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« Reply #585 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 1:34pm »

Speaking of cameras What about the increasing number of ufo pics and videos
Video evidence is making it harder for the government
to keep its secrets and people are all armed with cameras and
video equipment.
The government is faced with the inevitable disclosure of these
things to the general public and are frantic to find ways to prevent
this from happening. It is no longer possible to arbitrarily state there is nothing there when we all can see there is. They can’t take the cameras away and they can’t stop it from being seen on the global web and TV.
 
This is a problem the government is attempting to stave off as long
as possible. It may be too late though and so far out of their
control they will have to respond or be found wanting by the public. Our government has to deal with this and make us believe they were
doing it all for us.

We know they were deceiving us and continue to do so.
 
We will want answers that make since and have a decided benefit
to our society overall. We will not accept anything less than a full
disclosure and any attempt to obscure the truth after the fact will
cause many to demand investigations and penalties to be dealt out
for any who were not altruistic in their motives. The aliens are not likely to appear on the White house lawn as we would destroy any craft that made the mistake of violating that protected space. As for doing so anywhere else I also think this unlikely. They have not done so in the past couple hundred years so it is a good bet they will not do so now.
 
The question I now want to answer is what will happen after we
force the truth from our government and what will the aliens do when we mount a concerted defense against them? Will we be able to do this or will it be Independence day revisited? Our last great stand? Armageddon?
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« Reply #586 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 1:45pm »

on Jun 24th, 2006, 1:25pm, Star wrote:
somewhat like we tag animals in the wild to keep track of them.


You got it. That is what it is exactly.
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« Reply #587 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 2:03pm »

The abduction reports alone are a pattern of events that should
make any government official worried as to what is happening and why.

The aspect of technology that far outstrips our own, should cause
fear in any branch of the military. I feel it would be the highest
priority for any government aware of these facts to investigate
and attempt to duplicate this technology in order to defend against
such a threat.

To say that there are no UFOs and stand on a position that there is
nothing to fear from objects that can’t exist is a blatant lie!

The public sees these things and reports their encounters and
abductions. The government is just ignoring them.

It is then up to us to attempt to discern the truth and discover the
reasons if at all possible.

The government does not want us to know, that they know, what
they know!

My theory is premised on our descendants returning to attempt to
repair errors in our choices and prevent the sequence of events
that progressed to the undesirable end described. They have
continued to visit us but now appear to be focusing on the retrieval
of genetic materials.

By all reports these attempts have been unable to alter the future
significantly. The continuing abductions fly in the face of any
assertion to the contrary.

They are continuing to manipulate us and assert their wish to help
us but the added aspect of genetic manipulation and retrieval
suggests an alternate purpose to what the “aliens” are attempting.

They can not be seen or tracked effectively.

They appear and disappear so quickly there is no way for the
government or the military to counter their actions. They move at
such great speeds and with such extreme maneuverability they
appear to defy what we know is natural law. They take people
without interference or even discovery till too late. They seam to
be omnipotent in this respect and indefensible against.

The government having begun by denying the truth and asserting the
nonexistence of aliens and UFOs cannot now recant and disclose
that they knew all along. To do so would undermine their authority
and call into question their honesty.

We would demand answers and action.

The government knows that a race of beings is able to produce
technology that surpasses anything we can create. This would
render any defense we could muster useless. This seems plausible
to me as a reason for their continued denial of the subject.

Revealing this would cause hysteria and fear to grip the public and
the government would be called upon to defend us regardless of its
ability to do so. The government has been covering it up to prevent
public hysteria and at the same time is working tirelessly to
reproduce an advanced level of technology in an attempt to prepare
for a conflict they see as inevitable.

As long as they foster the belief that the government is
unconcerned they avoid open conflict with these entities.

What say you to this?

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« Reply #588 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 2:27pm »

smiley One should take care, avoid alien subjects, unless you belong to them, because after it's too late.
If you happen to be born an alien, take care not to spoil human beings by too much complexity, they can't stand it.
If you don't want to see somebody, close your eyes.
Positivity and negativity depends on how much fresh air is coming to my room.
It leads me to an idea, that oxygen might help in extreme cases in dealing with aliens. You might not appreciate my idea, but look at M.Jackson and his alienship. Try oxygen,

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« Reply #589 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 3:16pm »

on Jun 24th, 2006, 2:03pm, woodgnome49 wrote:
The government does not want us to know, that they know, what they know! The government having begun by denying the truth and asserting the nonexistence of aliens and UFOs cannot now recant and disclose that they knew all along. To do so would undermine their authority and call into question their honesty.


