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« Reply #795 on: Aug 15th, 2006, 1:14pm »

OK, thanks to Woody for offering me his precious advice last moment before getting expired and we here, with H.H.Dalailama, will pray for his swift rebirth.

Whether the previously mentioned story is going to be retold or better discussed , depends exactly on all of you. I feel no need to amuse myself with that for no reasons.

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« Reply #796 on: Aug 15th, 2006, 1:32pm »

I am certain there are other forums on the internet that allow people to speak abusively to each other.....for anyone who enjoys abusing or being abused.
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« Reply #797 on: Aug 15th, 2006, 3:24pm »


EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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« Reply #798 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 10:53am »

I've been through few more pages about alien-human related theories last days and more I inquire, more mess I find.
They are not even supporting each other , their pros and prons are self-contradictory and I have to admitt , that unless I have my own stable vision of reality (somewhere underneath) , I'd never continue reading those bla-bla theories without a danger of either getting mad or scared .
I believe that many people saw many things.
Still more people draw fancy conclusions out of that.
Most of the theories have neither proper structure and they are not based on personnal experience of the author.
They are inspired and like-to-be inspiring.
But how many spirits are there under the heavens ?
Have you not heard that not all of them speak truth ?

And what is the sign , that they don't speak truth ?
For me , the sign is, that instead of bringing peace and solutions, they are creating chaos.

May be it's always really interesting for someone, but the reason why I am going through it, is to know, ''what is on the market''.
I am not going to drive any conclusion out of those pages and theories , and not going to believe something else than I've seen with my own eyes.

It's a nice game , to believe somebody else, but it's slightly destructive for ones' own intellect and emotions.

Above that, the news I've got in Bodhgaya, were not meant for me alone. They were big enough news to contain whole of humanity.

I think, it makes real difference, whether we are ''children of Earth'', ''children of aliens'', or simply refugees on distant island of this planet, waiting for millions of years to find a way home.

We are here so long, that most of us do not remember our origins. We have only uncertain anticipations, fantasies, forbidden by official laws,
which tried to challange our believe system to mass degradation of human being to clone like experiment of nature (or aliens), to empty and ignorant descendent of the simple minded earthling.
See, this is the reason, where Darwin theory and alien-creators theories (call them Elohim, or any noble name you find in scriptures ) hold their hands.

And I say, that basically it is not true.
That Earth is not centre of intelligent Universe.
That we are sovereign race of cosmic beings, neither hybrids or experiments, and we had been one since long ago. So long, that most of todays ''visitors'' don't remember. Interesting, now ?
Because if they don't remember and find us in this pityfull state, they don't know, who we are.
And they've tried to find out with all their efforts.

I suppose, that some of them already know it, those who are good and very intelligent, they must know, how did we end up here.
Unless they know , I would not know either...
The other party behaves rather rude, they came to nowhere with their conclusions and think, that we are unimportant crossbreed of something and something else, and that they can do , whatever they like.

Who knows, whom it will depend on in the future.
I have no prediction and categoricaly disbelieve various predictions of others.
Why ? Because three quarters of them predict quick end of the world after some time and the remaining quarter predicts quick enlightenment without effort.

I believe it will depend on us and some good knowledgable beings who will help us ...one day.

I can't guess, how many days since now will pass, that first scientist will find out that we came from far away and proove it to be true. I won't be here that time, but I'm sure that it should happen.

Untill that time at least half of us shall let themselves be eaten by ''more intelligent'' aliens, they will work in their companies, become grey , tired and emotionless.

Still another people would leave with beautiful looking aliens with blue eyes, who can dance, sing and enjoy, and they will too become like them , but never remember their origins.

Few people will rest in freezing boxes...
Few will be carried to faraway places in the Universe as guests of some friendly beings.

And one day : the ship , which was broken will be reconstructed. Or another will come from our real home to take us back ?

It won't be soon . But we should never forget who we are.

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« Reply #799 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 5:47pm »

I agree many people come up with elaborate theories, but I think we are guessing with those. I follow my beliefs by my experiences (not the same type experiences you mentioned), and what I feel in every fiber of my being. I read everyone's posts with theories of this and that, but in the end, I am responsible for the choices I make in this life and the way I live it and what I choose to believe. I agree with that in your post that you must judge by your own experience when it comes to the big questions of where did we come from, who we really are, and what we are here for.
I don't know if I gathered everything in exactly the manner that you stated, I may have interpreted the post a little differently. This was what I felt and thought when I was reading the post.
Thank you for posting.
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« Reply #800 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 6:34pm »


Oh yes, I wanted to say, that the piece of truth that each of us holds in hands we have to hold firmly.

