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« Reply #735 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 8:04pm »

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Yes I have read many of the works and theories in physics. Hawking now has a new form of radiation named after him. He has apparently discovered that black holes do in fact give off radiation at a very slow rate and will eventually evaporate into nothing at the end of their lives.

Very weird to think that something so massive could simply evaporate. Im also intrigued by the new M theory and how it has unified string theory and super gravity.

Several programs have been produced about these new discoveries.
Nova has an episode titled the Elegant universe. and Megascience on the discovery channel has two or three that define and explain the new theories. It now appears that these new theories have finally enabled physicists to describe the entire sequence from before the big bang to present day. This is something no other theories have ever done.
I feel they have found the truth of it all and these new theories confirm that there are an infinite number of dimensions and all of them are distinct universes each unto themselves.
On one of these programs a researcher said that the next step would be to create our own parallel universe in the laboratory as a final test.
that is a neat thought to be able to create a universe in my work shop. Of course it would probably turn into Bizarro land or something like that. LOL

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« Reply #736 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 10:45pm »

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QOH I understand you have been abducted. could I ask you to relate your abduction experience and attempt to find contradictions in that experience that disputes or corroborates my contentions. I would enjoy hearing how and why if anything you experienced conforms to or contends with what I have conjectured.

Thanks again for your praise.

woody yes, of course i'll post about my abductions. but i must ask a favor and see if you can wait till i get back home. tomorrow is my birthday and hubby and i are driving up to austin to spend 3 days with my son. should be back on friday and i will look for the posts regarding the abductions and just copy them on here instead of typing them all out. i'll be able to get on since hes got internet, but just to check email and read posts quickly. i'll look for the posts when i get back on friday ok?
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« Reply #737 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 07:53am »

Hi QOH
That would be fine I can wait till friday. Happy birthday and I wish you many more to come.

Enjoy your trip and I look forward to your return.

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« Reply #738 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 10:32am »

Have a wonderful birthday QOH!

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« Reply #739 on: Jul 18th, 2006, 6:45pm »

If anybody is interested the episode of nova I spoke of is playing on our local PBS network tonight at 7 PM the title once more is the elegant universe. There are interviews with all the most recognized scientists and is a synopsis of the new string theories as well as those of time travel and parallel universes.


Just thought I would give you a heads up.

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« Reply #740 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 09:14am »

You know what, Woody, appart from that you are here and telling us things, we all heard elsewhere, with your intelligent and admirable posts deserving applaus from crowds around, it seems to me, my dear, that you forgot, that this forum does not exist because of people like you, who seem to understand everything.
Did you ever noticed that this forum is here because of other people , who were touched deeply by existence of alien civilisations , people with strange experiences and knowledge, which you understand less than old Chinese ? Did you , with your shining pride and intelligence ever make single attempt to understand any such an highly unusual thing practicaly ?
You would face a difficulty as everybody else does.
This world is full of people like you, they keep sitting in govermental offices and scientific laboratories, well protected by double wall of stone-like theories and unchanging schedules which no alien or human being will ever cross , protected well from possible disasters untill the last moment, safely advocating the statistic probability of happenings in heavens and earth.
Why you come here to spit on pain of those who know more than you and were humbled thousand times by dogmatics, catholics and parrots of all sorts,
why you write down things, which we all read on any other pages related to ufo and science, just to put them to different word order ?
You didn't make yet even one poor attempt to understand alien gibberish, you try to progress here with name of poor Hawkings and unified theory, which is not enough even to cook your lunch.
If you forget by chance, that there are people , who know more than you , if you want to present your human logic as peak of evolution and forget, that we are here because of more genuine experiences and knowledge , which you NEVER attampted to understand, it makes me feel sad.
We understand, that everybody has a problem to understand these things, but opinions simillar to yours I hear every day around, they look like smooth, wise and priceworthy words, but don't speak to my heart.
Why ? Because I 've seen other things yet than you did,
and your human logic is quite short to describe things correctly. I was looking forward to meet people here who know a bit about it, not people , who will keep reminding me, that this world, full of pain , suffering and underdeveloped theories is the master of final truth.

Think what you like, but I don't think that you are prepared to disscuss about possibility of alien life,
in my own experience, aliens don't talk to people about guns and roses , don't learn from our schools and don't teach people to ignore each other.
Because of this conflict between humans and aliens, children are crying, adults like you look ugly and this blue-green planet would turn to cemetery.
So don't think, that you, who are scared to learn more, than it's safe for your logic, are going to clear up the point to those of us, who come here with more heritage
and painful experiences.

Take care and keep smiling,

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« Reply #741 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 11:59am »

Okay folks, I am going to make a statement that I don't like to have to keep repeating. As I said earlier, we are all entitled to have differing opinions. Every single person here is a valued member. And no one is the only intelligent individual on this forum. We all have different backgrounds and different interests. I am very sorry that people have said things to upset each other. So, now I will also say if you want to have harsh words with someone do it by way of pm please. There is just no reason to drag the disagreement out so publicly. We are all here to enjoy discussing ufos and aliens and all are entitled to do it from their own viewpoint. There is no need to claim someone is acting like they know more than anyone else, nor is there reason to put down the way someone else phrases words or speaks on the board.

