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« Reply #30 on: Dec 14th, 2002, 1:32pm »

I watched a programe tonight on the Discovery-SCi-trek channel called Science of the Impossible it delbt with life in space and whether it exsisted it spoke with many leading scientists who mostly agreed that there is lif out there even if it's only microbs the programe tryed to work out what aliens might look like working out how there home planet enviroment would shape there evolution thought they did sa that if you ran evolution again on earth you wouldnt necessary ly get the same result Towards the end it deblt breifly with the UFO sighting
s and abductions and according to these scientists we are all having dilusions aleins have never visted earth and all these sightings are from people who are going through a hard time in there life and there brain conjures up these imagies. Well we had to expect the program makers to go the saft route and ridicule us. If the program is shown in the US or where ever i suggest you watch it it was quite interesting although the bit at the end spoilt the program but hey you can't have everything.

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« Reply #31 on: Dec 14th, 2002, 4:34pm »

For some reason as I was reading your post I was reminded of the Drake Equation. If you aren't familiar with it there's some good info at Seti's site at:
http://www.seti-inst.edu/science/drake-bg.html


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« Reply #32 on: Dec 16th, 2002, 5:10pm »

STAR TREK PERSONALITY TEST

To which of the Star Trek alien races
are you most similar? (Physical appearance not with standing.) Answer
the following questions with the first answer that comes to you, and
then tally up the score to find the character of your "inner alien".

1. When a friend accidentally bumps their head,
I am compelled to:

A) laugh.

B) analyse and explain the nature of the accident to them, and suggest
possible ways to avoid such mishaps in the future.

C) search the area for drops of their blood.

D) do what I can to further insure their demise.


2. When I see a cute, cuddly animal, I want to:

A) eat it.

B) observe it to catalogue biological information.

C) kill, stuff, and sell it.

D) devise a way to implant it with powerful explosives to be delivered
to unsuspecting victims.

3. When I am angry, I most often:

A) challenge the person who has angered me to a duel of honor.

B) get in touch with the nature of the offense and rationalize the
situation.

C) blame someone more successful than I.

D) take it out on someone weaker than I.


4. When I become sexually aroused, I:

A) assail my beloved with erotic punches.

B) remind myself that my reproductive pattern comes in seven year
cycles.

C) try to find ways to satisfy my desires and make a profit at the same
time.

D) conquer and subdue the object of my desire.


5. As I look toward the future, I envision a world:

A) kneeling before me in adoration of my honor.

B) in the orderly continuation of existing physical and bio-rhythmic
patterns.

C) that I can buy and sell with my personal wealth.

D) of only me, me, ME!


Scoring your results.

If you chose only "A" answers,
you are a Klingon.

If you chose only "B" answers,
you are a Vulcan.

If you chose only "C" answers,
you are a Ferengi.

If you chose only "D" answers,
you are a Republican.
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« Reply #33 on: Dec 16th, 2002, 9:45pm »

Hey, I am Republican, but I didn't want to be...LOL
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« Reply #34 on: Dec 17th, 2002, 07:20am »

That's funny cheesy Hey the Democrates didn't even make it in there..goes to show you where I'm at...(NO PUN INTENDED GUYS)
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« Reply #35 on: Feb 1st, 2003, 6:53pm »

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Yes, I agree with that. For example: if light speed travel is totaly improbable to us, The chances are that its just as improbable any other race in the infinite regeions of space. I personally think we are giving way to much credit to other speices in the gallaxy, and the credit for this is based on the fact that they would have to travel mega distances just to reach us. Therefore, it is more plausable in my mind that it has to be more of an inter-dimentional travlel thing, than flying at incredible speeds through the gallaxy. Lets not forget that the speeds that we travel at now takes an horrendous toll on our body`s, and if the average alien is , as reported in most cases smaller than us, surley it would take an even greater toll on them. Come on lets hear your theorys on this, if anyone has any.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN IN THIS DEBATE JUST LOOK UNDER THE SETI HEADING AND CLICK ON DO ALIENS WALK AMONG US. I think inter dimentional taravel is a possibility to look at,

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« Reply #36 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 7:35pm »

Anybody, wether they are a member or a guest that would like to sign the condolences book for the shuttle disaster, would they please go to announcements at the top of the board.
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« Reply #37 on: Feb 4th, 2003, 2:00pm »

cool Well now our goverment seems to be getting ready to unload the big one on us, as if we did not know already ! I pulled this from a AOL news room today. Maybe the pressure is getting to them snicker snicker. Well here it is right from the top:

BUSH BACKS SPACE ALIENS EVIDENCE (AOL News)

GEORGE W Bush says there is mounting evidence to suggest there is alien life on other planets.


