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« Reply #330 on: Mar 24th, 2005, 10:10am »

I do not like Jellyfish!!!!!!!
They hurt!
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« Reply #331 on: Mar 24th, 2005, 2:30pm »

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shocked uhhuh! i mean those exactly! god those are nasty critters
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« Reply #332 on: Mar 24th, 2005, 11:58pm »

on Mar 24th, 2005, 2:30pm, queenofhearts wrote:
shocked uhhuh! i mean those exactly! god those are nasty critters


I knew you'ld like that one queenie.

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« Reply #333 on: Mar 25th, 2005, 10:41am »

hmmm... i just read a book about sth similar... wait... i know! it was by clifford pickover "The science of the aliens". it's a really good book. do you know it?
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« Reply #334 on: Mar 25th, 2005, 3:55pm »

one time I was at the beach in ocean city, new jersey a jelly fish tentacle washed up on shore and DAMN those things burn, I though somthing cut my arm because tectacles are clear and it looked like my skin had been sliced until my mom peeled the tentacle off.
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« Reply #335 on: Mar 25th, 2005, 5:06pm »

oljack666. If you rotate the image of the jellyfish 90 degrees clockwise, and take off the writing, it definately resembles an alien vessel or species orbiting Earth. starman.
I've just done this, and i've got it as my wallpaper on my desktop. I've called it "Alien Domains".
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« Reply #336 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 04:35am »

on Mar 23rd, 2005, 10:50pm, hjdelight wrote:
Rods are insects I'm pretty sure so don't worry about them. Have you seen any rods lurking under your eves or in the grass of your yard? I didn't think so. No one has. Only the camera has ever caught an image of one. Think about that. How likely is that? Rods are insects caught in motion on film I think. The same with orbs too.

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Thought I'd briefly join in as I've been silently lurking in the shadows reading all your comments here lately. These thoughts are soley a form of expression and observation. Not mean't to be taken anymore seriously than with a grain of salt, (the Anonymous disclaimer)

I believe that the camera can capture a number of things due to it percieving things differantly than you or I can with our eyes. I believe this just as strongly as I believe there is wind, although I've never seen the wind. I can't see gravity, but I can see it's effect and I can also with the right camera see it's force-waves. Yet Newton was hearlded as being a heretic when he came up with his theory of gravity. Remember we once thought the world was flat. Scientists using string theory claim that there may be more than 10 dimensions surrounding us. So I don't think it's all that far fetched that we could have lifeforms living in a parallel universe that occupies the same space that we inhabit. But I don't see them either. If you we're to travel back in time and tell people that without any wires that we'd be able to talk to people on the otherside of the earth, then you'd be in the same boat as Newton. So I think we just need a little more time with a lot of these unexplained phenomena....

Now with that said, is everything that John Bro and other's are catching all rod's? I think that there is a greater number of bugs being captured than rod's themselves. In fact I can simulate a rod in footage with the right camera settings and you'd not be able to tell the differance. But I've also seen footage of 20 and 30 foot rods that I can't just say is a bug, (some big bug at that).

Orbs, I can simulate an orb too with a speck of light dust and the right IR light (infrared) Also with the moisture outside at nite I can make it appear as if there were hundreds of orbs around you. But as above, I've also witnessed some events that clearly we're not hoaxed and none of us learned people could say anything more than what we witnessed was not explainable after all other explanations had been ruled out.


All I'm trying to say is that just because something hasn't been caught, dissected and had a paper written about it yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And I believe that the camera is a great tool for moving forward in helping to explain what some of these anomalous objects are.

And yes, in my observation I'm defending the camera with my two cents (LOL).
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« Reply #337 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 10:16am »

Very well put. But may I say this, just because it's not explainable, by the same token as your argument, does not mean it is an orb or rod as defined by some as being alive in some sense. You have said that most are explainable as camera artifacts and are repeatable so wouldn't it be logical to assume the unexplainable are the same rather than some unknown species? If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....you know what it is, right?

