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« Reply #540 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:51am »

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it be that they were just what we now report as aliens of every ilk from the small gray ones to the reptilian or even the beings of energy or as some call the spiritual.

It true. None of the gods are omnipotent or all-knowing - they're just off-worlders who came and apparently demanded worship from humanity using their 'miracles'. Lucifer is apparently head of the Reptilians and Grays while Jehovah rules the angels which live in mobile cities in Earth's atmosphere (hidden mostly in storm clouds)

Somewhere in the area of 3,500 BC, Earth got the attention of the galactic community and became a target for all sorts of civilization hierarchies and hybrid humanoid species, particularly that of Sirius where Jehovah seems to reign. What occurred in that age can be compared to when Europe discovered Africa - the Africans were amazed by the powers and wisdoms of these white people and did as they were told. Such wise and intelligent beings would never bring harm, right? The same continues to this date when a person meets an angel.

They're still here and carry out their agenda like always, in fact more so than the biblical days. The bible, keep in mind, takes over 2,000 years of material and condenses it into one book, so, the past looks more exciting than it was. The 'gods' like to stand back because they thrive in obscurity and confusion - if we commonly knew who they really are and what they're really doing, we'd kill them brutally, but when they leave it all to humanity's imagination, everyone sees their god as their personal image of perfection. I've heard christians deny whole books of the bible because it portrays Jehovah as the ruthless tyrant he is.

You can read about the angels and their plans by searching the internet for near-death experiences, which is their idea of an abduction. They haven't changed much in the last 4,000 years, except that they act nicer, and you really have to watch their words because they're skilled liars and get their way through emotional manipulation and glorious appearances. The person reporting the NDE will explain everything with the words 'love' and 'caring', then casually mention how the angels have slaughtered civilizations, then continue with the 'love' and 'caring' talk.
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« Reply #541 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 02:19am »

Earth got the attential of the Extraterrestrial Community as far back as 400,000 BCE.

However... Extraterrestrials have been interacting with humans far less since 10,000 BCE or say since the last Ice Age had ended. Which was when atlantis sank into the Sea and many other things.

Now don't get me wrong they have been interacting with humans, just not as much as they once did.
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« Reply #542 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 02:50am »

Back then, we were the intergalactic community - so it wasn't much of an issue. I guess it's more a matter of which stellar systems we were connected with during which time periods. Right now it's Sirius and Alcyone and mostly dangerous shady races from the Orion area.
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« Reply #543 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 07:10am »

I'd just like to add, that real aliens are really very different from unreal aliens that way, that their thinking and interests are very different from ours.
So don't expect them to have real likes or dislikes for our favourite food, religion or physical theory.
They will never agree on being a part of our fairytails,
because the names, dreams , phanthasies and other exact information we think to have from them, are caused by physical interaction of very different shaped quanta of energies, which DO NOT translate themselves any correct way to the other side. So all it does, according to quantity and quality of their information field and other fields, that it accelerates your minds natural ability to create images of its own prefs,
and destructive images in the case, that your mental energy seems to be exhausted. Don't undervalue your mental ability to create images , because you are naturally endowed with pure intelligence.
The other beings mind is totally different as far as its contains and does not look like those legends of old which we all like to imagine. The legends are awoked in your brain in order to systematize the number of information you gathered under certain system.
The whole story seems to be about whose system is more complex.
Myself I dare to speak about it only after having direct experience, because there is a difference between direct insight and intelligent procession of data.
Please, don't mind my occassional jumps to the theme.

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« Reply #544 on: Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:07am »

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 01:40am, DarkLord wrote:
What we consider "facts" are nothing more that popularly accepted accusations and theories which are proven to have so stand in accountability. And if you bother to ask a physicist, they will tell you the same thing.


I beg to differ here because if something is proven scientifically it is a fact. That fact could be amended over time but in that case it is called a "law" (Newton's Law, etc.) but if it has not been found to be fact then it is still just a theory. The only exception to that is if one, like yourself had an observation that cannot be had by science to test. Then that will be a belief for the individual who had the observation and a theory for science but it cannot become a fact.

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It's like putting your hands over your hears, in which insures you are unable to listen to any telepathic messages.


Well if that worked, I would have ear plugs in my ears 24 hours a day.

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However, don't expect that the extraterrestrials that you communicate with are going to communicate with you all day or night long.


Night and day, day and night. It's taxing, painful, draining and extremely exhausting and can happen 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The only break is the break between thoughts and sleep of course.

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The most I can manage before they pull the plug is roughly half an hour.


