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« Thread started on: Dec 11th, 2010, 3:57pm »

http://www.examiner.com/ufo-in-canada/3-very-large-objects-space-flying-to-earth

Well they (whatever these are) are on Sky Map. Think there may be one Craig Kasnov. So where's the press conference? Announced to whom?

I can see a scenario of the spherical objects everyone's seeing all over being interstellar probes replicating and sensing and sending info back to some other planet. And after a time for whatever reason other larger craft/objects come to earth.

Perhaps various ufos from various planets have indeed been visiting our planet over time -- but the spheres are not related to them and their creators are just now making the big trip.

Guess we'll see if this story is rubbish soon -- and the odd blue objects are simply artifacts afterall... anyone wanna search it out?
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 11th, 2010, 4:25pm »

Smells like rubbish.

Craig chimes in:

"Craig Kasnov? SETI astrophysicist? Hmmmm.

My name is Craig Kasnoff. And I was the one who 'co-conceived' the idea for SETI@HOME with David Gedye.

And no, I am not an astrophysicist.

If this discussion, or the article, is inferring that I, Craig Kasnoff, (and not Craig Kasnov) made an announcement regarding 'large objects rapidly approaching Earth', then that is just plain false.

I have not been involved in any announcement of that kind at all.

However, if there is a 'Craig Kasnov' who is a 'SETI astrophysicist', then you will all have to take that up with him.

My current work focuses on the issue of Endangered Species (http://www.Bagheera.com / http://TigersinCrisis.com).

The issue of endangered species was one of the driving considerations in my contribution to the concept of SETI@HOME.

To me, SETI@HOME was not only a way to confirm there was possibly 'life' on other planets, but it was also a way to confirm there wern't any South China Tigers, Giant Pandas, or Komodo Dragons, anywhere else but on Earth.

Because it was -and still is- my belief that when an animal is forced into extinction, that animal is not just lost to Earth, but is lost to the entire Universe.

And that is tragic.

Anyway, I hope it clears up any question regarding my involvement this announcement.

I have no involvement in it.

Sincerely,
Craig Kasnoff"
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 11th, 2010, 4:31pm »

http://www.seti.org/Page.aspx?pid=1492
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 13th, 2010, 09:11am »



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Because it was -and still is- my belief that when an animal is forced into extinction, that animal is not just lost to Earth, but is lost to the entire Universe.


That is a profound view. I wonder if the intellegence behind UFOs feels similarly?
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 14th, 2010, 7:54pm »

According to eburacum45 who posted in a thread about this at Space.com here, these images are glitches on plates taken in the 1980s by the Second Palomar Observatory Sky Survey (POSS II). They have only recently been included in some online databases and that's when people around the net began to notice them.

He also said the flaws only appear in single monochrome plates and not on other images taken at the same time on other wavelengths.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 14th, 2010, 8:32pm »

Most likely true Smersh. And just to keep this on the up, beware of pre fix Hubble images that are rumored to be floating around too.

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 14th, 2010, 8:37pm »

A little tip for everybody. When a web site spits more than two pop-ups in spite of a blocker? The site is lame.

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 15th, 2010, 11:28am »

on Dec 14th, 2010, 7:54pm, Smersh wrote:
According to eburacum45 who posted in a thread about this at Space.com here, these images are glitches on plates taken in the 1980s by the Second Palomar Observatory Sky Survey (POSS II). They have only recently been included in some online databases and that's when people around the net began to notice them.

He also said the flaws only appear in single monochrome plates and not on other images taken at the same time on other wavelengths.

Hi Smersh! smiley

Interesting, but I was wondering if Eburacum45 gave a link to the source of this affirmation?
I would like to see more evidences of this!
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 8:30pm »

on Dec 15th, 2010, 11:28am, elevenaugust wrote:
Hi Smersh! smiley

Interesting, but I was wondering if Eburacum45 gave a link to the source of this affirmation?
I would like to see more evidences of this!