Let me make an analogy. Suppose you worked in a marble factory and made 200 marbles a day. One day you come in and find 201 there from the previous day. It's unexplainable! Would you assume that the marbles are alive and breeding or that you made a mistake in the count the previous day? One assumption is probable and the other not. People always have the choice in a situation involving the unexplainable to go either way....the probable or the unprobable.

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« Reply #338 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 2:32pm »

The following is simply provided for the entertainment factor,, probably more so for myself than anyone else. (The Anonymous Disclaimer)

hjdelight wrote:
But may I say this, just because it's not explainable, by the same token as your argument, does not mean it is an orb or rod as defined by some as being alive in some sense. You have said that most are explainable as camera artifacts and are repeatable so wouldn't it be logical to assume the unexplainable are the same rather than some unknown species? If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck....you know what it is, right?


I never mentioned any of my simulations occuring due to camera artifacts, these are your words. All simulations I created were natural & without artifacts.


Have you ever seen ball lightning? I have, but it is neither a ball or lightning. Your thoughts on a extra mysterious marble showing up doesn't really fall into the same category that we're discussing, as the marble is already an established "thing". Orbs and Rod's are not and since I can hold a marble but not a rod or orb, I see no reason to pursue my search for a marble, as it has been categoricaly identified and established as 'real'. The fact that I can simulate the effect should have no real bearing except in the sense of being able to say: "And we were able to duplicate these results/effects under laboratory conditions (or out in the field for that matter).

So in a roundabout way, I don't have a problem with your previous statement. As there are many other phenomena that could create a number of 'explainable events' that could be misconstrued for a rod or an orb or a supposed 'unexplainable event'. Are a lot of sightings explainable? I lean towards the 70 -80% mark that they can and will be explained. But I don't care about them, I'm only interested in the 20-30% that still have us scratching our heads....

I have never seen an alien, yet I believe in the possibility that they might exist. I have used the mathimatical odds and quantum physics theories to arrive at the possibility of their existence in our big universe. What does an alien look like? I don't know, Hollywood has created a whole slew of wild looking creatures, and after awhile the majority believe that they must look like greys or smaller humanoid versions of ourselve. But why, is it not also possible that they might look like a marble or a jellyfish? If you swing or pan the camera fast enough, I could make "you" look like a rod, (or I guess by your definition,, a bug), but this doesn't mean that you are one, right?
So the looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, must be a duck doesn't fly with me.... (pardon the pun)

Now give me a room where the extra marble disappears being replaced by a orb thats being sat on by a quacking duck as a rod impersonateing a bug was seen fleeing the crime scene,,,, and then my friend,,, we have something!!!!! LOL

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« Reply #339 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 5:00pm »

Lol! Ok then. I really didn't want to debate at all but you seem to believe there's something to the rods and orbs and questioned my opinion on it. You wish to take the improbable conclusion, then please do so.

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« Reply #340 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 5:24pm »

A debate was not foremost on my mind either LOL....

My only stance is that we should be open to all possibilities until everything else has been ruled out.

But I did enjoy our bantor, truth be known, both of us could be right, or both of us could be wrong. The sharing of an idea, concept, theory, I think that's all part of the fun for the search of individual/group enlightenment.

Only time will tell my friend...
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« Reply #341 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 5:48pm »

Of course we must be open to all possibilities. I don't think you'll find anyone here with a closed mind and perhaps my statement that there was nothing to it was too strong. I don't know the answer. I just think it improbable that they are lifeforms or actually exist in fact. That is other than as insects or dust particles. People have reproduced rods on film at will by setting their camera under the eve of their house pointing into the sky. They also toss talcum into the air and produce orbs using a flash. Since no one has captured or even seen these things except on film, it appears unlikely they exist to my way of thinking. I would love someone to prove it to me that they do though. wink

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« Reply #342 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 7:58pm »

Just when you thought there couldn't possibily be anything more to the Roswell New Mexico case, in pops another eye-opener.

Check this out http://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2589

Interesting document if I say so myself. "...debris from that is still being analyzed and of course not open to the public for viewing.."
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« Reply #343 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 8:01pm »

That must be some weather balloon...ROTFLMAO
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« Reply #344 on: Apr 7th, 2005, 8:26pm »

It's either a peek under the covers or a really poor choice of words. We'll see.

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