The US President used his budget document to declare that there may be "space aliens" to be discovered. A passage entitled, "Where are the Real Space Aliens?", states that important scientific research over the last 10 years indicates that proof of "habitual worlds" in outer space is becoming more of a reality.


Evidence for the current or previous existence of large bodies of water, an essential element for life, has already been found on Mars and on Jupiter's moons. Astronomers are also discovering planets outside of our solar system, including around 90 stars with at least one planet orbiting them.


The document says: "Perhaps the notion that 'there's something out there' is closer to reality than we have imagined."
I find this interesting in light of recent events concerning NASA and the Columbia
Well there it is for what it is worth. Peace and Safety AbductedSoul
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« Reply #38 on: Feb 4th, 2003, 8:51pm »

Hey Soulman, here is an extract from a post that Louise done quite somtime ago.

In an E-mail to this author Huffer stated the following,

"Today as This afternoon, 4 November 2002, President George W.
Bush attended a Republican Campaign Rally at the Northwest
Regional Airport (XNA) in Northwest Arkansas. After the rally
was over, while on the way to Air Force One, President Bush
shook hands with some of the people at the rally. My hand was
one of those. I took the opportunity to remind President Bush
that he had promised ME over two years ago that he would tell us
the truth about UFOs. I then asked if he intended to keep that
promise. He answered: 'Yes'".

"Unfortunately, this time I did not have my recorder with me so
this report is no better than hearsay. But it did happen."

It looks to me as if he is trying to keep his promise to Louise, but he`s making a slow job of it! cry

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« Reply #39 on: Feb 5th, 2003, 07:38am »

Rob, you know yourself that when a mouse is put into a corner by a cat they would say ANYTHING to get out of there! I feel this just may be one of those days..but he will be watched carefully by us all...lets see if these promises will be kept, just like all the others before him (yea right)

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« Reply #40 on: Feb 5th, 2003, 4:17pm »

I don't know what it would take to get governments to come out with the truth, but I don't believe we will see it for a long long time
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« Reply #41 on: Feb 5th, 2003, 7:58pm »

cool Well We must remember that he is controled by the behind the scenes groups. I just finished a paper on that little nasty group skull and bones from Yale University fame. Well that has nothing to do with this.. ( who am I kidding lol ) Well anyway I think just that release is a start but then I am eternally optomistic, Look for the small good things and all that Peace and Safety AbductedSoul
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« Reply #42 on: Feb 5th, 2003, 9:24pm »

Secrecy is like a contraceptive with a 98.96 % effective rate... sooner or later the truth will be born out.
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« Reply #43 on: Feb 5th, 2003, 10:44pm »

cool Agreed Backlit Hamlet..Foul deeds will rise though all the earth rise to overwhelm them from men's eyes (Paraphrased) I was boggled as to where I read about a President wanting to tell the public about UFOS before. Well I was reading a book and having tea when it cam to me so here it is for your enjoyment

President John F. Kennedy and the UFOs
Was JFK silenced for knowing too much?
by Jim Marrs
President John F. Kennedy may have had more than the usual knowledge about UFOs, according to several credible sources.

Further support for Kennedy’s high-level knowledge regarding UFOs came from a former steward aboard Air Force One who told of a cryptic remark by President Kennedy.

Bill Holden, who also served as loadmaster for Air Force One, traveled with Kennedy to Europe in the summer of 1963. He said a UFO conference in Bonn, Germany, prompted a discussion of the subject aboard the President’s plane one morning.

Holden said he turned to Kennedy and asked, "What do you think about UFOs, Mr. President?" He said Kennedy became quite serious and thought for a moment before replying, "I’d like to tell the public about the alien situation, but my hands are tied."

