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« Reply #225 on: Jan 1st, 2012, 2:36pm »

Only the prime directive we think of. Assuming they are real of course.

But wouldn't tampering with a races technology level be a bit like giving the kid you're babysitting an AK-47 to keep them busy while you watch TV?
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« Reply #226 on: Jan 1st, 2012, 2:40pm »

on Jan 1st, 2012, 2:36pm, icepick wrote:
Only the prime directive we think of. Assuming they are real of course.

But wouldn't tampering with a races technology level be a bit like giving the kid you're babysitting an AK-47 to keep them busy while you watch TV?


You must be referring to the Star Trek one,...but you know that's just science fiction.
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I don't think any advanced race would give us any weapon tech...unless of course they wanted us to destroy ourselves.
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« Reply #227 on: Jan 1st, 2012, 2:58pm »

Yes, but the Trek example is the wisest course. Why? In destroying ourselves, we could easily take the donor race with us.

Personally, I doubt any conscientious race would even expose themselves to us. Hence my contention that, if the Greys exist, we'd best give them a motivation test. Or perhaps you can think of a VALID scientific reason they would expose themselves to select, random individuals?
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« Reply #228 on: Jan 17th, 2012, 11:47pm »



UFO contact and possible communication?

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« Reply #229 on: Jan 17th, 2012, 11:59pm »



Another good one.

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« Reply #230 on: Jan 18th, 2012, 10:20am »

on Jan 1st, 2012, 2:58pm, icepick wrote:
Yes, but the Trek example is the wisest course. Why? In destroying ourselves, we could easily take the donor race with us.

Personally, I doubt any conscientious race would even expose themselves to us. Hence my contention that, if the Greys exist, we'd best give them a motivation test. Or perhaps you can think of a VALID scientific reason they would expose themselves to select, random individuals?


I can't think of an valid reason why the 'aliens' expose themselves to the various people they do and often in such absurd ways......which is why I have a problem with the ETH as an explanation for visiting 'aliens'.
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« Reply #231 on: Jan 18th, 2012, 3:57pm »

Like any sort of race of beings that have needed science to advance their race into the stars I consider the Greys to be Anthropological in nature. So they will need to do random abductions of humans.

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« Reply #232 on: Feb 12th, 2012, 7:10pm »

Same UFOs in Mexicali that are in Russia

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2012/videochelyabinsk.html

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2012/videomexicaliagain.html

Whether this is US or ETs space craft at the end of the day these UFOs are testing our defences. As they are both close to boarders of other major nations.
Possible surveillance of weak spots to observation of high tension areas.

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« Reply #233 on: Feb 12th, 2012, 10:33pm »

on Jan 18th, 2012, 10:20am, drwu23 wrote:
I can't think of an valid reason why the 'aliens' expose themselves to the various people they do and often in such absurd ways......which is why I have a problem with the ETH as an explanation for visiting 'aliens'.


Scientific observation as we understand it actually forbids contaminating the subject with things like exposing it/them to something which would impact its state. This creates huge issues in my mind for so many occurrences of open contact.

What might the intelligence differential be? Would we be as close to them as a Neanderthal would be to us? Or are we talking Homo Erectus here? One thing is a fairly sure bet. No conversation they would consider intelligent would be taking place.
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« Reply #234 on: Feb 12th, 2012, 11:28pm »

on Feb 12th, 2012, 10:33pm, icepick wrote:
Scientific observation as we understand it actually forbids contaminating the subject with things like exposing it/them to something which would impact its state. This creates huge issues in my mind for so many occurrences of open contact.

What might the intelligence differential be? Would we be as close to them as a Neanderthal would be to us? Or are we talking Homo Erectus here? One thing is a fairly sure bet. No conversation they would consider intelligent would be taking place.


I think their actions speak louder than words and they have had very little to say to the people they abduct.

It has been noted on numerous times that some abductees have had their reproductive products used to genetically modify the Greys ETs to be more human.

The main reason for this it would seem to be some sort of benefit for their race, to put it bluntly.

The reason for this is numerous and speculative. eg

1 Grey ETs as a race are so old that their genetics have become weak and need the support from other species.

2 Grey have come to understand that they are lacking in qualities that they would like to have. eg creative individual thought and possibly emotions.

3 Closer ties with humanity once full Exopolitics has occurred or full invasion of Earth before or after an Extinction Level Event (ELE).

Their are times I feel that Reagan was correct in thinking that what will unite humanity will be an invasion from another ET race.

I find the abductions so abhorrent at times I feel like we might need to take a war footing against these Greys until they stop abductions and show more peaceful way of trading with humanity.

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« Reply #235 on: Feb 14th, 2012, 12:04am »

Yes, Reagan was very correct in his belief that an alien invasion would unite mankind. And the foreign policy side of his administration makes an excellent case for things not always being what they seem as well. Starting out with all that Evil Empire rhetoric, and a second arms race, which all turned out to be nothing more than ploys to get the START Talks rolling. Much may be the same with ET.