Again, some of this you may have already read this before. Things get buried here in the Casebook but so I like to repeat them if the subject comes up again and I always add to them. If you have already read, please read again because I've added.

I like to term such things we see on the Internet in respect to government conspiracy and disinformation campaigns as paranoidal theories.

Most really do not sit and dwell on the subject and instead blame the government, which is thier first thought. It's everyone's first thought.

I sit and question the whys and wherefore concerning disinformation and/or the release of all government knowledge regarding UFOs and aliens - and I get help from THEM in the process.

Before you even begin reading, you have to be an unselfish individual and recognize that there are 6.5 billion people on this planet and not just 1.

First of all, it should be quite obvious by now that the government has known that UFO's have been in our airspace for many, many years. We, as humans can live in a state of denial quite simply since "the government" had not stood up to a microphone on the subject yet. It's simply human nature not to believe, until an "authority" has said so. Consequently, the majority of the world put it in the back of their mind and go on their merry way through their day.

However, one has to pretend for a moment that such a statement from our government that UFOs are definitely in our airspace, could be extremely detrimental so instead, one should think about why they care not to divulge such information.

For a moment, visualize that President Bush has just approached the microphone and it's today June, 2006. This is of course braking news and the citizens of the U.S. and much of the rest of the world watches and listens to CNN to see what it is he has to say.

The first words from his mouth sound something like, UFOs are in our airspace, and of course the assumption that aliens are inside of those UFOs is a gimmie. Of course I guess he wouldn't have called them UFOs since they would no longer be considered such.

Today, news travels extremely fast and now this information has traveled around the world and reached the majority of those 6.5 billion human beings.

Our first actions as human beings who still have adrenal glands attached to their kidneys would be shook by fear, fright, terror, horror, worry and panic.

Have you ever had someone put a gun to your head. Servicemen have experienced such fear being on the front lines in the Gulf wars and Vietnam.

Visualize just that for a moment and pretend that it is reality. That is real fear. That is the kind of fear that every living individual would experience if such a statement were ever released by our government. The worst thing about this is that we would continue to experience fear every single waking moment until the aliens made a move on their part.

Can you just imagine if one of the presidents from the 1940's made a statement such as that? The tremendous amount of adrenaline alone being constantly secreted through the day by your adrenal glands would make you so sick both physically and emotionally everyone would be on antidepressants or anxiety medicines if not dead from a stroke or heart attack by now.

Stress is the biggest killer in the world and the the worst kind of stress is brought on by fear. Besides the obvious ailments like high blood pressure, heart attacks and stroke, stress is also responsible for interfering with the amygdala in your brain and causing your hippocampus to shrink interfering with long and short term memory. A few years of this and those numbers would out number Alzheimers.

Fear simply cannot be instilled in people unnecessarily in our world. The aliens certainly know this, which is why they tend to be standoffish themselves and only give us bits and pieces here and there, now and then, which only instills more intrigue for the believers and wonderment for the masses. And, that number (the masses) continue to sit in denial, which is where I believe they were meant to sit.

More importantly, and the major point to my post is that as far back as Truman and to date, a facet of our government would have had multitudes of round table discussions on the subject.

Amongst that table you would find military, but more importantly the rest of the chairs would have been taken up by the greatest, most renowned psychologists and psychiatrists in their fields.

Those psychologists and psychiatrists who were brought into the picture on such issues would have stated their case on behalf of mankind, in respect to the repercussions if and when a government official takes it upon themselves to speak into a microphone at that infamous podium.

It is only simple logic that psychologists and psychiatrists were brought into the picture and here is a small handful of the many reasons why.

First of all, you cannot stop the economic engine. Such an event would stop many engines and end up looking like dominoes. Many nations would collapse.

Furthermore, one must consider the children and the elderly. Parents are experiencing fear, some are even having panic attacks and their children see the fear and become increasingly scared themselves causing psychological problems.

A large number of the elderly population are having heart attacks or at least experience worse fears threatening their current health problems.

