if that is not enough evidence for you, than you are living in a fantasy...this stuff is real and it look like we are in danger.



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« Reply #1431 on: Apr 16th, 2011, 12:57pm »

on Apr 16th, 2011, 10:34am, UniversalThought wrote:
I have yet to find information on this forum for personal protection. However I am new here and will need time to get used to the set-up.

At the other forum, which I am a member here is what they have to say:

http://www.alien-ufos.com/personal-ufo-alien-experiences-alien-dreams/38749-stop-aliens-now-super-mix.html

They talk about: AlliesOfHumanity.org , Marshall Vian Summers, Stephen Hawkins, Steps To Knowledge, etc.

I do take it with a grain of sand, but it's the only material out there that speaks of what we need to do.

If you find information like this, please let me know, or if you think someone here needs it, or find it useful. I am looking for people who are tired of the same talk, and want action. This action will be at the personal level.

I have my experience and can tell you, that I have read enough books, seen enough videos, and heard enough people. Same all talk, talk , talk..how do we stop them!

I will go further to say that for people that need solid evidence that ETs are really here...well, it's not enough for you that 400plus ex government officials, including PHds, Drs, and basically the smartest people on the planet, came forward and said they exist..if that is not enough evidence for you, than you are living in a fantasy...this stuff is real and it look like we are in danger.





There is no protection for the individual. If they want you, they'll get you. You can only hope that your free will is respected, and all you can do is demand that. It may be that some ETs are protective against others who have an agenda that we don't find appealing. As far as protecting yourself without outside help, I don't think there is a defense. Just hope someone is looking out for you or that you have somehow earned the respect of those who might otherwise force you into an unpleasant situation.

Oh, and it's Hawking. How hard is it for people to get that right?
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« Reply #1432 on: Apr 16th, 2011, 2:13pm »

on Apr 16th, 2011, 12:57pm, JonCurcio wrote:
There is no protection for the individual. If they want you, they'll get you. You can only hope that your free will is respected, and all you can do is demand that. It may be that some ETs are protective against others who have an agenda that we don't find appealing. As far as protecting yourself without outside help, I don't think there is a defense. Just hope someone is looking out for you or that you have somehow earned the respect of those who might otherwise force you into an unpleasant situation.

Oh, and it's Hawking. How hard is it for people to get that right?
I agree some people do not want the experience to happen.But there are some of us who love the contact.I wish there was a way for the ones who did not want the experience to happen to make it stop.But for a selfish reason.For the ones of us who want the expereinece to get more time with the beings.
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« Reply #1433 on: Apr 23rd, 2011, 04:03am »

Hello trumancash,

I've been reading some of your stuff and find it very strange. A non-believer would call some of this stuff just plain crazy and if you truly believe what you write then what are you smoking.

That said I can't say I'm a non-believer having my own close encounter. It was 1964 with my two brothers and two of us got within 30 yards of a giant spacecraft which I always remembered at around 100 feet in diameter but have since with the aid of google maps estimate the craft at 150 feet.

I haven't talked to anyone about this for over 47 years until a few months ago. My brothers after discussing it many times for over a year after the event suddenly lost all memory.

Only after careful discussion and trying to jog the memory of my one brother who witnessed the craft with me was he finally able to recall the events leading up to and right after the visual sighting. He initially thought I'd lost my mind when I told him the story three months ago. He denied everything until I was able to awaken his memory to events that happened the very next morning.

I knew if I could jog his memory either before or after the actual event that at least he would accept the possibility I was telling the truth. Finally I got a call from him and he said he now remembered the events of the very next morning and explained in detail getting up at daybreak with less then three hours sleep and checking for evidence of an alien space craft landing.

He actually said he remembered that part initially when I first called him but the fact he didn't remember the night before scared the hell out him and he wanted to sort it out before saying anything. The fact his wife and our older sister doesn't believe any of it and are very vocal about it also silenced him.

I was able to put him through a sort of time line on his next call back to me. We live 650 miles apart so this was all done by phone which was probably better for him as I can read him like a book and he knows it.

He now remembers everything except the actual sighting but I know I can jog this memory loose as well in time. Showing various pictures of crafts with only one as the correct one may jog something loose.

My sister and I have always been close and I've managed to turn her around and she now believes I'm telling the truth. She is afraid that my brothers remembering this event will not be good for them. I totally disagree as I think they already have memories that they have hidden all these years. Certainly not as vivid as mine but then I have to ask why not as this is an event someone shouldn't ever forget.

