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« Reply #75 on: May 17th, 2015, 11:08am »

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VILLAGE PEOPLE MY FRIEND ~ SO YA HAD THAT 12 HOUR GRIN EH smiley

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« Reply #76 on: May 17th, 2015, 11:55am »

on May 17th, 2015, 11:08am, ZETAR wrote:
DRWU,

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This thread keeps digressing farther away from the original topic...but as to 'Altered States'....I recall that film of the same name by Ken Russell , one of my favorites btw, and in the end after all the altered states that William Hurt investigated and encountered he 'discovered' that the 'ultimate truth' was that there was no 'ultimate truth'.

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« Reply #77 on: May 18th, 2015, 06:29am »

on May 16th, 2015, 09:59am, drwu23 wrote:
You can call it whatever you like and define it any way you like and place it in any religious or non religious model you like ...but in the end it's subjective.
Next issue...?
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Ouch, good Wu, the obvious problem with your (overly?) philosophical stance is that it seems willing to find some way somehow of looking at the beheading of a child (for the sin of adhering to Christianity or Jazidism) as somehow acceptable or justifiable.

Does ISIS have to get at your kids, for you to finally consider its actions plain and simple evil?

If we, as citizens of free, democratic nations allow ourselves to frame reality in purely relative terms, deeming all experience subjective, one morning we will wake up in a place where the folks with absolutist beliefs, wiling to die for such beliefs and divine truths have taken over and (God Is Great!!) crucifying your neighbors on the streetcorner.

(Slight exaggeration, but I think you get my drift cheesy!)


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« Reply #78 on: May 18th, 2015, 07:03am »

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...That would be a day to calibrate....

Do you mean 'celebrate' ?

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« Reply #79 on: May 18th, 2015, 07:08am »

And another thread drifts off toward religion.


The sooner all you believers (of any faith) realise there is no God and it is all in your heads, the better for all of us.

If these fanatics want to go meet their God, let's go and kill them; all of them.

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« Reply #80 on: May 18th, 2015, 07:13am »

on May 18th, 2015, 07:08am, INT21 wrote:
And another thread drifts off toward religion.


The sooner all you believers (of any faith) realise there is no God and it is all in your heads, the better for all of us.

If these fanatics want to go meet their God, let's go and kill them; all of them.

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First time I've wholeheartedly agreed with you! wink
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« Reply #81 on: May 18th, 2015, 07:21am »

on May 18th, 2015, 06:29am, purr wrote:
Ouch, good Wu, the obvious problem with your (overly?) philosophical stance is that it seems willing to find some way somehow of looking at the beheading of a child (for the sin of adhering to Christianity or Jazidism) as somehow acceptable or justifiable.

Does ISIS have to get at your kids, for you to finally consider its actions plain and simple evil?

If we, as citizens of free, democratic nations allow ourselves to frame reality in purely relative terms, deeming all experience subjective, one morning we will wake up in a place where the folks with absolutist beliefs, wiling to die for such beliefs and divine truths have taken over and (God Is Great!!) crucifying your neighbors on the streetcorner.

(Slight exaggeration, but I think you get my drift cheesy!)


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And once again, imo, you are missing the point.....no one is justifying anything . The point is that all concepts are subjective and based on human created terms and how people wish to define them. If you want to call 'something' 'evil' because it fits your personal ideology and models go for it (and we all do it at times..)...but as I said it's subjective (semantics) and how one wishes to define these things in the end.
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« Reply #82 on: May 18th, 2015, 07:57am »

...First time I've wholeheartedly agreed with you!..

An 'I love HAL9000' tee shirt is in the post.

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« Reply #83 on: May 18th, 2015, 08:37am »

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« Reply #84 on: May 18th, 2015, 10:36am »

on May 18th, 2015, 07:21am, drwu23 wrote:
And once again, imo, you are missing the point.....no one is justifying anything .


I would agree and that seems to happen a lot with these issues. There are probably several reasons that's the case, but the bottom line remains it's been repeatedly shown to be pretty difficult to functionally discuss manners information is weighed - the methods and protocols for arriving at opinions and statements - as compared to the specific content. Happens repeatedly that posters think an ideology is being challenged or justified rather than noticing the methods of examining ideas are being questioned and addressed.
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« Reply #85 on: May 18th, 2015, 10:58am »

JACK,

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"posters think an ideology is being challenged or justified rather than noticing the methods of examining ideas are being questioned and addressed."

CROSSING THAT VALLEY TO THE SHORES OF EVALUATION ~ TIS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT ~ WELL SAID SIR! ~ SOCRATES WOULD BE PROUD...wink

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« Reply #86 on: May 18th, 2015, 1:20pm »

Getting back to the original thread topic.........is there anyone here, other than Carol, who actually believes that demons ,as in Biblical fallen angels, are going around pretending to be space aliens..? And if so what makes you believe this?
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« Reply #87 on: May 18th, 2015, 2:06pm »

on May 18th, 2015, 1:20pm, drwu23 wrote:
is there anyone here, other than Carol, who actually believes that demons ,as in Biblical fallen angels, are going around pretending to be space aliens..?


The root of this belief would be believing the bible is true. The bible IMO is a set of rules created by the more intelligent of the time in order to control the masses. Put the fear of some kinda supernatural rubbish in the heads of the less intelligent & easily lead, then it's happy days for the few who benefit from the BS created.
To this day it's still the same; just a modern version it....

So no I don't. Ridiculousrolleyes

Having said that who really knows. I don't that's for surewink

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« Reply #88 on: May 19th, 2015, 12:26am »

The card of a MUFON Florida state section director as posted on Twitter:

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I'm not qualified to say what she thinks, but I'd confidently say most people would not understand the conflict of interest here between her personal beliefs (as suggested on her card) and the mission statement of the organization, the scientific study of UFOs. I don't think most people understand their beliefs are often subjective. I doubt they even know such ideas aren't facts.
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« Reply #89 on: May 19th, 2015, 03:45am »

on May 18th, 2015, 2:06pm, notdej wrote:
The root of this belief would be believing the bible is true. The bible IMO is a set of rules created by the more intelligent of the time in order to control the masses. Put the fear of some kinda supernatural rubbish in the heads of the less intelligent & easily lead, then it's happy days for the few who benefit from the BS created.
To this day it's still the same; just a modern version it....

So no I don't. Ridiculousrolleyes

Having said that who really knows. I don't that's for surewink

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Here Dej,you need this. http://biblehub.com/psalms/14-1.htm
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