Re: Political ET
« Reply #61 on: Sep 28th, 2010, 03:28am »
What’s interesting about this is that overall the US military and NASA will not respond to this in any proper official manner. The media will treat it like a joke or indifference and make out like it has little effect on the average Joe. Sad but true.
Looking at it at a different angle with testimonies like these and say the Zimbabwe UFO incident of 1994. ET has made contact and his message is as follows.
• Don’t play with nukes • Stop destroying the Earth • We will not help you
The last one I put in simply because it would seem that their is no official civilian contact that has occurred yet.
Re: Political ET
« Reply #62 on: Sep 28th, 2010, 3:45pm »
The Zimbabwe-case is indeed a very interesting one. Smersh once made a thread about that. It's really hard to debunk since most if not all of those kids didn't seemed to had any kind of exposure to tv or comic books since they were living in a very rural area. Plus the children who witnessed that event (an UFO landed and beings got out with which they had a short telepathic contact, message described above by Gus) were all consistent in their testimonies. Also the sketches they made of the craft and of those beings, which seemed to be of a Grey type, were always quite the same. So it's very likely that they all witness and experienced the same.
I have to say that Im deeply concerned about new reports of military insiders talking to Ufologists.
We have had a few recently that have turned out to be of very dubious origin. eg Serpo, Source A, colonel regarding Dulce underground base with aliens and others.
This seems to be increasing which is surprising considering that a number of respected Ufologists have been embarrassed by false claims of military insiders just recently.
I should point out that so called military insiders that come forward to talk about "What they know" but can't go public, is very problematic.
The most common line is the US military are in contact with ETs.
What if that is not true and what they are trying to hide is a trillion dollar, black budget, black operations, which is funding highly secretive air and space craft.
Now that sounds more likely than the unverifiable rubbish that these military insiders seem to be feeding respected Ufologists.
Now if you extend this disinformation to EU, Russian, Chinese and Iranian governments, it is one way of making the information out there very muddy and confusing. A perfect out come really.
If fact we have more multiple witness statements saying they have seen US jets try and chase away UFOs.
I simply feel that nothing can be trusted when coming from any military source that will not go public.
I agree with a lot of what you wrote GUSb. I have a big problem believing any of this insider information. I don't even consider them to be whistleblowers. And some of the reasons we are given for them not going public: loss of job, loss of pensions, danger to them and their families etc. Isn't the internet public domain?
There are reputable investigative journalists to whom these insiders could tell their stories; and whose identities would be protected. But no journalist will touch this without some collaborating evidence. And none of these "insiders" have anything that could stand up to examination.
Why do they do it, these insiders? A little bit of money and notoriety. Speaking engagements, invitations to conferences, maybe a website and a book. They are opportunists, who want their few minutes of fame.
Some could, I suppose, be unwitting agents of disinformation. Fake documents and pictures could be easily left around for them to see.
No, I don't believe that Aliens are working with the U.S. government. However, I'm sure there are many advantges to having people and other governments believe that they are. There are also advantages to having the public believe that UFOs may actual be piloted by aliens.
They are attempting to weaponize space. Not necessarily because they is any immediate threat - but because there are oodles of money and careers to be made. And they will achieve it under the auspice of "National Security. You and I will have little say in it.
As for US jets chasing away UFOs - not even this can be trusted. How can we ever be sure that all this is not being staged for our benefit? The problem is that there is never any really good close up footage of these UFOs.
So, unless these "insiders" come forward with something concrete, I will have no interest in them.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Re: Political ET
« Reply #74 on: Oct 27th, 2010, 06:43am »
I'd also like to add that certain ufologists/researchers do a pretty poor job and don't even feel the need to vet their alleged witnesses/whistleblowers. For example the Source A-hoax could have been stopped from the get go if Dr. Michael Salla and Robert Morningstar would have demanded proof and the military records of Source A aka Richard Theilmann. But they didn't even thought of that possibility. Seeing him acting in a uniform was enough for them. That's not how it should work IMO. And in my eyes those people can't be called researchers.