Shall we talk about the churches and how they would immediately think that the world was coming to an end and that, (OH MY GOD! IT'S TRUE, THE ALIENS ARE SATAN) or some other nonsense like that. Or is it nonsense?

Or better yet, the masses who haven't been to church in 40 years or less and think that God is here to judge mankind and, and, and, the list goes on AND, it's a very, very long list. What you would hear about are jumpers. Out of buildings and off bridges.

Consequently, I believe that the aliens themselves will open that door if it ever opens and not the government simply because they do not want to be responsible for upsetting the apple cart.

Certainly, I have sat and dwelled for hours and 'questioned' some of the ways that the aliens could come in that proverbial door.

One of the ways, the top of my list anyway is that of a hero.

Just one idea on this could be to stop a nuclear warhead in mid-air over the ocean that was on its way to the U.S. or some other large nation from any of our current enemies that have the capability.

This is a door that we would now open for them, since they would be the hero and we shouldn't fear them because they just saved millions upon millions of lives. Why should we fear them?

Sure, the U.S. saw the dang thing coming but the aliens got to it first because they watched it as it was fired and disarmed any further capabilities at that very moment as well. This we already know they can do.

Because of this, anything goes in respect to how they could make themselves out to be the hero. It doesn't have to be my scenerio of course.

Their minds and thinking is beyond our comprehension and their thoughts and ideas are as unfathomable and numerous as their vehicles they travel in, not to mention the distances that they have traveled to our world.

For this reason, they could easily come up with hundreds of scenerios (ruse) on how to get mankind to open that door for them and not the government. Why would they want the government to be found at fault? No upsetting that apple cart either.

BUT, what is the very first thing that the people of the world will do when such event takes place?

I believe that they are going to flee to their computers and go on the Internet.

What words in search are they going to type?

I could bet my life on that first word being alien and the second word will be UFO.

Now, what are they going to find when they open up those websites?

They are going to find answers from us. Their answers are going to come from the nuts who believed in aliens and UFOs that have been ridiculed because of it for who knows how long.

They aren't going to learn anything from our government, they are going to be taught by us instead.

They are going to read and reread every single UFO/alien oriented website and forum they can find for answers to relieve their fears.

It is us that they are going to rely on and we will be online to relieve as many of their fears that we can. THIS, is why I like to see words like, "I think" or "maybe" instead of "I KNOW" or "It's a fact" because such things will bother the newbies. I think it's best to act like a government and not let them see all the gore.

As for Exo-politics, I often wished that they didn't exist because yes, in my eyes, I believe that they have a kookier story to tell, which could cause great confusion and greater fears for all of the newbies that didn't believe in aliens and UFOs previously to Bush's hypothetical D-Day.

So, like you, I 'question' such thoughts and instead of wondering WHY the government refuses to divulge UFO information, or deploys disinformation, I believe that it was designed to be as it is and proves that the particular government that made those decisions at that round table only had mankind's best interest in mind. Also why NASA is forced to be closed-lipped.



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« Reply #590 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 3:22pm »

on Jun 24th, 2006, 2:27pm, Mewtwo wrote:
smiley One should take care, avoid alien subjects, unless you belong to them, because after it's too late.If you happen to be born an alien


I cannot believe any of that. I believe that many have been told they were born an alien and are 'of' the aliens but I do not believe so myself and honestly, the ones with me sort of giggle when they read such things as I read.

They have told me that their lifestyle and in particular their knowledge is sooooo old and vast that our knowledge is the size of a cell, in comparison. This tells me that earth is where we live, grow and learn and it takes more then a great natured person to advance to another stage such as theirs.

And, one just said to me that this is absolutely correct.


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« Reply #591 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 3:38pm »

Oh, no, of course you can't be born an alien. Why should you ? Do you think that alien can be born as human ? Not possible.
First and best I ask: And who am I?
If you are an alien , you would know or not.
It shows and prooves nothing, your knowledge is kept at the base, so you never misuse the knowledge.
I do not misuse knowledge either.

The old proverb says that the Sun won't punish firefly for being proud of its light.
I don't speak of ignorance unneccessarily,
and can't fight with ladies.

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« Reply #592 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 3:40pm »

The thought struck me that the government might not be all that far from a defense. I speak of the strange triangular craft that appear to be patrolling our night skies.

