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« Reply #825 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 05:22am »

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Put 21.12.2012 or 21 December 2012 or December 21, 2012 into your search engine and see what comes up...... You will be surprised.

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« Reply #826 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 08:34am »

Luvey, I did check that out and you are so right....I was surprised at what I saw. I saved a few of the pages so I can read them later. This Universe is so simple and so complicated at the same time, that you have to be a physicist to understand it all. I'm very intrigued about the sacred geometry of the Universe.

I've read in several places, that the end is coming, that's for sure......and how we handle it is the important thing. We need to start meditating more, loving others more, loving God more, making the moral choices we should be making........and if we do all that, we can be sure God himself will help us during the chaos that is sure to happen. He will protect us somehow, or he will take us to another reality. What an adventure we have in store for us!!

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« Reply #827 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 08:59am »

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I've read in several places, that the end is coming, that's for sure......and how we handle it is the important thing. We need to start meditating more, loving others more, loving God more, making the moral choices we should be making........and if we do all that, we can be sure God himself will help us during the chaos that is sure to happen. He will protect us somehow, or he will take us to another reality. What an adventure we have in store for us!!


I found this link for you Star, which is fairly comprehensive:
http://www.halexandria.org/dward415.htm

I agree with you Star, but I also believe its not too late.....I believe the more people that change towards a more loving and accepting way.....it will effect the critical mass......and change the vibrations.

Do you remember the fires all around Hollywood a number of years back.....there was a Buddhist Monk who lived there, and the fires burnt the homes all around him but never touched his home...... It got me to thinking a great deal.....how powerful the mind can be. Our minds are our tools.....to shape a better world by affecting the critical mass.

At present there is a lot of hostility in the world which is overloading the vibrations the other way......
God is within us all......and we have God's power to a lesser degree by being co-creators with God.....so we have the power to change things.....

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« Reply #828 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 10:02am »

on Oct 8th, 2006, 05:22am, Luvey wrote:
Hi Kol smiley

Put 21.12.2012 or 21 December 2012 or December 21, 2012 into your search engine and see what comes up...... You will be surprised.

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I Googled it and found 15,300,000 website addresses with December 12, 2001.

I get in trouble around here for quoting the Bible but it is our duty to do so, so I hope you all understand that I must do this.


Mark 13:30-32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, until all these things be accomplished. 31 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 32 But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

My point being, how can mankind know it to be December 12, 2012, when only the father knows when?

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« Reply #829 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 11:48am »

Luvey, I think you could be right. It's possible it's not too late to change things around, but I think that we are kind of past the point of no return. The protection of that Monk who was on a higher vibrational level is what can happen to us. We can be protected from the chaos if we grow in spirituality. .

Atrueoriginal, it's true that in the bible Jesus said that nobody but the Father knows when the end will be.......but he also said to watch for the "signs of the times"....and I think it's in Revelations that the "signs" are layed out to watch for. Of course, we don't really know the exact date, but the signs are all there.....and if you look at the way things are going in the middle east, it looks very bleak, to say the least. The whole thing could mushroom into a war like we have never ever seen before........possibly Armageddon?

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« Reply #830 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 2:29pm »

The signs that we are seeing have all happened before at different times, there is a cycle for some things in nature, so I don't try to put a date on the end times. We have also gone through the wars and rumors of wars throughout human history as well. There will always be problems with setting a point in time when we have arrived at all of these things because humans seem to make the same stupid mistakes over and over again. You'd think we would have learned by now, but we still fight over territory or natural resources, and still trash our beautiful planet. Nope, we are just not the brightest crayons in the box of God's creation.
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« Reply #831 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 5:08pm »

The Mayans aren't the only ones that have come up with the 2012 year. I believe Edgar Cayce came up with a time that is close to that. I'm not sure if I want to be here at the end or not. cheesy
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« Reply #832 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 8:59pm »

Relax....what are you going to do about it anyway? If the world, creation, our reality ended tomorrow, do you think our typed words on this website make a difference? Please.

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« Reply #833 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 10:29pm »

A quick search on the internet and I found that the Mayan Calendar predates the Bible by 2,000 years... Also that date comes from the I Ching as well.

Another date that has come up is 24.12.2011. I first heard about that date more than 20 years ago on "Chariots of the Gods". I think also Mayan. Going from memory I think it was the date that the Aliens were 'it was thought', supposed to return.....

I am perfectly relaxed thanks HJ...... I noticed in an earlier post that the year 2012 came up and I was just pointing out the amount of information on the web about the date 21.12.2012.

I am a great believer that thoughts are energy, and have life. The more people thinking doom and gloom it will create that reality. The thing to do would be to try and change our brain waves from Beta to Alpha.

ATO, I don't want to sound disrespectful but can you please clarify this for me. I have no problems with you quoting the Bible BTW.