I was 15 1/2 at the time and they are both 23 months younger. We were a gang of three and nobody in town messed with us. We were tough kids and had tough friends. We weren't nasty or anything of the sort but we knew how to fight. My one brother and I was attacked earlier by two thugs in their early twenties for no reason. When the smoke cleared they both lay on the ground with black eyes and broken noses. There were dozens of witnesses and word got around quick in a small town. My other brother was actually stronger inheriting my father's big hands and big arms.

The reason for the fight story will become clearer to you as read the whole story. On the night of the event at the initial sight of only the very top of the spacecraft sent these fearless fighters to their knees with fear. This was from 250 yards away from a back window of our house. I had better then 20-20 vision back then and they both had vision problems. I saw something but it was absolutely nothing that would have made me react as they both reacted.

At the time it puzzled me because this reaction was totally out of character. I loaded a shotgun as I believed thieves were stealing stuff from a storage building on the back of our property. I headed out the back door into the dark night with a flashlight in one hand and a gun in the other. Whoever it was down there was in for a rude awakening.

I stopped abruptly 10 yards from the back door as my brothers hadn't followed me. I swore a blue streak and went back into the kitchen and asked WTF was going on with you two girls. My one brother Don was shaking so badly he couldn't stand up. My other brother Dave was looking out the window mumbling it doesn't look like a car over and and over. I was not a patient young man and told them to suck it up and follow me if they knew what was good for them. I again proceeded out the back door and again neither followed. This time I was really pissed off and went back in the house and said listen you two I have a loaded gun and I won't let anybody harm you so WTF are you wimps afraid of the boogie man.

Dave finally agreed and followed reluctantly with Don mumbling continually I'm not going anywhere over and over again. We left him behind and headed towards the glowing light on a slight angle staying behind the five buildings that made up our motel. The motel area and driveway was well lighted and you could see well over 150 yards. The back of the units were dark but I did have a flashlight. Dave rushed out ten yards ahead of me and peered around the last building into our back field. He immediately came running back with a look I'll never forget and started to shake all over. I said "what did you see?" Dave said "I don't know WTF it is but I'm getting the hell out of here right now".

He proceeded to start running towards the house and I grabbed him and told him to wait which he did reluctantly. I then peered around the corner with my shotgun and said holy F**king Sh*t. I looked back at Dave and he said come on let's get out of here. I said wait just one more minute. I leaned the shotgun up against the building and took a long second look. I guess I was just too cocky too be scared and turned back and asked Dave if he thought we could get closer. He said hell no and took off for the house.

Feeling quite alone and out gunned with nobody watching my back I decided it was time to leave to fight another day. There really wasn't anything in that shed worth dying for anyway. I was really fast in those days and caught Dave before he hit the back door. We walked into the kitchen to find Don leaning on the stove where we left him. He walked to the window and was looking towards the craft and asked what did we see? Dave said you don't want to know. I proceeded to explain what we saw in detail and he interrupted and said that's it I'm out of here and headed for the front door. I stopped him in his tracks saying do you really want to go out there alone? I unloaded the gun and leaned it in the corner of the front of office and said let's go to the bar up the road where we know there's people. They both agreed and we ran full speed the whole 250 yards breaking all known existing and future records for that distance.

I being quite fast at that time in my life with a 10.4 in the hundred yard dash I was quite surprised they were right on my heels. I would have said before that night that neither one could run all that well and Dave might hit 12.0 and Don would be lucky making 14.0. It's funny how fear suddenly makes a slow runner into a track star. I smiled when I turned around 20 yards from the front door to see them right on my tail. We busted through the front door and scared the hell out of everybody sitting at the bar. The owner in his late 50's was tending bar and his wife was working the back table area. They were from Poland and he spoke with a thick accent. I waved to him and headed quickly around the end of the bar to the back area where there were tables and chairs.

We sat down at a table by the front window. His wife came running over and said what's wrong looking very concerned. I smiled and said nothing is wrong we are just winded from running a race. She looked at Don who was white as a sheet looking straight down at the floor and shaking like a leaf. Then she looked at Dave who was also very pale and staring straight ahead out the window. I must interject that these owners were neighbors and friends. They knew us and also knew something wasn't right. This was also in Pennsylvania with very strict laws about minors in bars. She could have asked us to leave but didn't. They were very nice people and were concerned that something was very wrong. They knew my Father very well who passed away at 38 years old the year before. I asked her for three cokes which she quickly brought us and proceeded again with the I know somethings wrong. I then asked her for three bags of pretzels and again she brought them quickly rushing back to our table with a very concerned look on her face. Her husband kept looking through the serving window. We told her nothing and we slowly ate and drank as we didn't have any more money. We stayed there from around 10:30-11:00 till almost the 2:00 am closing time.

The craft was now gone and we fixed ourselves something to eat and went to bed. I told my brothers I'd wake them at dawn to check for any evidence the space craft might have left behind.

