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« Reply #15 on: Jun 25th, 2017, 3:59pm »

... Or do you really believe that the figure was higher for each listed location, because MUFON specialists sifted through and included in the Report only those sightings which could be according to the MUFON metodology classified without any doubt as UFOs?..

It is quite possible that a large number of reported sightings were filtered out because they were in fact misidentified natural or man made objects.

There is no point in filling up your data base with things that, although unknown to some observers, were readily identified by others.
This is why things are recorded on a standardized format.
All additional information is usually added as an accompanying note and kept with the pro forma sheet.

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« Reply #16 on: Jun 25th, 2017, 7:38pm »

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« Reply #17 on: Jun 26th, 2017, 2:00pm »

on Jun 25th, 2017, 3:59pm, INT21 wrote:
It is quite possible that a large number of reported sightings were filtered out because they were in fact misidentified natural or man made objects.

There is no point in filling up your data base with things that, although unknown to some observers, were readily identified by others.


According to MUFON the data released is just a number of reports received from different locations.

The MUTUAL UFO Network (MUFON) received a total of 624 UFO reports for the month of May where 470 originated in the U.S., according to statistics released June 1, 2017.

The U.S. was the top reporting country at 470; with United Kingdom at 38 and Canada at 35.

The three leading report states in May were California, 53 reports; Texas, 45; and Florida, 32. (which were the same top three for the previous month.) Other states with 10 or more reports include: Arizona, 22; Michigan, 18; Missouri, 17; Colorado and New York, 16; Illinois and Washington, 15; Oregon, 14; Ohio, 13; Alabama, Tennessee and Maine, 11; and Louisiana, Pennsylvania and Virginia, 10.

http://www.mufon.com/feed/archives/06-2017

The info is just ordered set of data otherwise unprocessed. Since the most populous states report the highest number of sightings, it seems that there is a correlation. Since Swamprat has replaced the May 2017 report with older releases, the interesting data disappeared. So there is no way to run the Pearson correlation coefficient test across all fifty states just to see how tight the correlation is. I'll do it with just those 13 mentioned in the above quote from that MUFON article. The result needs to be then interpreted.

The leading shape reported is again a sphere. That's the easiest part, because perhaps the only object of a spherical shape that you can see in the sky is a balloon - you know, the thing that the aliens downed in Roswell, New Mexico back in 1947. However, this persistent message is to no avail, because a UFO crash is more fun.

That alien message goes hand in hand with the total number of sightings reported in the USA in May 2017, that is 470. Well, zero is not a sphere in 2D - it resembles more a circle, the second leading shape reported. So let's see the crash:

47.................0
47...........0
47.....0
470 (ouch!)

The zero(balloon) just hit 47. Since the 47th state of the Union is New Mexico and it happened in the 47th year of the last century, there seems to be just too many peculiar coincidences... But as I said - a UFO crash is much more fun.





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« Reply #18 on: Jun 26th, 2017, 3:15pm »

"Since Swamprat has replaced the May 2017 report with older releases, the interesting data disappeared."

Travex, what in the world are you talking about? I haven't "replaced the May 2017 report" with ANYTHING! The May report is still there, along with the others.
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 26th, 2017, 3:33pm »

Travex,

You are correct in that the lists are simply a list of the sightings reported to MUFON. What else would they be.

The lists are published to give people a general idea of what is being reported.

They are then broken down by state etc. The UK set could be broken down by county. Same effect.

I don't know if MUFON has the full report for each case; I assume they do.
So one could get in touch with them for more info or look elsewhere in the states mentioned for other sources.

The number of sightings in any country/state depends upon many factors. Even a densely populated state may have adverse weather conditions that prevent people seeing things while living out in a sparsely populated area like a desert may have excellent viewing conditions.

Which are will see the most and therefor generated to greater number of reports ?

I have been hoping to see a decent meteor shower for the last five years but every time the cloud cover precludes it.

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« Reply #20 on: Jun 26th, 2017, 10:41pm »

on Jun 26th, 2017, 3:15pm, Swamprat wrote:
"Since Swamprat has replaced the May 2017 report with older releases, the interesting data disappeared."

Travex, what in the world are you talking about? I haven't "replaced the May 2017 report" with ANYTHING! The May report is still there, along with the others.
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That's truly weird. I couldn't find the May report no matter what and now it's easy to see - it's on the 1st page following a couple of other posts. huh
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« Reply #21 on: Jun 27th, 2017, 01:40am »

on Jun 26th, 2017, 3:33pm, INT21 wrote:
The number of sightings in any country/state depends upon many factors. Even a densely populated state may have adverse weather conditions that prevent people seeing things while living out in a sparsely populated area like a desert may have excellent viewing conditions.

I have been hoping to see a decent meteor shower for the last five years but every time the cloud cover precludes it.

Those conditions that prevent seeing something in the sky that can't be readily associated with the usual don't apply to the genuine UFO effects. If a particular person is supposed to see it, then the sighting takes place even if the witness didn't want it. It has been thought that such an encounter is a matter of chance, but it is not so.

There is a hint that a cloud cover may not play any role in the observation of UFOs:

http://www.businessinsider.com/map-here-are-the-parts-of-the-us-that-get-the-most-sunshine-2014-6

You can select from this map Arizona and Washington with both states differing significantly in the number of cloudy days. The data from February 2017 to May 2017 show that for that time period there were 50 reports coming from Arizona and 41 from Washington. When you include the weather factor together with a difference in population, the expected number of reports from Arizona should be 60, not 50. This is of course an insufficient sample to generalize, but MUFON should have analyzed the reports received to answer the principle questions concerning the UFO traffic. Since 1947, it appears that the movement of UFOs is absolutely purposeless and that's something hard to believe - unless the peculiar firework is a manifestation of God whose mind is said to work "mysterious ways."