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« Reply #545 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 05:02am »

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 07:10am, Mewtwo wrote:
I'd just like to add, that real aliens are really very different from unreal aliens that way, that their thinking and interests are very different from ours.
So don't expect them to have real likes or dislikes for our favourite food, religion or physical theory.
They will never agree on being a part of our fairytails,
because the names, dreams , phanthasies and other exact information we think to have from them, are caused by physical interaction of very different shaped quanta of energies, which DO NOT translate themselves any correct way to the other side. So all it does, according to quantity and quality of their information field and other fields, that it accelerates your minds natural ability to create images of its own prefs,
and destructive images in the case, that your mental energy seems to be exhausted. Don't undervalue your mental ability to create images , because you are naturally endowed with pure intelligence.
The other beings mind is totally different as far as its contains and does not look like those legends of old which we all like to imagine. The legends are awoked in your brain in order to systematize the number of information you gathered under certain system.
The whole story seems to be about whose system is more complex.
Myself I dare to speak about it only after having direct experience, because there is a difference between direct insight and intelligent procession of data.
Please, don't mind my occassional jumps to the theme.

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I'm sorry but you sound so much like an extraterrestrial would. Have we met before?

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:07am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
I beg to differ here because if something is proven scientifically it is a fact.


No it is never a fact unless it can be proven to be true 100%. And most of our "facts", supposively proven scientifically later have... discovered contradictions... as our scientific understanding broadings and becomes much more... vast and enormous. But still... like any physicist would tell you... we know VERY little about this universe. We are like babies in the billions of years this universe has lived.

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:07am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
That fact could be amended over time but in that case it is called a "law" (Newton's Law, etc.) but if it has not been found to be fact then it is still just a theory.


The law of gravity is still just a theory. It's a theory that goes well enough to almost exactly (like 99.999999999999999999999999999999%) fit in to being completely accountable. But there is much speculation from cosmologists and physicists that prevents it from being truely accountable.

on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:07am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
The only exception to that is if one, like yourself had an observation that cannot be had by science to test.


You are aware that the science that is conducted must be performed under pure perfect proceedure. And in the great majority of scientific analysis they aren't. So how does one make a scientific hypothesis to become a law?

When it can become acceptable by the vast majority. That doesn't make it correct however and this is exactly what I was talking about.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:07am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Then that will be a belief for the individual who had the observation and a theory for science but it cannot become a fact.


Nothing can become a fact unless... it has been founded to be 100% true. And with our primitive technology and understanding of the universe and inability to think outside of the box, we will never establish true facts about this universe.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:07am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Well if that worked, I would have ear plugs in my ears 24 hours a day.


Ignorance is bliss when it comes to humanity.


on Jun 22nd, 2006, 08:07am, Atrueoriginall wrote:
Night and day, day and night. It's taxing, painful, draining and extremely exhausting and can happen 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The only break is the break between thoughts and sleep of course.


Life is a challenge. If it wasn't we would all get too quickily bored with it. And thus life would not exist.



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« Reply #546 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 08:40am »

Oh, yes, 4 million years ago, but you won't recognize me . I am taking care of truth in the temple of emptiness, like to eat alien chocolates and scared to go to our human dentist, because it pains.
I look forward to going home of mine, one day.

You are chasing local girls, I suppose.

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« Reply #547 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 08:40am »

I'm becoming really annoyed, trying to figure out who exactly controls the Earth and what they are. The Angels the Reptilians and the Greys have been involved with our governments for thousands of years, however, when they mention their involvement with Earth's governments, it's always "we're attempting this" and "we're hoping for that" - they truly have no absolute say in Earth's politics and are struggling for whatever control they can get, infusing themselves into our society using extremely naive methods like DNA alteration and tenuous communication.

In fact they can barely even speak to us. It's not that they don't try; it's that our bodies are entirely geared to block us from outsiders. Life forms in general, for example, can communicate through telepathy. We should automatically sense what someone is thinking, but we don't, because our human forms are blocking these signals. We should be able to see angels and spirits without a problem, but we don't, because our eyes don't see the area of the spectrum they reflect.

Our very DNA is configured so we can't come in contact with the outside universe, and neither the Angels nor the Greys nor the Reptilians seem to have wanted this. They'd like to have direct contact, but our carbon/hydrogen forms have been altered to block us from outsiders, and somebody has been pulling the strings for perhaps hundreds of thousands of years, affecting our evolution and eventually spawning systems of control and governments. This force has been on Earth the whole time, and neither Jehovah nor Lucifer have been able to overpower it for control in the 10,000 years they've tried, if I'm correct.