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Are you speaking for yourself and your family or are you speaking for everyone on the web site, or are you speaking for BJ and all the moderators? Just so I understand..... smiley

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« Reply #834 on: Oct 8th, 2006, 10:40pm »

If I may:

If I remember, the date 12/23/2012 came from three sources:

1. The Great Pyramid in Egypt. There is a corridor with a length that corresponds to our calender. The hallway ends at 2012, or branches only upwards, or something like that. Search for the "great pyramid" and "2012."

2. They Mayans(or was it the Aztecs? I always get those two mixed up) had a calender that was so precise, it is still predicting lunar eclipses that have yet to happen. They believed life was a cycle-imagine an analogue clock, after 12, it's 1 again. 12/23/2012 is midnight for us, the beginning of a new day.

3. I may be wrong, but I think the people on Easter Island came up with the date as well. But I can't remember much about it, and I don't know how much we really know about Easter Island. I think a lot went on there that we may never know. sad

Still, there's a few problems. First of all is the fact that the Mayans had a more precise and simple calender than we do. They Egyptians, instead of using the solar calender like everyone else around them, used one based off of their religion-which I would guess screw things up even further. So although I don't *know*, I would hesitate to assume that the 2012 we are expecting is the right 2012.

I can say, with certain assurity, that going by our AD or "CE" calender, that we are off by four years. Christ was not born in year 0-there was no year 0. And, putting in the 3 years we somehow "lost" in the middle ages, that would make us have to adjust our years by four...so now would actually be 2010, not 2006. Maybe we're closer than we think...

And Armegeddon never takes place. It's a war where everyone against God (the "adversaries"?) march up against His city, and God sends down fire and just destroys them all and everyone cheers. undecided

You know, back in 2000, my poor grandmother was afraid that y2k would cause a bit of chaos. I thought it was funny at first, but she had my baby sisters take water in jugs and gallons out to the storage sheds in her backyard. That night, she sat up late watching tv, I guess afraid Jesus was on his way. After a while, I tried to explain to her that it *already was* Jan 1, 2000 in Australia...it was sad.

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Really guys, just because aliens have come to us in the middle of the night and floated us out of our windows and shown us advanced techological wonders that no one else believes is no reason for us to lose our heads.
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« Reply #835 on: Oct 9th, 2006, 12:03am »

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I can say, with certain assurity, that going by our AD or "CE" calender, that we are off by four years. Christ was not born in year 0-there was no year 0. And, putting in the 3 years we somehow "lost" in the middle ages, that would make us have to adjust our years by four...so now would actually be 2010, not 2006. Maybe we're closer than we think...

I have read of this too, many years ago...... Just searched for some information on it.... for those interested. smiley

http://www.florilegium.org/files/TIME/calenders-msg.html
Bede calculated Creation to have occurred 3,952 years before 1 CE, making it (in 1991 CE) the year 5943 AMB, while Eusebius calculated 5,198, making it (in 1990 CE) the year 7189 AME.

The year of the Christian Nativity must be ascertained by historical and chronological research, since there is no certain and harmonious tradition on the subject. The Christian era, which was introduced by the Roman abbot Dionysius Exiguus, in the sixth century, and came into general use two years later, during the reign of Charlemagne, puts the Nativity Dec. 25, 754 Anno Urbis, that is, after the founding of the city of Rome. Nearly all chronologers agree that this is wrong by at least four years. Christ was born 750 AU (or 4 BCE, if not earlier).

According to Mt 2:1 (comp. Lk 1:5, 26), Christ was born "in the days of King Herod" I,"the Great," who died, according to Josephus, at Jericho, 750 AU, just before Passover. This date has been verified by the astronomical calculation of the eclipse of the moon, which took place March 13, 750 AU, a few days before Herod's death.

Allowing two months or more for the events between the birth of Christ and the murder of the Innocents by Herod, the Nativity must be put back at least to February or January, 750 AU (or 4 BCE), if not earlier.


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I agree Kol grin rofl.......

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« Reply #836 on: Oct 9th, 2006, 07:26am »

on Oct 8th, 2006, 10:29pm, Luvey wrote:
ATO, I don't want to sound disrespectful but can you please clarify this for me. I have no problems with you quoting the Bible BTW.

Are you speaking for yourself and your family or are you speaking for everyone on the web site, or are you speaking for BJ and all the moderators? Just so I understand..... smiley


Well no, it's just a couple of things that have happened in the past. One is that BJ doesn't want religious wars in here. He'll delete a thread completely if it happens. Another being that there are members that are not Christians and don't want to hear it even though it is our duty as Christians to back up something with chapter verse and not our own thoughts necessarily. And, unfortunately some do not care to be corrected with chapter verse, which causes personal situations.