We can be sure with some amount of things, perhaps it's a capacity of our mind that gives the measure, and what is beyond the measure we can't accept anyway.

For example, with each of serious or traumatic life experiences the measure becomes more loose.
You are practically forced to understand more things, you have no other choice. If it was ''our choice'', we might not ask for such deep level of grasping.
But since we have to pass through deep feelings of responsibility, sorrow, compassion or determination or anything else, our mind opens to another level of understanding and there is no way to take this back.

I relate to my own and others genuine e.t. experiences, it certainly brings higher perspective of looking at things, and certain dogmas from there on appear to you like children toys. Good and bad children toys.

But none of these experiences is final so I can't rise to better level than where I'm now immediately.
I can't even probably rise by my own effort.
I didn't ''insert'' myself into that experience.
The pragmatic answer of '' soul responsible over its life''
doesn't suit well my most logical mind, which is not more than keen observer.
And I've seen couple of subtle coincidences which certainly do not come from my head and hands , but stood behind the most important experiences of e.t. nature in my life.

And just by glimpse of the complexity and complications of possible alien influence on my life or other peoples life, I feel slightly lost.

I'm sure with what I've seen clearly and it's something I don't worry about at all.

But what I do worry about is, that the causality of these happenings remains unknown to me, that some e.t.s are taking care of me such way, that I can't discern who they realy are and what is going on here.

From other peoples stories and theories (stories are better ) I can often take just one or two verification points , the rest is completely useless, because it adds chaos and fear to my mind.

So, I just keep ending: Oh, good, those people also think that ''they'' are here...

Some of them wear protection helmets, some talk to them every day, but the mystery remains , that they still have the strenght to establish clubs and organisations and build pyramid here and there , meanwhile I feel quite exhausted.
Brave people...

Sorry , if my thoughts are bit loose, but at least they reflect the true state of affairs in my mind... grin

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« Reply #801 on: Aug 19th, 2006, 7:28pm »

What happens to us in life is I think less important than how we respond to what happens. True we have no choice in many matters of what comes to us....pain, illness, traumatic happenings and the like, but I am the one who chooses my response to life. Whether I dwell on and attract only negative by projecting only negative thoughts and feelings is my responsibility. But I choose to look at it in a different way: I can't control those external things, but I control what I do with them. I could be angry all the time or regretful, I could be negative all the time. But I think it is better to take what happens to us, learn whatever we can from it and don't let it become who we are.We are more than the sum of those experiences. We transcend all of that. I don't have all the answers yet for who I really am and why I am here, and I don't need them at the moment. I think we evolve within ourselves as we move through this life. We have opportunites for further growth with each experience we have and with each person we connect with.
My view of this whole thing is that when we put here we were made to need each other. Everything cannot fall into place as long as we think that we are separately the only important person, or country, or anything else. We were made to function as a whole, not trying to each be better than or have anyone be subservient to us.
These are only my beliefs and I realize that not everyone will share them. I don't need to prove them to be correct, because they are mine. Something very personal that is an integral part of who I am and how I see the world.
Perhaps, if there are aliens out there watching, they either know that we need each other and want to nudge us, or perhaps if they are watching, it is out of curiousity at how we struggle so much when there shouldn't be a need to.
I don't know I have never met an alien to have an opportunity to ask these questions.
I am afraid that if I was abducted, they would probably send me back quickly because I would behave like a hyper child:

"What happens if I touch this button?"
" what makes this work?"
" are we there yet?"
" when are we going to get there?"
smiley I am afraid they might grow tired of me very quickly.
I am not really making light of a serious subject, just showing that I have an intense curiousity to learn all that I can...and it would spread to that type of experience as well.
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« Reply #802 on: Aug 20th, 2006, 05:23am »

smiley Creolelady, not to make fun of such serious subject, yet I think , that they love people like you.

According to my own observation , they are much more hyperactive than we are, they think, feel and work quickly on higher vibrational frequency and they love innocent curious children unless they want to gunpowder their living room.
In comparison to our parents they are much more patient with such behaviour and they don't punish people for asking or being nasty or emotional.
I talk about those aliens whom I know , of course.

And if they really don't want you to interact, they put you to trance or basin so that you close your mouth and stop pondering about it.