The Hebrews were the first to make a written record of what seems suspiciously like other worldly visitors. Most notably the story of the Fallen Angels and the Nephilim. Beyond them however, the Ancient Astronaut crowd has so thoroughly clouded the landscape with wild claims that it's hard to find accurate reports. But there are many indications visitations were happening before the Hebrews recorded those stories, and have happened ever since.

All of this compounds with the human tendency towards embellishment of course. But the more reports we explain away, the clearer it becomes that there is something concrete to this phenomenon. While reports of a cludgy contained vortex engine allegedly having been developed neatly explains away the Triangles, it does no such thing for the box shaped UFOs which have been reported on occasion with great similarity through the years. That would probably require a Dipole device to control gravity:

http://dipoleantigravity.blogspot.com/2007/04/is-space-travel-possible-using-this.html

Despite research in this area since WWII, it is highly doubtful we have developed this. And there are other reports of great consistency which indicates an unearthly presence from time to time.

It all adds up to a complex phenomenon so confusing it's hard to make any determination about any part of it. Someday we will know, but until then the line that separates the reality from the myth will be impossible to find. Somebody needs to make a checklist or something for people willing to make reports. Maybe then a pattern would emerge so we can have our answers?

This speculation is tough stuff, isn't it?
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« Reply #236 on: Feb 14th, 2012, 06:45am »

I concur with you last post.

At times I feel that I have been closer to the truth with what I have collected on this thread than anywhere else.

Plus with good UFO videos, speculation can get us very close to the what is really happen with ET contact with humanity.

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« Reply #237 on: Feb 14th, 2012, 12:03pm »

on Jan 18th, 2012, 3:57pm, GusB wrote:
Like any sort of race of beings that have needed science to advance their race into the stars I consider the Greys to be Anthropological in nature. So they will need to do random abductions of humans.

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Random abductions of thousands of humans..? To what end? IMO this is nonsense.
It has been pointed out by many over the years including Dr Vallee in his books that any truly advanced race could learn all they need to know about is in a matter of weeks at most by monitoring our media and taking any samples they need from a blood bank or other readily available sources.
And the nature of their exam techniques are less advanced than ours in some cases based on witness tales.
Unless there is some kind of ongoing millenia long project by the 'aliens' (and that is pure speculation at this juncture) then these repeated 'abductions' are simply ludicrous from any scientific point of view.
They, being the 'aliens', are either very bad scientists or the 'abductions' are not what we think they are.
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« Reply #238 on: Feb 14th, 2012, 5:25pm »

Yes Wu, this is one strange phenomenon. As I pointed out in my last post in this thread, the more we explain away, the clearer it becomes that there is something very concrete here. But we haven't a clue as to who or what 'they' might be, no idea if they're from another planet, dimension, realm, or even Earth. Or if what we're made to perceive is even the true concept/image involved.

My opinion leans further and further towards an entity with some vested interest of some kind. Of course that leaves the questions of what and why, doesn't it?

Every time I think I've come up with something of substance, it turns out to be more complications of the entire thing.

Speaking of which, I wish somebody would gag the Ancient Astronaut crowd. It's bad enough that people like the Egyptians left conflicting information in different places. Then along comes those characters playing it on both ends. How to find accurate information after they've .................... you know. Exasperating. No wonder scientists have taken to hiding their papers eh?
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« Reply #239 on: Feb 14th, 2012, 9:11pm »

on Feb 14th, 2012, 5:25pm, icepick wrote:
Yes Wu, this is one strange phenomenon. As I pointed out in my last post in this thread, the more we explain away, the clearer it becomes that there is something very concrete here. But we haven't a clue as to who or what 'they' might be, no idea if they're from another planet, dimension, realm, or even Earth. Or if what we're made to perceive is even the true concept/image involved.

My opinion leans further and further towards an entity with some vested interest of some kind. Of course that leaves the questions of what and why, doesn't it?

Every time I think I've come up with something of substance, it turns out to be more complications of the entire thing.

Speaking of which, I wish somebody would gag the Ancient Astronaut crowd. It's bad enough that people like the Egyptians left conflicting information in different places. Then along comes those characters playing it on both ends. How to find accurate information after they've .................... you know. Exasperating. No wonder scientists have taken to hiding their papers eh?


We are on the same page here. What do you think of Dr Vallee's Control System Hypothesis proposed in Invisible College, Messengers Of Deception, and Dimensions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallee
"Vallée proposes that there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, partly associated with a form of non-human consciousness that manipulates space and time. The phenomenon has been active throughout human history, and seems to masquerade in various forms to different cultures. In his opinion, the intelligence behind the phenomenon attempts social manipulation by using deception on the humans with whom they interact."
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