This also can be reason for what appears to be collusion between
world governments and the scientific community in the coverup of
this phenomenon. It is quite possible that the campaign of
disinformation is targeted not just at the public but at the
“aliens” as well.

If the aliens are monitoring our communications, technical
advances, scientific advances and public transmissions the
campaign of denial would serve to cover up the attempts at
advancing our technology to rival their own. The government may be
hoping to lull the aliens into believing that they are not threatened.  

But are we able to threaten them?

The greatest advantage we could create would be to reach a level
of technology advanced enough to defeat them with out their becoming aware of it, however unlikely this eventuality is.

President Reagan attempted to tell us what he knew about aliens.
In fact His comments and his proposal to build an antiballistic
missile defense system based in outer space is the basis for my assertions and comments regarding why the government is continuing the coverup.

Reagan said that he told Gorbachev to think, "how easy his task and
mine might be in these meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries ..."

Gorbachev himself confirmed the conversation in Geneva during an
important speech on February 17, 1987,

"At our meeting in Geneva, the U.S. President said that if
the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials, the United
States and the Soviet Union would join forces to repel such
an invasion. I shall not dispute the hypothesis, though I
think it's early yet to worry about such an intrusion..."

Notice that Gorbachev doesn't say this is an impossibility, he
just says that it's too early to worry about it.

In a speech to the United Nations on September 21, 1987 the
President said that, "in our obsession with antagonisms of the
moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of
humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make
us recognize this common bond.

Reagan continued "I occasionally think, how quickly our
differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien
threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask is not an alien force
ALREADY among us?"

The President now tries to misdirect his last bold statement by
posing a second question: "What could be more alien to the
universal aspirations of our peoples than war
and the threat of war?"

Unlike remarks to the Fallston High School, That I first sited, we
must assume that the President's speech to the General Assembly
was written very carefully."

the President told us once again,"I've often wondered, what if
all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an
outer -- a power from outer space, from another planet." And then he
emphasized his theme that this would erase all the differences, and that the
"citizens of the world" would "come together to fight that particular
threat..."

Significantly, Reagan's remark was made in response to the
question, "What do you consider to be the most important need in
international relations?

Reagan wondered aloud “what would happen if the world
faced an 'alien threat' from outer space. 'Don't you think the United
States and the Soviet Union would be together?' he asked.

Shevardnadze said yes, absolutely. "And we wouldn't need our
defense ministers to meet,' he added."

From whatever reason or knowledge about UFOs that he may have
had as President -- Ronald Reagan spoke often about the possibility of an
alien invasion, and how this event could become a catalyst for
world unity.

The point I am making is having intimate knowledge as President
he was also aware that we needed to expand our scientific
endeavors into solving problems that may come from outside our world.
He was constrained in how he could do this but the need was clear.
The assertion that this was a missile defense system was a real
proposal and funds are still being funneled into it.

I suggest that an alternate purpose was to allow the mainstream
scientists a reasonable excuse to engage in discovering technology
to do just what he said and defend us from the outsiders.

Though he believed we as a nation could develop sufficient systems
to defend the world and our own country he invited the world
community to join us in this endeavor.

I suggest that he also knew that if he disclosed , that he knew that
aliens were real, his own mental state would be called into
question.

I believe he was successful and mainstream science has taken up
the challenge and is progressing along those lines.  

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They have told me that their lifestyle and in particular their knowledge is sooooo old and vast that our knowledge is the size of a cell, in comparison.

One should note that these things are liars and will do anything for psychological control. They're stupid, actually; if you read through enough reports about them, it becomes clear that the only thing they're skilled in is creating fabrications to make you willingly inferior. Ordinary bully tactics.
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« Reply #594 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 4:14pm »

on Jun 24th, 2006, 4:10pm, Zareste wrote:
One should note that these things are liars and will do anything for psychological control. They're stupid, actually; if you read through enough reports about them, it becomes clear that the only thing they're skilled in is creating fabrications to make you willingly inferior. Ordinary bully tactics.


There's no doubt that they use lies. They purposely lie to me to get reaction. I can always tell. I don't even use the "if it feels good" it's the truth - scenario. They have a specific reason for every lie they tell and during the day they'll go back and show me why they did what they did or said what they said, in respect to a lie. In sifting through their various statements, I use logic. It's all I can use.

From what I've experienced, they want to know what WE think while they tell it in the form of a lie first.