A controversial MJ-12 document titled "Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit Summary," noted Kennedy’s insider knowledge. This document, apparently written soon after the crashes in New Mexico during July 1947, states, "It has become known to CIC [Counter Intelligence Corps] that some of the recovery operation was shared with Representative John F. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat elected to Congress in ’46, Son of Joseph P. Kennedy, Commission on Organization of the Executive Branch of the Government. [Jack] Kennedy had limited duty as naval officer assigned to Naval Intelligence during the war. It is believed that information [concerning the Roswell crashes] was obtained from [a] source in Congress who is close to [the] Secretary for Air Force." Kennedy was the only Congressmen named who was aware of the truth of the Roswell incidents at the time.

Yet another document appears to be a memorandum written from President Kennedy to the director of the CIA regarding "Classification review of all UFO intelligence files affecting National Security." In this memo, Kennedy stated, "... I have initiated [blacked out] and have instructed [then NASA Administrator] James Webb to develop a program with the Soviet Union in joint space and lunar exploration. It would be very helpful if you would have the high threat cases reviewed with the purpose of identification of bona fide as opposed to classified CIA and USAF sources. It is important that we make a clear distinction between the knowns and unknowns in the event the Soviets try to mistake our extended cooperation as a cover for intelligence gathering of their defense and space programs.” Kennedy then asked for all files on "Unknowns" to be turned over the NASA authorities and an interim report be forwarded to the White House no later than Feb.1, 1964.

This document which clearly showed a president about to make UFO secrets available to wider circles in government and, hence, probably available to the public was dated Nov. 12, 1963, just 10 days before his Nov. 22 assassination in Dallas.

Desperately clinging to their UFO-free mindset, debunkers question this document’s authenticity while an unquestionably authentic document has been found in the John F. Kennedy Library.
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cool Continued from previous page..... National Security Action Memorandum No. 271 is titled "Cooperation with the USSR in Outer Space Matters" and is addressed to the Administrator of NASA, at that time James Webb.

This signed memo does not mention UFOs specifically, nevertheless, Kennedy instructs Webb to "assume personally the initiative and central responsibility within the Government for the development of a program of substantive cooperation with the Soviet Union in the field of outer space, including the development of specific technical proposals." Kennedy added that this plan was a direct result of "my September 20 proposal for broader cooperation between the United States and the USSR in outer space, including cooperation in lunar landing programs."

This incredible document was also dated Nov. 12, 1963, but who in 1963 would have believed that the United States and the Soviet Union would have been engaging in cooperative joint space operations? The White House log of that day showed that beginning at 2 p.m. Kennedy had lunch and then "no official appointments" but "conferred with various staff members during the afternoon." Obviously on this day, Kennedy had more than enough time to deal with space matters.

Also obvious is the fact that this apparent attempt to cooperate with the USSR ended with Kennedy’s death in Dallas. On through the administration of Ronald Reagan, we were still warned against the "evil empire" and the costly Cold War continued.

Opponents to JFK became frantic over his attempts to alter the course of previous U.S. policies. According to one knowledgeable source, Kennedy played a dangerous game, "... after making it clearly evident that he was not prepared to support action against the communists in the normal sense - plans to withdraw troops from South Vietnam - plans to fracture or abolish portions of the CIA; plans for expansion to the Justice System; failure to support the Bay of Pigs [invasion]; and a desire to share some of our most sensitive secrets with the Russians and Chinese - space borne platforms, etc... All during a time when his popularity was growing in leaps and bounds with the American public - a President who did not enjoy majority support at his election. A very dangerous situation, leaving few methods for control beyond assassination."

This same source went on to say, "I believe John F. Kennedy was appraised of, and had access to, sufficient classified information, to have personally come to the conclusion that UFOs and therefore possible alien life-forms were possibly extant within our solar system... I think Kennedy certainly came to this conclusion... and was looking to demonstrate not only mankind’s ability to come together for a common goal, but to formally demonstrate we could enter and conquer space as a species. Back then, some would have seen this as either crazy (if they had no access to the material) or (if they had access) very premature and possibly dangerous."
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