The next morning I woke up Dave and Don very quietly as my Mother's bedroom was directly below on the first floor. Don abruptly sat up in bed wide eyed and stating very loudly he wasn't going down there and repeating this again as I'm trying to shut him up speaking very softly and motioning with my hands to stay in bed. Dave got up saying alright and without hesitation got dressed and followed me down stairs.

My Mother came out of her bedroom and wanted to know why we were up so early. I told her we went to bed early and was up to take a brisk walk. She said alright since she was up she was going to have a cup of coffee and then she was going back to bed. We headed for our coats and then headed out the back door. We took a straight line for the gravel road on our property line that ran directly to where the craft had landed. Four round imprints on the flattened grass was all the evidence.

Would you think it was normal to forget this?
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« Reply #1434 on: May 1st, 2011, 1:39pm »

Update to previous post.

I had only estimated the spacecraft's size and distances but decided yesterday to use Google Earth to view the landing location to see if I could scale the measurements. I had tried this before but couldn't get the scale right. My plan was to see if I could print a picture of an aerial view and then draw in the spacecraft. My family has not owned this property for 46 years and I have not lived in the area for 21 years. I did build a house 10 miles away and lived there for 18 years. I knew the dimensions of this property and used that to scale the other.

I was looking at the property where the landing took place and saw something very startling. I could see an outline of a circle in the field exactly where the craft had landed. A lot of things had changed on the property but the field looked untouched. The huge expanse of lawn that was in front of the field was now a grape vineyard but the exact landing site was still there. The farmer was obviously driving over the one side of the circle to tend to his vineyard but the rest of circle is still there.

I really don't know if this is just a case of other factors causing the existing circle but I find it interesting. The existing circle is 143 feet in diameter. I had originally from memory said the spacecraft was around 100 feet or over and had revised the estimate to 150 feet.

The link below shows the circle in the field. The other areas are grape vineyards or apple vineyards and that's why you see the lines running top to bottom. Remember this was 47 years ago that this landing took place.

<http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.195055,-79.896155&spn=0.001647,0.004128&t=f&z=19&ecpose=42.19505455,-79.89615453,580.83,-2.685,0,0&lci=com.panoramio.all>

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HERE IS A SKETCH OF WHAT LANDED THERE.

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« Reply #1435 on: May 7th, 2011, 4:26pm »

We have a new UFO club here in Jalisco, Mexico.

Sociedad_Investigadora_Alpha_Centauri@hotmail.com

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« Reply #1436 on: Jul 29th, 2011, 12:46am »

UFO sightings in Australia ... with VIDEO! rolleyes

http://www.katherinetimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/ufo-spotted-over-northern-australia/2242442.aspx
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« Reply #1437 on: Aug 3rd, 2011, 10:11pm »

UFO caught on camera in Australia. Check it out!

http://www.katherinetimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/ufo-caught-on-camera/2248356.aspx?storypage=0
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« Reply #1438 on: Aug 5th, 2011, 4:44pm »

on Mar 11th, 2011, 8:29pm, camayleon wrote:
Hello everyone, I joined because I have been wanting to share some interesting experiences with people who may understand. I'll start with this one:

In the summer of 1997 or 1998 a friend and I took a drive in the desert north west of Carlsbad NM. Our car broke down. It was a heavy older model Ford LTD. We had to push the car up a fairly steep hill... we barely made it. We coasted to the edge of a community outside of Carlsbad called "happy valley". A man walking down the street came to help us. The man was barefoot, he crawled up and perched himself on the edge of the hood looking down on the engine. Clouds seemed to appear out of nowhere, rather quickly. Unusual looking clouds. The guy checking the engine looked up and said "never mind them, that's just cloud cover". I kind of freaked out and did not know what to say. I felt a strange sensation that seemed to be coming from the clouds... kind of like a sine wave of some sort of magnetism going thru my body. Like a large sine wave first hitting me in the forehead then in the upperback, in front pelvis area and the back of my knees. The man checking out the car told us that our battery was dead. He had a small device that looked like it was made of black metal with a spiral down the middle. He said he was not sure how it worked, that it had something to do with the earths magnetic field. He attached the device to the battery terminals and said "it will get you to town, but it wont last forever, you will need to get a new battery".

Years later I asked a worker at AutoZone about the device. I wanted one in case my battery ever died. The worker said he never heard of anything like it. Come to find out no one knows of this device. I called my friend and asked him what he did with the device and he does not know. To make matters even more strange, in 2002 I learned that the man who helped us is my biological father.



Wow. Amazing story. How did you find out it was your father?
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« Reply #1439 on: Aug 16th, 2011, 10:02pm »

Here are some of the proofs that aliens really exist. UFO sightings
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