As to who's running the show: Archeological records might give some clues. Before humanity worshipped any of today's gods - before we fought over Israel's and Egypt's and Greece's gods and others - people unanimously revered a single female Earth Spirit that preceded any outside forces. If this spirit is anything like Jehovah and the others, we may have a very local force controlling what really goes on around Earth.
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« Reply #548 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:49am »

We have a very lively forum going on here. I've been a psychic all of my life. I am now 76 years old. When I was in my teens Angels used to appear to me as human figures, most of the time as biblical characters. When I grew older the same Angels came to me as intense and brilliant sparks of high energy electricity. I was not able to see Angels with my physical eyes but I had to experience them with my psychic "third eye".
I believe that Angels and UFOs appear to us at the level of our understanding and expectations. For instance, if you believe in a Christian religion they will come to you as Jesus or Mary. If you are a believer in the Hebrew religion they might come to you as Moses or another Hebrew biblical character. If you are a "sitter" in a seance circle they might impersonate your deceased relative. These appearances have happened to me in real life. Angels and ET's will take different shapes and forms and manifestations in order to communicate!

Some of us have not been abducted by ETs? Why? Do You know your history of your soul's incarnations and evolution? What is your "identity" level and frequency of being?

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« Reply #549 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 12:00pm »

on Jun 23rd, 2006, 09:49am, timetraveler wrote:
When I grew older the same Angels came to me as intense and brilliant sparks of high energy electricity. I was not able to see Angels with my physical eyes but I had to experience them with my psychic "third eye".


I have seen one with my eyes while awake. It was a man, he looked like Khan, if you know who that was. Khan was a wise man from many years ago. In this vision I had, the man was made up of lights like neon lights. For instance, his legs were blue lights that formed the legs, and different lights formed other body parts, etc. However, Khan was already an important figure to me previously to this vision, which is why I always assumed that they were impersonating Khan. They've impersonated others too, and yes they most certainly delve into using religious figures.

When I told them that I wasn't falling for their gig, they stopped doing that and then I started receiving instead screen memories of human looking aliens.

Besides those kinds of experiences I've had, the one that stands out the most for me and I was in an awake state with my eyes open was one of the bright green, smoothed skinned, almond eyes, head the shape of a lime - alien. As he showed me himself, (he being an assumption since it felt like a male presence) he portrayed that of a physician of sorts. He was at first sitting on a rolling stool a few feet from me. He rolled over to the table I was lying on (the rolling stool being something we are all familiar with in a doctor's office). This table was a flat aluminum looking table - very narrow. Then, he was standing over me next to the table and I was looking back at his face and I was experiencing absolutely no fear. After that, he moved to another part of the room and purposely stood sideways so that I could view his profile. I could tell that he wanted me to do this. All along, of course, I'm receiving subliminal messages telling me these things. He had the typical skinny, appearance. He had his head up with his nose in the air like a snooty person would do and I was made to feel the feeling of intimidation very strongly. I could also tell that this was being done purposely.

In time, I realized that what he was doing (and others have done as well) was wanting to work on my negative emotional habits because I succumbed to intimidation very easily. They spent many years on such things with me - whoever they are. These would be the ones I speak to daily. Another problem I use to have was that I was an introvert and a turtle in a shell. Not really shy but not the least bit outgoing. I would speak when spoken to but not one to start up a conversation. Well, those things are all gone now. Actually, I think they went overboard because I am quite the extrovert and I not only do not experience intimidation, I don't take XXXX from anyone. lol

What I'm getting at is that aliens, angels and even human spirits sometimes spend a lot of time portraying someone else for many reasons. This also tells me that they probably do not look anything like their portrayal. Instead, we always get what we do not fear as to feel more comfortable. They're way ahead of the game and know already what we can and cannot accept in order to get something done. This is hard to define and the easiest way I can relay it in words is to say that we'll never know because they're that good.

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I believe that Angels and UFOs appear to us at the level of our understanding and expectations. For instance, if you believe in a Christian religion they will come to you as Jesus or Mary. If you are a believer in the Hebrew religion they might come to you as Moses or another Hebrew biblical character. If you are a "sitter" in a seance circle they might impersonate your deceased relative.


EXACTLY! These things have happened to me soooo many times that I believe that they are no more then fluff and stuff, which is what I call them. They never give me names so I name them. I've got a Hitler, Rose, Genghis Khan, Fluff and Stuff, Mutt & Jeff, Weeping Willow, etc. Each spirit, depending on it's nature and the duties it performs gets a name from me depending on how I'm treated. When they do the lab rat thing with me, that's the ones I call Hitler. They occassionally bring Weeping Willow in who draws tears. She is purposely there to make me feel like I have at least one person on my side and she really can draw tears. This is always at a particular time when I'll be experiencing a lot of fear due to what it is they might be doing. The tears release endorphins, which settle me down. See, they all have a part. And, now, they all have a name. Fluff and Stuff, by the way, are the ones that try to sell me garbage.

There are 16 total that spend time with me. It's a round robin thing where there are 4 on and 12 off.

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EXACTLY! Same here.