It really is no big deal but as long as I am short and sweet about it, then I can still get away with some of it without causing too big a stir. I always relate everything to chapter/verse in my mind so it's a habit of mine. lol

I'm sure you can just imagine with 3500 posts that there was ample activity on the subject in here more then once over the years.

The biggest problem is the dang computer. It is feelingless and emotionless. It has no hand gestures, facial expressions or tone of voice. Because of this, many read something I might write in their own tone, whatever that might be. They don't know me or have a clue as to my mannerisms personally so they really have no idea what I'm all about when they read.

I've tried in the past to portray myself somewhat in respect to our avatars and other things but it's tough to get yourself across to someone on this dang computer. lol

Here's me. I'm plain, I'm simple, I'm a mom and I am a comedian. I'm told that I am one of the funniest people someone has ever met personally. Nobody knows that about me. They have a completely different picture of me actually. I know this but have to just let it go because I also know this dang computer. lol

Remember the thread with the - "You guys are losing it" statement. Change the tone to someone trying to be funny and not sarcastic. That was all it was but it was taken as sarcasm. See, it's that dang computer again.

I can't tell you the number of times I've hand my finger on my 'delete membership' button. I get aggravated certainly but I just walk it off and remind myself that it's the dang computer.

The computer is a very mean and uncaring individual so you have to watch out for him. lol And yes, it's a him. lol

Oh, almost forgot one more thing. I have a bad habit of not using smilies. I know that can make the difference but I hate the darn things. rolleyes

This is 10 years old taken at Chuckie Cheeses, but appropriate for anyone to see that I'm just a plain ole mom and that's about it - besides being a card of course.

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« Reply #837 on: Oct 9th, 2006, 09:40am »

aw!c'mon ato. you rule with a rod of iron heh heh. grin most that come here do respect your opinion ,and some of us even like your sense of humour. just like any relationship , it's hard to get to know someone especially if you can't hear see or touch them. the written word has it's limitations and when that is all that is available it can often lead to misunderstandings and is always open to interpretation. thats why we have had fights over written documents in the past ( like the christian bible) . half of the trouble in the world is caused by the misinterpretation of that other great book ( the koran) ,would you not agree?
anyway i agree with b.j. this should not be the forum to debate the virtues of one religion over another except when it has a direct bearing on the ufo phenomena. gee i hope i didn't just tread on broken glass. wink
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« Reply #838 on: Oct 9th, 2006, 09:42am »

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Well no, it's just a couple of things that have happened in the past. One is that BJ doesn't want religious wars in here. He'll delete a thread completely if it happens. Another being that there are members that are not Christians and don't want to hear it even though it is our duty as Christians to back up something with chapter verse and not our own thoughts necessarily. And, unfortunately some do not care to be corrected with chapter verse, which causes personal situations.


What prompted me to ask the question is that you used the word "Our" instead of "mine or my", and I thought it may have been site policy or something.
On a web site such as this people are reading it from all over the world, from all walks of life, and from all religions and no religion.....because Aliens don't care and are not selective on what religion/and or no religion - when they abduct people.

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The biggest problem is the dang computer. It is feelingless and emotionless. It has no hand gestures, facial expressions or tone of voice. Because of this, many read something I might write in their own tone, whatever that might be. They don't know me or have a clue as to my mannerisms personally so they really have no idea what I'm all about when they read.


Although I am not into judging people, I do know that everyone comes from their own perspective from their own unique set of experiences. When writing anything I try and see it how the other person may be reading it, and rewrite it many times until I think I have got it so I am not offending anyone. Its not easy and one can offend someone without even realising it.....because they are still coming from their own set of unique circumstances/experiences. As that saying goes: "You can please some of the people, some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of the time".

I am just an ordinary Mum too.....

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Remember the thread with the - "You guys are losing it" statement. Change the tone to someone trying to be funny and not sarcastic. That was all it was but it was taken as sarcasm. See, it's that dang computer again.
I can't tell you the number of times I've hand my finger on my 'delete membership' button. I get aggravated certainly but I just walk it off and remind myself that it's the dang computer.


That is when its time to go meditate and put things into perspective. I would not get too upset over what people think or say.....its what you think about yourself that is important.

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I love the little critters.....because they give me a better way to express myself....

BTW you have very kind, smiling eyes.

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« Reply #839 on: Oct 9th, 2006, 09:53am »

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the written word has it's limitations and when that is all that is available it can often lead to misunderstandings and is always open to interpretation. thats why we have had fights over written documents in the past ( like the christian bible) . half of the trouble in the world is caused by the misinterpretation of that other great book ( the koran) ,would you not agree?


Well spoken Diamond...... I was rummaging around in my brain for what you said......trying to find the right words.....without offending.....and gave in.....only to find that you had already done so.....

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ROFL...... grin Now that is a real matter for debate.....hehehe

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