Geez, if we were all of the same mind, this would be a terribly boring place. And yes that is something I have said before as well.
What I want to emphasize here people is that we need to be respectful of each other especially when we disagree. We can disagree and still communicate without being ugly to each other. And disagreeing is by no means wrong, we can all stand a little challenge to look at all sides of an issue. That doesn't present any threat to who we are as individuals. Just means we are different.
Again, no one is the most knowledgeable person in all areas of this vastly interesting field. Everyone of you is valued as a member. I really think variety is the spice of life. That's why I like it here so well. We are a pretty spicy group of people.
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« Reply #742 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 12:21pm »

Very well said, Linda wink

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« Reply #743 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 2:51pm »

I fully agree, Creolelady , with what you said, just keep wondering, whether I should abstain from talking to people, because I disagree with their point of view.
Not that I deny the amount of information they gathered throughout their precious life, not that I think that they are more stupid or capable of broader point of view, but keep wondering if they are and will remain totaly deaf to what I say , because they were not taught this at school ?
I wonder if they are free to find a sense in others knowledge without puting it to strange cattegories,
if the knowledge as such is truely impartial timeless thing, why are we trying to hold on the convention,
are we still with the primordial fear of becoming uncivilised group of totem worshippers ?
Are we not dependent on each other as humanity ?
What sense will there come from fearing to say, no , you don't know yet, what is behind the curtain of this reality ?
Why do I say that - to make someone else unhappy ?
Not at all, I am just waiting for creative opinions on the theme, and believe , that those opinions are within each of us.
I don't feel very bold on relating my own insight to this unexplored realm, but me and others won't feel really courages if we are reproved all the time of being useless and being ignored. By what purpose ?

I enjoy much sharing this virtual space with so many interesting people with lot of different knowledges, experiences and opinions, but don't know yet, why all of my posts keep being ignored just because they don't say same things exactly same way as others,
and of course, that I can take it somehow as a sign of making me quiet, because I am not automat, but sensitive being and not mad enough to repeat my ideas endlessly again and again. I just refuse to become another computerised philosopher tight to his world, but as sentient human being, nobody ever notices my appeals. In the positive way, of course, I don't talk of complains and mistakes and misunderandings, which are natural part of our life.
I disagree with all of the religious dogmatism as well as with scientific dogmas and you can guess why.

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« Reply #744 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 4:26pm »

Regarding Creolelady's warning:

She is much more diplomatic, and easier to get along with than I am, let me say what she said, expect my way.

We do NOT allow members to rip other members, either personally or their comments. There is no way that we will agree on everything. That is why we have discussion. You can state your case without offending other members.

Consider this a warning! I have no qualms about booting a member from the board in a heartbeat.

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« Reply #745 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 5:33pm »

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So does Queenofhearts count as a 'member' in this case or is she really an unpunishable exception to every rule?
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« Reply #746 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 5:53pm »




Did all aliens read the rulers ?

And- are they allowed to be members ?

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« Reply #747 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 7:09pm »

Hi everyone.

I am saddened that someone would seek to harm me or defame me in any way. I was aware of Mewtwos attempts to draw a response from me and was studiously ignoring her.

Apparently she was not satisfied or willing to be left out of the discussion.
I was not responding to her and this angered her.
The problem was everyone else was ignoring her posts and not replying to her either. This hurt her feelings and she wanted to be included in a discussion.
She has accomplished that much if nothing else.
She finally drew some comments which she could respond to directly.
Her comments were not called for but she was willing to draw dissension in order to speak to someone in a dialogue.

I took on offense from her post as I ascribed it to the lack of attention I was giving her. I do read what she writes but still find most of it unworthy of contention or so badly composed as to make it unintelligible to me. I was seeking to allow her to say what she wanted while I did my best to reframe from picking her words apart. I felt this was the best thing to do.

I hope everyone understands I do not wish to hurt of offend anyone with what I post. I will do my best to bite my lip and not respond to people who wish to argue and fight on this forum. As I stated many times I have no truck with fools and only ask to be treated with as much respect as every one us deserves.

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« Reply #748 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 8:19pm »

Everyone of you is given the same respect as queenofhearts...and you too Zareste. Although I do not agree with many of your posts, I don't think you will find any defaming words from me. We can state that we agree to disagree without battling over whose viewpoint is correct. None of us are probably going to budge the others from their own beliefs about issues that are important to us.
I will repeat...if you have to be angry with a member, let them know by pm or ignore them as woody did in this case. If you pm them they have the opportunity to either respond to you or not respond, but no one else is dragged into it. This goes for all of us.
We all speak differently and it is not so much a matter of education or lack of it as it is a matter of where we come from. Not everyone on this forum speaks perfect English..probably none of us. We all can make mistakes either by using a wrong word, or phrase or a typo (certainly a big thing I do here type dyslexically when not paying attention.)
So, if you want to enjoy the conversation, I would love for you to be here. If you think you are the only person with something important to say, then you are probably in the wrong place. As I have said. Each and every person is important.
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« Reply #749 on: Jul 19th, 2006, 8:41pm »

Yes it's clear we're respected. The issue is whether or not this is a place where a moderator (QOH) can boundlessly wreak havoc.
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