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« Reply #595 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 4:27pm »

Interesting. So a big purpose of the telepathic implants could be to test lies and see how well they work on people. Whether or not I'm right, they're even more focussed on deception than I thought.
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« Reply #596 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 4:40pm »

Why is there so much diversity in aliens?

I am aware of the many differing reports of alien types seen in
abductions and close encounters. Most say that this is evidence of
many different races from all over the galaxy visiting us. Another
school of thought suggests that they are all transdimensional and
originate in parallel universes. Still others say that these are
beings of a spiritual nature and spring from realms of heaven or
hell.
The scientist say these are nothing more than the fantasies of a
fringe society and those that ascribe to precepts that science can
not prove or explain.
As I have proposed I have been trying to envision something that
includes all the evidence as I know it. This is to try to form a
single picture that conforms to all the evidence.
I suggested that our descendants are returning to visit us from the
future in an attempt to repair their society. This is why we are
being sampled and genetically manipulated.
The reports of the various differing craft and the dissimilarity of
the occupants can be explained within my theory as variations in
the time stream and the attempt of parallel time lines to solve
their problems in similar ways. Which is to return to the past to
attempt to affect their own reality.
We must start with the theory of an infinite number of parallel
realities. If you accept the math then this is at least possible. In
that event, infinite parallel realities requires an infinite number
of possible futures. The assumption can be made that in at least
one of these possible realities reptiles developed intelligence.
Another world it could be squid, the next insects or even creatures or beings that have no known
counterparts in this reality.
Our own reality is only a drifting point in the multiple realities that compose the stream of time. Now is just a moment in time one point in an infinite number of like points all streaming through the universe of physical realities.

The appearance of aliens that appear to be reptilian could be the
descendants of a race of dinosaurs that did not die out 60 million
years ago and they just stumble on to us in their attempt to travel
through time. They have no real connection to our time stream
other than as lost explorers. As for any other anthropomorphic
aliens they could be the descendants of lemurs or genetic
descendants for any other species of terrestrial animals.

They also could be from different solar systems and distant parts
of the galaxy but the evidence we have so far does not stand up to
investigation.
We only have the reports of the abductees!
Many of these are extremely unsettling and even terrifying to those
that suffered them. The fact that most of the reported abductions
include assertions of mental manipulation, abuse, and control
makes me think that these individuals were not seeing what was
real only what their abductors wanted them to see.
Recently it was expressed to me that the aliens were omniscient
and all powerful. They knew what everyone on the face of the globe
was doing and thinking. they could tag you and track you anywhere.
and knew everything about everything. If this assertion is correct
is it not possible that they could manipulate awareness and plant
images and suggestions into their victims? Even if you discount
omniscient beings and assume beings only marginally advanced
from us. It seams to me that we must grant that they could deceive
us.
I admit the reports of abductees are questionable in this regard. As
an outside observer I must consider this in my assessments. As one
of my associates said,  we need to expand the investigation beyond
the purely physiological. The impressions and assertions of abductees can only be viewed from that vantage point. We must discount this evidence as suspect and attempt to discover the related consistencies of all the reports and encounters.

I now begin to believe that what we are seeing and reporting may
be in fact only one or at best two differing species of creatures.

It is true that individuals recount abductions, translocation, and
even intergalactic travel when describing their experiences. They
assert things that seem preposterous to people unable to
experience them. Their accounts are difficult to interpret as they are composed of images. Their attempt to put these things into words appears to the outside observers as a collection of sequential subconscious images. They appear to have a connectedness in fantasy or the mental balance of the individuals that protest them.
 
The actuality may be something completely different.

the individuals that experience these things assert they are telling
the truth and it is a communion with aliens. What is the connection here? Could it be both are true?

The subconscious is a place that we all have.
If an advanced race wanted to communicate with these individuals
they might want to use this method to communicate with and
influence them without having to actually be with them.

I postulate a possible encoding or manipulation of the synaptic
material to act as a receiver. It being connected to the
subconscious thus the need to communicate in images.

