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« Reply #525 on: Jun 20th, 2006, 3:28pm »

My aliens told me, that there are currently , that means long term for us, always in limited number around Earth and that there is a strict controll over the situation here.
The chaos created outside, in the society, is a chaos of this humanity non-responsive to their higher selves.
There seem to be many aliens around but there is one large group containg few different individuals, There is no such fight between them as mentioned.
They don't come so close to humanity as observed, but their mental energy is enough to undermine our actions and mind streams.
Then there are lot of interdimensional beings who don't exist more than picture in the mirror.
There are lot of mind projections of living alien intelligence. Just for controll.
I suppose...

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« Reply #526 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 01:53am »

on Jun 20th, 2006, 3:28pm, Mewtwo wrote:
My aliens told me, that there are currently , that means long term for us, always in limited number around Earth and that there is a strict controll over the situation here.


Of course there is. If there wasn't any control in what the aliens can do in terms of humans, humanity would become extinct. Because surely enough the Draconians would just launch a thousand or so Anti-matter bombs and watch while laughing as the human race is no more.

But this is administrated by the Annunaki Empire within the Intergalactice Community, which sort of works like a confederacy.



on Jun 20th, 2006, 3:28pm, Mewtwo wrote:
The chaos created outside, in the society, is a chaos of this humanity non-responsive to their higher selves.
There seem to be many aliens around but there is one large group containg few different individuals, There is no such fight between them as mentioned.


I don't think Draconians and the Annunaki or Atlantians have ever engaged in combat.

But I think we should be thank of the extraterrestrials, because without them not only would we not exist. But music, art, poetry, martial arts, literature, socialism, peaceful oriented religions like Islam and Buddhism, and organized military wouldn't exist.

We would still have some of the technology we have today, but it would be designed more so for control and dominance. As well as many other things that about as equally corrupt.

Since capitalism and dictatorship are pure humanly crafted ideology. I would say that our society would be dominated by a huge monopoly that dictated everything that occured in our society. That is what would happen if aliens just created us and contibuted nothing else to our society.

on Jun 20th, 2006, 3:28pm, Mewtwo wrote:
They don't come so close to humanity as observed, but their mental energy is enough to undermine our actions and mind streams.


Well actually they don't come so close to humanity in terms that we interpret.

They do interact with humanity, seldomly of actual interaction of human and extraterrestrial. But they do so more oftenly with camoflauge. Because they do want us in their circle. They like us alot, even though they also hate what we might become in the future. So it's sort of mutual. But they do take quite a bit of interest in our species.


on Jun 20th, 2006, 3:28pm, Mewtwo wrote:
Then there are lot of interdimensional beings who don't exist more than picture in the mirror.
There are lot of mind projections of living alien intelligence. Just for controll.
I suppose...

smiley E.



Interdimensional beings are much more seldom if they ever interact in our universe and I'm talking about those that come from another dimension. The only interdimension beings that really do interact are our the decease of our own species. Which are most oftenly Guardian Angels.

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« Reply #527 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 06:49am »

These photos depict figures found in Equador. Notice they appear to be wearing space suits. You can see a comparison photo with an Apollo astronaut.


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Two images c.6000 BC from Tassili, Sahara Desert, North Africa. They do not look human do they ? Also notice the disk in the sky in left hand picture.

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« Reply #528 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 07:03am »

Yes, right, but we have to consider one important fact.
Human being as such is a direct descendant of very pure and noble Keepers of the Knowing and they came here very long time ago. They have undergone drastic changes since they touched soil of this earth and turned to live very hard and animal like life.
They even eat meat of other beings, even their own meat. They've changed from most noble and beautiful beings to ugly creatures and they'll keep striving here untill the rest of times.
Somebody should help them.
Those people you mentioned coming here, i.e. Draconians and Annunaki, and other people from everywhere, these are some historical memmories, they are not here at the moment.
But whoever is here untill this time, they all just tried to exercise their own ideas and powers.
Human being contains very precious biological matterial to all of them, but they never solved the original code, so can't help themselves.
Whatever religions and sciences were taught to humanity to accelerate their development, they became later a cause of misapprehension of reality and had to be refused.
Our inner conscioussness is still mostly hard as a rock instead of being soft and vulnerable.
How can we percieve the reality correctly ?
We are not based on centralised systems, forces and artificiall controls. Our pure human nature depends purely on noble conduct, natural knowledge, and freedom spirit.
That is the basic difference between us and them.
We might admire their well organized systems but we are not happy to follow them.
Our intellect is primordially free of organisations.
We won't follow the attempts to empower us with ignorance, you know...
So it might take a time for few of us at least, to consider the matter seriously, to hold the best possible view of humanity to be able to talk to aliens.
I didn't mean interdimensional beings, I meant alien mentall projections sent to the minds of people.