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« Reply #550 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 12:01pm »

I have a story up on the board where none is going to enter. Except that it's filed in February this years reports under " Man relates encounter with spaceship in 2002." http:// www.ufocasebook.com/2002spaceshipencounter.html
If you like to read it, it's over there and it's not too mysterious. There is a lot about this favourite identity question and time-space travels.
It's meant for all beings, but should be viewed with pure eye and interest in truth, or rather not at all.
I think.

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« Reply #551 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 4:07pm »

ATO s' wink green aliens are completely different than mine. I don't think I would understand their behaviour. But they, the aliens, probably protect their human beings mind, so it develops peculliar character but doesn't change forever.
They do worse things to people yet and some of them end up in irreversible states. It's worth of attention to cope with aliens and keep healthy and happy life.
It's possible under certain circumstances only. Depends on keeping convention between both sides and some rules. There are probably as many rules as aliens. The basic rules in total nonviolence. Every violence spoils the whole problem. There starts the reason for more pain. The second rule is truthfullness to all sides, it helps to keep healthy mind.
You can continue ad infinitum, but you must be knowing them by yourself.
If you have visions, keep sleeping a lot, drink water and you will wake up happy after few days.
If you continue both working and imagining, it can't often end up by itself. So better to listen to ones' own body, speech and mind and give them, what they need.
I found that any alien contacts exhaust lot of subtle life energy , and the quality of your existence in large depends on presence and quantity of this energy.
You should take rest otherwise the body refuses to cooperate. Thus the inner energy must be finaly released.
I don't know it is understandable.

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« Reply #552 on: Jun 23rd, 2006, 5:09pm »

Every soul has a "fingerprint" ID, based on the age of that soul and how many worlds it has incarnated in, and how much experience wisdom it has. The sum total of all of these factors equals its frequency value. For instance, in other dimensional worlds they do not have names ,or addresses, or telephone numbers, or Social Security numbers like we do. Each soul has their own frequency of "light", which is their individual identity. Are you able to comprehend this?
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When I told them that I wasn't falling for their gig, they stopped doing that and then I started receiving instead screen memories of human looking aliens.

Ha, jeeze. It's the same pattern I noticed in near-death experience accounts when I realized the angels are less than honest. The person having the NDE will go to a bright place and will talk with his favorite religious figure, but some people become suspicious and the religious figure confesses that it's an ordinary spirit changing form to 'make it easier' on the person. Right.

What's scary is how the person sees his deceased relatives. I wonder if they're fake as well. It isn't hard to impersonate someone else - a spirit's outer layer is a translucent membrane that can shift to any form, so they have no steadfast appearance they have to take.

It's pretty amusing when outsiders try to communicate. Their limited English leads them to act funny to convey a message, and that message is often stupid. Most outsiders are, frankly, dumb. Even in our ordinary lives, they get our attention using deja-vu phenomena, arranging for you to see a message twice within a few minutes. This happened to me last night when I was reading an article about chem-trails - http://www.rense.com/general69/chem.htm - which mentions Y2K several times and talks about poison sprayed in the air. When I finished reading, I happened to skim another forum where someone posted an out-of-place comment saying "How many bottles of water did you buy before Y2K? I can't wait for the skies to start raining fire! hehe" - http://dragon-tear.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5311 . It was one of those all-too-coincidental occurrences that gives you the feeling someone's trying to tell you something. In this case they're probably saying something about armageddon, perhaps conveying that it's being brought on by humanity. They're commonly spreading this lie so no one suspects them.

Atrueoriginall - did these beings you were with appear translucent? The usual give-away is that shape-shifter will look translucent, but it'd be interesting if they can look solid as well.
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on Jun 23rd, 2006, 5:30pm, Zareste wrote:
Even in our ordinary lives, they get our attention using deja-vu phenomena, arranging for you to see a message twice within a few minutes.


Deja-vu is being suspected as nothing more then the filing cabinet in your brain being cleaned up. In the process of a deja-vu, your short term memories simply disappear and your long term memories that have not been accessed in a very, very long time are gone. If you visualize your computer defragging, it's somewhat like that. It starts at the beginning, goes in a circle and ends at the beginning. It's like a zip drive and it all happens in a fraction of a second, which all makes it appear that you've done this before or been there before - because you were, a fraction of a second ago.

This is what science is considering.

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How many bottles of water did you buy before Y2K? I can't wait for the skies to start raining fire! hehe" - http://dragon-tear.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5311 . It was one of those all-too-coincidental occurrences that gives you the feeling someone's trying to tell you something.


That's 'synchronicity' not dejavu. Very, very, very popular today. I experience it in my life many times through every single day.

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Atrueoriginall - did these beings you were with appear translucent? .


No. Not translucent. Ya know what I forgot to mention about the Khan looking being with lights for body parts -around him and near me were three big green fuzzy balls about twice the size of a basketball. I was told that they were protecting him.


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