Dreams and the subconscious are intimately related and would
facilitate a receptive state for this type of communication. The
science of aliens could indeed be a source capable of this type of
manipulation. The abductees all state the same things. They assert that at some point they were abducted and experiments were performed on them.
What if it wasn’t an experiment?
What if it was a deliberate attempt to reconfigure the mind and
the tissues of the brain. Could this be the true reason for the accounts of probes and devices being inserted into their heads, up their noses, or in their eyes or ears? Chemical injections, repeated
abductions, and the progression of procedures performed on them
suggest a program of physical manipulation and alteration outside
of the genetic experiments. If the aliens are altering or attempting
the reconfiguration of the brain the assertion of the people that
claim communication in this was is easily understandable.
What these aliens have done is alter the electrical characteristics
and pathways in the brain and formed a built in receiver so
information can be downloaded from a distance.

What the people who receive this information are experiencing is
their subconscious acting as interpreter. I suggest the images are
composed of information that is resident in the individuals mind.
The information may not be verbatim what was conveyed and
transmitted to them but is the subconscious attempting to make
since of this information. What we perceive in our subconscious
are images we have composed to engage in conversations with
ourselves in our dreams as a function of our imagination and the
desire to solve problems. It acts within us as a way we can debate
with our self and form new concepts by the act of free association.
 
This would be the perfect interpreter for an alien race or even a
human one wishing to remain hidden or anonymous. This would
serve many purposes. It would first and foremost limit the exposure of the aliens to discovery. Second it would provide them a way to influence and provide information to the subjects of these manipulations without relying on having to learn an alien language. If they are human then the implication is it is a way to continue to
foster the belief in aliens and create a confused and complicated
trail of evidence that leads to them. Thirdly and I feel most importantly. This  accounts for the reason that so many people assert that they were in the presence of aliens but can’t come up with a consistent description of them.

This suggests that every one of them may be telling truth.
It states that these individuals have not been wrong or delusional
but trying in their own way to give us evidence and assert
information they received from these aliens. The problem has been
with our willingness to accept the truth of their assertions. Our
unconditional demand that we be given proof to things that can not
be proved.

Though the predominant number of physical encounters is with the
Grays and Nordic types This does not rule out all the others created
in the minds of those that have been altered for this type of
communication. Truth of their respective dissimilar encounters is
explained as a failure of the subconscious to form consistent
descriptions and accounts within this realm of alien encounters.

The fact now appears to be that they are recounting fact as they
interpreted it. What they were seeing and experiencing was a
manifestation of their subconscious but was inspired and impress
on their subconscious  by these aliens and contains information in
the images. the problem now  is, we are left to our own interpretation. What we must do now is discover what these
messages really mean.

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smiley Re: UFOs and Aliens
« Reply #597 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 4:50pm »

smileyNo, they don't tell lies but their truth is non understendable to us. Their words carry often different meaning than ours. For each meeting there must be a lot of compromise on both sides. They create chaos in our minds, not because their mind, but their energy is so different. You can talk to dolphin and he might talk to you, but who knows, what you were saying.
They awake your intellectual abilities, nerves and family and what to do with such a creatures with so much knowledge every day. Should they go where ?

No, I'm not making jokes of you,
morning, evening,
night and day and day and night,
please, mewtwo, don't make jokes,
it's too serious,
and everybody has cards hidden
in the pocket,
so don't play with such people,
mewtwo, and
don't forget where you belong.
Sorry, and where do I belonghuh

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« Reply #598 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 4:57pm »



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If this assertion is correct
is it not possible that they could manipulate awareness and plant images and suggestions into their victims?


Of course they are manipulating. It goes along with the "lies" posts. They are looking for reaction. Every one of my visions can be explained symbolically or metaphorically. These visions are messages, whereas other people that get such things think only one thing - that they were on another planet and now they think it's their home and they are a part of the alien civilization or something to that nature.

No, they're messages and all of them can be deciphered very simply as can OBE type of dreams. They are messages as well.


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« Reply #599 on: Jun 24th, 2006, 5:01pm »

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The scientist say these are nothing more than the fantasies of a
fringe society and those that ascribe to precepts that science can
not prove or explain.

One should be more careful who they call a scientist. Some nut case who doesn't know any facts and can't think his way out of a paper bag, for example, is not a scientist. Second, there's no need to bring up the opinion of every such nut case - we already know what they think because they bombard the world with propaganda from every direction. Third, they're the ones who invented the 'aliens are unproven and unexplained' system - consider the source before asserting those things.

Also, the aliens say they're from other planets and not dimensions tongue the answers to these things can be surprisingly up-front with enough data-mining.
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