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« Reply #529 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 09:47am »

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Yes, right, but we have to consider one important fact.
Human being as such is a direct descendant of very pure and noble Keepers of the Knowing and they came here very long time ago. They have undergone drastic changes since they touched soil of this earth and turned to live very hard and animal like life.


Nothing is fact until it is proven. Until it is proven by observation, it is a theory, however, it can be a belief but it cannot be fact.
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« Reply #530 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 10:15am »

Amen.

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« Reply #531 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 12:18pm »

No, it might take really long time untill it can be proved.
It will be much more difficult than to prove that we are descendants of apes and monkeys. But it will be correct.
I don't have enough equipment to proove it on my own and little talents.
But I've seen that on my own eyes, it was not that type of message , you are our child and so on..., it was very different the way any aliens would present themself.
All you can confabulate are beings lower than you on the developmental scale, but not those, who are above.
And as original beings we are above those who come here eventhough our generall condition seems to proove the opposite.
I dare to say this here, on public and informed place, because I've gone very far on my path, just on the edge of possibilities, and there is no other reason to apologize for the truth.
The beings I talk about, our ancestors so to say, are not creators of the races or something like that.
They are just ancestors of pure human being, that's all.
Pure spiritual beings with original breath of humanity, so to say. And also very technically evolved.
Not some other aliens.
Just uplift your spirits and your intelligence is capable of direct perception.
That you don't remember that does not say as much as you don't remember being an orangutan.
That we can't proove it yet means that we are very very backwords in facing such possibility technicaly.
My dear alien friends, please don't charm me to a frog, I didn't mean to say that you are of no use here...

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« Reply #532 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 8:14pm »

Hi friends
Just to place all the evidence in the record. It is my considered opinion that ;

“WE” are the aliens!

Or rather the aliens are our descendants and have been returning to the past in an attempt to save their future.

If any of you would like to read some of my work on this theory or debate Its merrits I would be pleased to discuss my views with you.

In an attempt to account for all the apparent aspects of aliens and their apparent influences through time as well as the genetic harvesting of the current biosphere , including all manner of farm and domesticated animals as well as crops{ crop circles } and even ourselves as witnessed by almost every abductee. The evidence points to someone trying to regain something they lost and in harvesting our bio samples they hope to return to their time and use our raw materials to reinvigorate their world . As I see it they are desperately trying to save themselves. The question is What has happened to destroy their world so much that they have to go back in time to acquire viable breading material to bolster their existence?

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« Reply #533 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 8:51pm »

That is exactly my theory also Woody so you will get no debate from me. Perhaps pure genetic material will become the currency of the future like gold is now because we will eventually muck up all presently existing genetic material. Maybe with a hybrid virus or something. Who knows? Add time travel (presently becoming a majority expectation among scientists) and you have the solution to the problem. The paradoxes (killing your grandfather etc.) are even being worked out believe it or not. wink

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« Reply #534 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 10:17pm »

The paradoxes (killing your grandfather etc.) are even being worked out believe it or not. wink

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Hi HJ

To address your statements on time travel I see no paradox at all. I can go to the past and kill my grand father. No Problem. The problem has been in how we think of time and our universe There is no way I could in truth kill my own grandfather in my time line but as there are an infinite number of permutations for every instant in time. if I were to go back and kill the man that was my grandfather then when I returned to the future I would find nothing changed in my own time line. However at the point I killed gramps a new time line was created with my existence having not happened. I could not live in that time line as a descendant of that man. However I may be able to visit it as an outside observer. having no true lineage between the time my grampa was killed and I arrived in that time dimension. Just a thought I would think you could use a genetic test to prove that you were descendant of that man but no record of you birth would ever be found.
This aspect of time travel and Its ramifications can explain why the actions and influence of aliens threw out history have changed so much. From outright manipulation, physical and social, to a more clandestine sneak in and grab what they want before disappearing again. At one time they thought they could go back and change history to alter their future. after a few decades of trying over centuries of historical time they attempted to give us greater moral standards huge engineering marvels complicated language and possibly every major world changing event as we have seen them. However they realized that no mater what they did in the past it did not change their world and its actual history.
Having come to the grim reality of their doom they began a program to retrieve genetic samples and the rest is as we have seen over the more recent time span.

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« Reply #535 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 10:51pm »

Well you've done a great job of explaining it. I refrained from saying anything about time lines because that subject can go on forever, literally and figuratively! Be prepared for disagreement though because there are as many beliefs and theories, usually masquerading as each other most of the time, as there are posters here. cheesy But that keeps it interesting I guess.

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« Reply #536 on: Jun 21st, 2006, 11:48pm »

Hi Again HJ

Thanks for the warning.

I am a new-be here but I am not new to UFO forums. I’ve been party and contributor to many group dialogues.

I am sure I will insult, offend, and displease many of the others here. it is inevitable.

