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« Reply #255 on: Mar 4th, 2012, 07:32am »





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« Reply #256 on: Mar 12th, 2012, 06:49am »

I do enjoy connecting the dots so bare with me.

To continue with the night vision it would seem now very obvious that ET has some sort of cloaking device to make their craft invisible.

When looking at translucent UFOs that seem to be unsuccessfully trying to be invisible.

Sendai Japan
http://www.ufocasebook.com/2011/sendaijapansept2011.html



Columbian Translucent UFO
http://www.ufocasebook.com/2012/videocolombianews.html

Chilean UFO
http://ufodailynews.com/2012/chilean-general-unveils-amazing-ufo-photos/945/

A nice collection to ponder on.

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« Reply #257 on: Mar 28th, 2012, 12:24am »

Night vision again but in Queensland Australia

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2012/videoqueensland.html
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« Reply #258 on: Mar 28th, 2012, 4:45pm »

I consider this to be important because just 5 years ago we were told that their was no evidence of life outside out own Earth. Very unlikely that intelligent life or advance societies exist at all.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/sci-tech/possible-life-on-100-planets-study-says-20120328-1vytq.html

This has changed to "They calculated that about 40 per cent of red dwarfs have super-earths - planets with masses between one and ten times that of Earth - in the not-too-close, not-too-distant zone where liquid water can exist."

We shall see how this develops.

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« Reply #259 on: Apr 8th, 2012, 8:20pm »

Disc-shaped Objects Seen Entering Pacific Ocean has a good photo of a USO.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/mag/040912.html

A number of years ago it was talked about how a spike at the front of a jet can increase the speed and reduce the friction.

I speculated that the US military had created a frequency that could replicate the spike and maybe reproduced in the sea.

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« Reply #260 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 09:30am »

on Mar 28th, 2012, 4:45pm, GusB wrote:
I consider this to be important because just 5 years ago we were told that their was no evidence of life outside out own Earth. Very unlikely that intelligent life or advance societies exist at all...


Please remember that this is all still speculation. We see evidence of rocky planets that could have liquid water and, hence, could harbor life. To date, however, there is no concrete evidence of either. That's not saying we won't eventually get that evidence - it's just not here yet.
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« Reply #261 on: Apr 13th, 2012, 01:33am »

See the link could be early human mutilations much like cow mutilations.

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« Reply #262 on: Apr 15th, 2012, 8:35pm »

Nice collections of UFOs that seemed to have happened during the month of February.



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« Reply #263 on: May 12th, 2012, 6:02pm »

http://www.ufocasebook.com/mag/051412.html

The article about the abductions was very interesting as it seems to be a new message form ET. Take UFOs and Abductions seriously and investigate them properly in a open and scientific way.I would extend that to a disclosure of it on the world stage.

I think their are many problems with this argument. These ETs seems to lack the understanding of how offensive and abhorrent we find abductions. This leads to governments never admitting that they can't control these abductions or even lack the ability to protect its citizens from these event.

I doubt that humanity could focus better at trying to understand our position in the universe without a major UFO global event.

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« Reply #264 on: May 12th, 2012, 9:54pm »

on Apr 9th, 2012, 09:30am, Voidoid wrote:
Please remember that this is all still speculation. We see evidence of rocky planets that could have liquid water and, hence, could harbor life. To date, however, there is no concrete evidence of either. That's not saying we won't eventually get that evidence - it's just not here yet.


Pure speculation and incorrect assertions at that. I do believe that folks like Sagan clearly stated that it would be a near mathematical impossibility for ours to be the only intelligent life?

As you said, proof is the elephant in the room. Or mice in the hall considering the sheer number of planets found thus far. Not to mention the number of moons that may exist in habitable zones around those giant Jupiters? I agree with your points. Since you seem to have no response from others, I thought I would say so.

If we are patient, I'm comfortable that we won't have to speculate much longer. Yourself?
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« Reply #265 on: May 13th, 2012, 6:16pm »

on May 12th, 2012, 9:54pm, icepick wrote:
Pure speculation and incorrect assertions at that. I do believe that folks like Sagan clearly stated that it would be a near mathematical impossibility for ours to be the only intelligent life?