I have a feeling that MUFON is just happy when the number of UFO reports grows.

How strong is the correlation between the population of individual states and the number of filed reports?

The online calculator tells me that The value of R is 0.8828. This is a strong positive correlation, which means that high X variable scores go with high Y variable scores (and vice versa).

It looks like the aliens took their flight plan from the way the electoral college works in USA.

There is a trick in the statistic for May. Maybe I mention it some other time. And no, the PhD's at SETI will never find them aliens.

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P.s. What do you think of the JAL 1628 case ?

I don't know, but the message is JAL 1628 and the circumstances of the encounter decode it.
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 27th, 2017, 2:06pm »

Travex,

...Those conditions that prevent seeing something in the sky that can't be readily associated with the usual don't apply to the genuine UFO effects...

So how do you differentiate between a genuine and a non genuine ufo effect ?

...I don't know, but the message is JAL 1628 and the circumstances of the encounter decode it...

You need to elaborate a bit on this, I don't follow your reasoning.

You do know what JAL 1628 refers to ?

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« Reply #23 on: Jun 27th, 2017, 2:08pm »

Swamp,

It surprises me that Mexico (and Argentina), known for many reported 'objects', report such low figures.

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« Reply #24 on: Jun 27th, 2017, 6:28pm »

True, Hal. Keep in mind, though, these statistics are ONLY THOSE REPORTS SUBMITTED TO MUFON. For whatever reason, those areas may choose to report to some other entity?
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UFO Sightings Reports May 2017


Sightings by Country

Country Number of Reports
UNITED KINGDOM 38

I went to MUFON's UFO map, slid over to England, and clicked on the saucer icon at Bath; this is what popped up:


UFO Sighting

Occurred 2017-06-14 22:45
Submitted 2017-06-14 (Reported Same Day)
Location Bath, England
Summary I don't know how to explain what I just saw this evening but I managed to get a picture of it before it vanished. I hope it returns!
Tags lights disc hovering

I clicked on it to see details, and this came up:


UFO Sighting in Bath, England on June 14, 2017


Sighting Basics
Case Number 84387
Date of the Sighting 2017-06-14 22:45
Date Submitted 2017-06-14 18:21 (Reported Same Day)
Time Zone Europe/London
Source MUFON
Summary I don't know how to explain what i just saw this evening but i managed to get a picture of it before it vanished. i hope it returns!
Tags lights disc hovering

Sighting Location
City Bath
Region England
Coutntry United Kingdom
Latitude 51.38700
Longitude -2.35994
The latitude and longitude presented here is an approximation to protect the reporters identity

Sighting Photos, Videos and Media


Photo: I clicked on the photo icon, and it popped up:

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Sighting Specifics

Viewing Distance Unknown
Alititude Unknown
Sighting Duration 00:02:00
Object Features Dome, Window(s)
Object Flight Path Hovering then path
Object Shape Sphere

Weather Details

Sorry, weather details are unavailable for this event.

Sighting Statistics
There have been 1088 other sightings in England
There have been 13 other sightings in Bath
There have been 45 other sightings near Bath
There were no other sightings in or near Bath on 2017-06-14

Sighting Details
I was getting ready for bed and turning all the lights off around the flat when I looked out of my back window to discover this object hovering in the sky above the city. I quickly grabbed my phone and got a pretty decent shot before rushing to my partner and tell them what I witnessed. when we returned to look out the window, the object was gone.

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NOTE! Nothing in these documents includes MUFON's assessment of the veracity of this report! It is just the documentation of the report itself. Any analysis by MUFON technical personnel is yet to be done.

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« Reply #26 on: Jun 28th, 2017, 12:19am »

on Jun 27th, 2017, 2:06pm, INT21 wrote:
So how do you differentiate between a genuine and a non genuine ufo effect ?

In essence there will be a coordination between parameters like WHEN, WHERE, WHAT and so on. Some folks can come up with elaborate UFO hoaxes, but would treat that event as a chance encounter and so their story would fall apart by failing to meet the criteria for a genuine event.

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You do know what JAL 1628 refers to ?

I know only a part of that very complex JAL 1628 statement. The info conveyed by the aliens usually runs contrary to what we think is true, and so each significant UFO sighting is supported by other significant sightings and it all goes back to Kenneth Arnold sighting and the Roswell case, with both cases believed to be events where a chance ran supreme. But they were both well-prepared manifestations.

When you ask MUFON why is so that the sphere is the most frequent object reported, they would likely shrug. If you mention that balloons are of a spherical shape and that the ET's want the earthlings know what truly happened back in 1947 in Roswell, MUFON folks get probably defensive pointing toward some "witnesses." But we are also interested in what the ET's had to say to it, aren't we?

The JAL 1628 sighting belongs to the Arnold class of sightings - it has a very high degree of certainty that it all went down the way the pilots described it. That means it was assumable that the event was genuine. But some thirty years later, no one have the slightest idea WHY it happened - mainly because there are other, rather foolish, priorities.

Maybe I'll do the basics on JAL 1628 in a separate thread.
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 28th, 2017, 11:13am »

Swamp,

You will have noticed what appears to be a thin wire running from the object upwards towards that overhead cable.

Travex,

Look forward to you piece on JAL 1628.

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