I accept that my theory is not among one of the most popular in the current world view of UFO’s / aliens but I was pleased by the new SF series on TV “The 4400“. I had just finished my first published work on UFO;s.
This new show chose the premiss of our ancestors traveling time and abducting people to save their future world. It was kind of spooky too as I had only published my work two months prior to the premier of this TV show.

I have my problems with the powers and abilities given to the abductees as no evidence of physical or mental enhancement has been documented from the reported abduction cases of record. Still They did use my theory in part to under pen the show.
If you like I can send you a copy of my essay. It is approximately 50 pages in length and covers all I have compiled in 38 years of investigation and my personal speculation. To date no one has been able to find any contradictions or unsupported conclusions within it. I continue to seek new and more complete evidence to support my contentions but as yet my theory remains just that .
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« Reply #537 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:03am »

Congratulations on getting published and yes I would like to read that. I look forward to your postings too.

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« Reply #538 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 12:36am »

One last thought before I call it a night. I can’t help wondering Why God and all of the spirits written of in the Bible, Torah, and every religious text from our entire recorded history no longer reveal themselves to us? Could it be that they were just what we now report as aliens of every ilk from the small gray ones to the reptilian or even the beings of energy or as some call the spiritual. If they are in fact still here as aliens and not supernatural agents of good or evil seeking to damn or save us respectively. Then why do they no longer give us miraculous signs as proof of their existence? Is it we no longer have the ability to see them as these things? Could it be they must now use other disguises to continue to pursue their agendas.
I suspect this is a conformation of my supposition. If they were trying to alter the past and redirect the course of events using technology and social reform as the tools. As they finally realized that their actions did not alter their one reality this resulted in a change in tact. that being the retrieval and utilization of our genetic resources to repair or supplement their own failing society.
I find this plausible and even likely as the explanation for the disparagement in how we were dealt with from the past to the present.
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« Reply #539 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:40am »

on Jun 21st, 2006, 09:47am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Nothing is fact until it is proven. Until it is proven by observation, it is a theory, however, it can be a belief but it cannot be fact.


Nothing that is fact is actually fact.

What we consider "facts" are nothing more that popularly accepted accusations and theories which are proven to have so stand in accountability. However the interpretation of the forces that imply these "facts" may be universally different and more than likely different from what our "facts" take into an account.

And if you bother to ask a physicist, they will tell you the same thing. Humans know little if anything about this universe. And the things we do know, might as well have been nothing than beliefs that are holded quite dearly by popularly unity of thought.

If you want to know the truth, talk telepathically with the all-knowing Annunaki race. They will tell you anything, with the exception of a very few things that they just won't talk about, that you want to know in terms of this universe.

To talk telepathically, you must clear your mind of thoughts , stress, tension, and feelings. Your mind must be absolutely as clear as you can possibly make it become. Otherwise you can't very well speak telepathically and even if you do, what you pick can easily be distorted by your own thoughts and feelings.

Now create a single thought and concentrate it. Human have relatively very little mental energy, so you must increase the magnitude of the thought so it can be heard. Think of speaking and having a very weak throat. Same concept. Now concentrate on sending that thought out using your mental energy to whatever source you want. The best way to get a response is to send it directly up, down, or to create a magnitude wave by releasing it and hopefully the extraterrestrial or psychic individual isn't too far to pick it up. But this is of course to test out your ability to speak telepathically. It takes much time to get use to it and eventually you'll be able to speak directly with extraterrestrials.

To know who you are speaking with, you should feel a presence of some kind. And that will indicate who or what you are communicating with. I'd suggest you find a human telepath so you can hopefully test and encourage yourself of having telepathic capabilities.

But of course this is to simply emit a signal. To receive one, you must keep your mind clear and attractive to any incoming signals. If you hinder your mind by disacknowledging or subconsciously disacknowleding a signal, then you won't pick up one. Unless it's a very strong signal. It's like putting your hands over your hears, in which insures you are unable to listen to any telepathic messages.

However, don't expect that the extraterrestrials that you communicate with are going to communicate with you all day or night long. The energy that any Earthly visiting extraterrestrial can emit is by far more stronger than a human could every anticipate. It's like the strength and body weight comparison between that of humans and ants. Ants can pick up things much heavier in mass than themselves than humans are able in terms of their own mass. However the difference is by far more than that. We are talking about the difference of force between a household grenade and a super nova explosion. I know it sounds farfetched, but it really isn't. It's the principle of psionic pressure.

Which means that if an extraterrestrial communicates to you at the same force you had to imply to talk to them, you'll not only die, but almost everything on this planet will as well.

So they try to voice telepathically very quietly and without using hardly any psionic energy at all. But still since humans are very psionically weak, we can easily feel pain if expose to long in a telepathic signal.

This would be why you wouldn't be able to talk with them for that long of time period.

The most I can manage before they pull the plug is roughly half an hour.

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