As you said, proof is the elephant in the room. Or mice in the hall considering the sheer number of planets found thus far. Not to mention the number of moons that may exist in habitable zones around those giant Jupiters? I agree with your points. Since you seem to have no response from others, I thought I would say so.

If we are patient, I'm comfortable that we won't have to speculate much longer. Yourself?


Both comments are the mice in my head. Clearly there is life outside Earth somewhere in the Universe but not until their is absolute proof. But do we really need proof.

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« Reply #266 on: May 13th, 2012, 6:31pm »

We need that proof for one reason Gus. How will we know where and how to look if we don't at least have an idea about who and where they are? We are becoming extremely advanced in a big time hurry. With all the potential breakthroughs on the verge of emerging, how long before we launch a TRUE DEEP SPACE probe? The universe is a huge place and the curves which gravity wells produce in the continuum make vectors possibly infinite. Would it not be a good idea to know which direction to aim the navigational controls?

Not to mention avoiding contact with undesirable, aggressive species, or worse, possibly ticking somebody really powerful off? Yes, I do feel that proof is necessary. But possibly for reasons other than what you might think.

Consider this: what type of creatures are the most intelligent on our homeworld here?
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« Reply #267 on: May 14th, 2012, 06:53am »

I'm kind of with those who say it might not be such a bright idea to expose ourselves to other intelligences in the galaxy prematurely. Advanced technology and benevolence don't always go hand in hand. It wouldn't hurt us to lay low for a few hundred years.

My sister was reading a book recently called 1491 - about the Americas just before Columbus. The book suggests that, when the Europeans arrived, there were millions of people already living here and that, due to contact with unknown diseases, 90% of them died off. That is a staggering figure. Rushing into contact with off-world species before we're ready could easily have similar dire consequences.

FYI, here's the link to the book:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336996503&sr=8-1
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« Reply #268 on: May 14th, 2012, 08:29am »

I tend to agree with that opinion. The most intelligent species are usually predators. Even the other primates on this rock which are primarily herbivorous, are omnivorous enough to need good hunting skills. And of course you have us, the only primate which is primarily carnivorous. We are definitely from predator stock.

Any species with predator type genes would definitely be something a wise person would approach with caution. And we haven't even discussed your pathogen point yet. I see little reason for extraterrestrials to be aggressive in nature when you consider how advanced a star traveling species would have to be. But that advancement represents one more reason to proceed with caution in my book. Nothing worse than tangling with somebody who could KO you in the first round, is there?
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« Reply #269 on: May 14th, 2012, 09:29am »

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread452837/pg1
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A poster Phage on ATS summed it up nicely on a very similar thread I authored cautioning on blasting beacons like a boom box to space. I believe the Russians own ceti groups have done so.

We become the eatees (ets )get it? grin
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread452837/pg1
This is true whether its bacteria or virus or their precursors , which we can't prevent from comets or meteors, that may make it to the ground, notwithstanding the high temps on entry, or an intelligent, more technically advanced life form.

We like to say the universe is teeming with billions of lifeforms, and if the adage so above so below has meaning here, then we can visualize the same rules of predator -prey process from microbial to complex organism is played out and a grander scale as well each element seeking an advantage for its own edge in propagation.

Several types of bacteria are in the human body, and it was shown, that even they secret chemicals to keep other bacteria away. Just automatic,,no thought as we know it involved..the effect being of course domination of that food source, maybe at best for us a symbiotic relationship, like the pilot fish on a shark..or the same bacteria in our entrails that produce vitamin K useful for the clotting process, as I remember from old JR High School biology.

If nature teaches us from the behaviours of the smallest smallest, to our own history of for the last ten thousand of years, maybe longer, then we should be extra extra careful.

Sadly, with the new techs of detecting NEOsor asteroids, on a 24/7 basis we may now have little choice but be heard was also pointed out on that thread.








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