Hi 11a, no he didn't unfortunately so I guess we'll have to take his word for it. I'd imagine he just remembered seeing them somewhere. I'm pretty confident he knows what he's talking about though because he is very knowledgable about astronomy and makes a lot of posts over at Bad Astronomy forum.

It might be difficult to find the pictures of course, I mean what exactly do we search for? I did just find a database which includes the POSS2 material, so maybe the pictures are here somewhere:

http://stdatu.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/dss_form
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 16th, 2010, 9:56pm »

I just posted to ask eburacum45 if he knows of a link to the images.
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« Reply #10 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 5:16pm »

Hi again 11a, eburacum45 has kindly given me the co-ordinates now that you need to enter, to see the images from the POSS2 survey at the database link I gave earlier here.

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Choose the 'POSS/UKST blue' option, and enter these coordinates

RA: 19 25 12
DEC: -89 46 03 - the first large object
RA: 16 19 35
DEC: -88 43 10 - a cylindrical object
RA: 02 26 39
DEC: -89 43 13 - the object as a circle

(Thanks to Alan G Archer for these coordinates)


And as a further note for anyone reading this, if you change the file format from the default "FITS" to "GIF" the image will display in your browser after a second or so. The first two objects show quite clearly.

(EDIT) And further to above, Adrenalynn over at Space.com has also given a link to the images at sky-map.org in visible light spectrum ...

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http://www.sky-map.org

Click the DSS button (second round blue from left)
Click DSS2 (Palomar and AAO All Sky Map 2)
Paste 19 25 12 -89 46 03 (first example. The others work too) into the Find box.
Click the magnifying glass (or hit enter)
Drag the zoom slider down several notches on the left ...


(EDIT again) Oh hang on I just noticed the skymap co-ords were also given in the Examiner article anyway ... wink
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 11:33pm »

Thanks Smersh! smiley

But my question was more likely about how he came to the conclusion that there were only "glitches on plates taken in the 1980s by the Second Palomar Observatory Sky Survey"

BTW, what exactly are "glitches on plates"? I guess that they are possibly photographic blemishes, Am I wrong? huh
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 18th, 2010, 07:41am »

on Dec 17th, 2010, 11:33pm, elevenaugust wrote:
... BTW, what exactly are "glitches on plates"? I guess that they are possibly photographic blemishes, Am I wrong? huh


Yes, they are said to be photographic blemishes. I just found a thread at (of all places!) Godlikeproductions here in which Craig Kasnoff ("schinatiger") who is one of the founders of SETI@home posted, and his post was followed up by a poster known as "Astronaut" who posted this time as "Anonymous Coward." (Anyone can post as that at GLP without having to join up as a member apparently.)

Astronaut wrote the following there and also over at Yahoo Answers here.

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... Furthermore, the "spaceships" in question are film emulsion scratches and problems on photographic plates that were taken some 20 years ago. These images have since been used to construct stitched mosaics in secondary sources such as google sky and others. The problems only occur in single plates for a given set of coordinates, not in the other plates for the same coordinates. Each plate corresponded to a specific color of light, that's how the color images were made for google sky and others, so a problem specific to one plate shows up as a vivid colored object in google sky. A real object, even one with a vivid color, would show up in multiple plates as it will reflect some degree of light in the other colors. Only a line emission would be completely specific to one color, in which case it would be some strange mono-element nebula, not a physical object ...


I've no idea who "Astronaut" is though. If he Googles his post he should shortly now see it here at UFO Casebook so perhaps he will come along to clarify. cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 18th, 2010, 12:41pm »

Thanks for the research Smersh! Great work.

I would add that on the godlike productions link you gave above, Astronut gave an interesting explanation on how Examiner mispelling Kasnoff's name:

"they spelled his name wrong because it was spelled wrong on this website.
They stole the name since it was attached to SETI and tried to use it to garner credibility for the claim. The real Kasnov spells his name Kasnoff and has stated in no uncertain terms that he never made any discovery involving incoming spaceships."
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 18th, 2010, 3:50pm »

This reminds me a bit of the beginning of Independence Day, LOL

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