I've sensed that they often come close to human beings who are in great peace, doing meditations etc.,
because they have simillar needs as we have, that is, to calm down.

It's nice that you say it's all about learning, I'm just afraid if I've ever learned anything.
I suspect myself, that after some time, I'd be just sitting at the window, watching galaxies and eating biscuits.
I'm not the right type either...


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« Reply #803 on: Aug 22nd, 2006, 09:18am »


I'd like to come back to the original story . But even to me it looks like broadspecter thing, which is so easy to mistake for something else.
I've always thought that it will interest someone, but from the reaction in generall it seems that it's almost unreadable ...

What shall I do ?

It would truely need more people than one to help me to think about it, except that I don't won't make it object of phantasy.
As a practical matter, it has some implications and follow ups, both as personnal matter of course,
and as impartial order of things.

Would anybody else have an idea ?

I try to make good deal of jokes of myself , because if I take it seriously, I'm in stress as everyone else .

But don't think that I'm going to forget it .
I just keep worrying what to do with that.

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« Reply #804 on: Aug 22nd, 2006, 10:47am »

Creole you r so right about dealing with it according to your own beliefs. Hun you need to be a phyciatrist! Good words to live by. Tess
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« Reply #805 on: Aug 22nd, 2006, 11:38am »

Take me in scopes. But with regards to alien encounters ( don't mean imagined or psychotic encounters ), it would need alien psychologist at least.
Why ?
Because they have different energy. You can't explain to quite sober human being with experience in human psychology, what you've been through, especially if he or she keeps dwelling on idea, that all things in this world are somewhat simillar.
They are simillar, yes, like your dad and mum are very simillar to each other.

CL is certainly exception smiley .
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« Reply #806 on: Oct 3rd, 2006, 02:30am »

The attitudes are all a product of the current time we live in, and our current knowledge level. If you'd said the world was a sphere 1000 years ago, you'd have probably ended up at the shrinks, or the ancient equivalent... i think you have to look back at history to see how wrong people were sometimes, yet at the time they thought they were so right.
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« Reply #807 on: Oct 3rd, 2006, 5:59pm »

Many years ago I was going through a rough patch in my life and I went to a psychiatrist for help. She was a woman psychiatrist in Queens,NY who had recently emigrated from Italy. I opened up to her and revealed to her that I believed in UFOs and some of my experiences with them. She became very upset and prescribed halodon and other medications that are normally used for serious psychotic patients. She also wanted to commit me to a mental hospital. I exited her office as fast as I could.
Narrowminded people are very dangerous and their stupidity and limited minds can do great harm to innocent people. I have also had many run-ins with people who are threatened by the possibility of UFOs because it disturbs their "normal" structure of life and belief systems.

What do you think? Irwyn rolleyes
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« Reply #808 on: Oct 3rd, 2006, 10:18pm »

on Oct 3rd, 2006, 5:59pm, timetraveler wrote:
Many years ago I was going through a rough patch in my life and I went to a psychiatrist for help. She was a woman psychiatrist in Long Island who had recently emigrated from Italy. I opened up to her and revealed to her that I believed in UFOs and some of my experiences with them. She became very upset and prescribed halodon and other medications that are normally used for serious psychotic patients. She also wanted to commit me to a mental hospital. I exited her office as fast as I could.
Narrowminded people are very dangerous and their stupidity and limited minds can do great harm to innocent people. I have also had many run-ins with people who are threatened by the possibility of UFOs because it disturbs their "normal" structure of life and belief systems.

What do you think? Irwyn rolleyes


Extremely well stated timetraveler. For many of us, we have to live in the closet with our experiences or our relatives and closest friends will probably state the same.

As a contactee, I suffer just not being able to share with others in order to get some kind of comfort for what is happening in my life. Then again, even believers don't always believe either, which makes it even more heart wrenching.

Thanks for your words.


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« Reply #809 on: Oct 3rd, 2006, 10:56pm »

i think your right, it is unfortunate that a large preportion are still relatively narrow minded, as it does have somewhat of a stagnation effect on general progress. It is worse in my country, the uk, than it is in america i think. If we do get a report on television or in a newspaper of something strange, there is always a subtle sniggering humour to it which has a large influence on how the average person will judge the story, and in turn judge the people who take it more seriously. The fear of embarrassment or being wrong is still holding us back. Another good example is the science fiction programmes we produce now - almost all comedies. The BBC recently resurrected Dr Who, which they turned into a pop culture joke - says a lot.
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