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« Reply #15 on: Jul 1st, 2017, 11:57pm »

on Jun 30th, 2017, 5:21pm, INT21 wrote:
ED,

..What if aliens don't use base 10 number system?..

That's why we can't communicate. They only have three fingers and one thumb.

That alien race with one thumb and three fingers have an interesting evolution history: they have evolved from Gallus gallus galacticus, or from the galactic chicken. This race wasn't known to Man until once upon a time a UFO crashed. The government retrieval commando found no traces of the ET pilots apart from one severed hand. The secret photo of the hand became available after an intervention from someone in the US Congress...

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These three-fingers & one thumb aliens actually represent someone here on Earth. Since fingers and a thumb are connected to form a part of one hand, the ID code is either 13 or 31.

Hand A: 1 thumb and 3 fingers ----> 13
Hand B: 3 fingers and 1 thumb ----> 31


All you need to do is to decode 13 or 31 to identify the earthlings who look like humans, but are actually an alien race.

This is quite difficult search. But those folks who wear an alien implant in their heads - folks like Swamprat - can help.
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1498693431

Although the MUFON Inner Circle is announced on MUFONís website, and there seems to be no attempt to keep the elite organization hidden, very few of the MUFON members I queried had any idea that it existed. It currently is made up of thirteen members, which seems to be more coincidence than design, but that number does seem to have mysterious connotations for some. I donít believe it significant, only a little bizarre.

Here we go... Actually both codes 13 and 31 apply. That's because the MUFON Inner Circle is made of 13 members and on the bottom of MUFON website is a California address (3822 CAMPUS DRIVE SUITE 201 NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92660).
http://www.mufon.com/

Since California is the 31st State of the Union, it all comes nicely together. Three fingers & one thumb or the other way around.

It's kind of sad to see that Kevin Randle remains after all those long years a UFO illiterate person.

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Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system.
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 2nd, 2017, 09:55am »

That picture has to be fake. Everyone of them that I met had done a much better job of trimming their nails..... You don't want to be inspected by one with THOSE nails!
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 2nd, 2017, 1:07pm »

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Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system...

It should be pretty obvious from the context of the thread why I asked.

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« Reply #18 on: Jul 2nd, 2017, 2:43pm »

on Jul 2nd, 2017, 1:07pm, INT21 wrote:
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Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system...

It should be pretty obvious from the context of the thread why I asked.

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It's not that obvious to me even though you did suggest that the ET's-to-humans communication may not go well at all, because the aliens have one thumb and three fingers, so both their hands have 4+4 digits, and that naturally points toward a numerical system base 8. And yes, the circumstances of the Bath UFO clearly point toward number 8 as a significant digit. But the identity 4 = 4 (the number of the left hand digits = the number of the right hand digits) are congruent to the geometry of our symbol 8, which is symmetrical along the vertical axis (the left part of 8 = the right part of 8). That's kind of coincidental...

As I mentioned it earlier, if the aliens are not capable of adjusting to our decimal system, then they are way too dumb to communicate with, which may be the case judging from the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting in 1947.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting

It took the aliens 5 long years (!) to figure out the difference between the state of Washington and Washington DC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C._UFO_incident

5 years? Was it really 5 years? Let's see...


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« Reply #19 on: Jul 2nd, 2017, 3:33pm »

Travex,

Reply #12 Ghost of Ed wrote..

...The case number from the MUFON site is 84387 not 84388.

What if aliens don't use base 10 number system? ..


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From Me, to Ed and you...

..ED,

..What if aliens don't use base 10 number system?..

That's why we can't communicate. They only have three fingers and one thumb.

That was intended humorously as aliens are often depicted with three fingers.

Travex,

Does your system work in Octal ?

From You,,,

...Travex,

..Quote:
Does your system work in Octal ?

Why so you ask? Btw, it is not my system; it is the ET's system...

It should be pretty obvious from the context of the thread why I asked.


It was a play on the post by Ed querying use of the decimal system. That's all; And it's a fair question.

I doubt that aliens as understood generally exist at all. And I have absolutely no idea about their physiology.

The bit about the possibility of an alien race using octal is, however, always a possibility.

We use hex when it suites us, and we certainly don't have 16 fingers and thumbs.

You missed my point. Sorry, partly my fault.

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« Reply #20 on: Jul 3rd, 2017, 7:56pm »

on Jul 2nd, 2017, 09:55am, Swamprat wrote:
That picture has to be fake. Everyone of them that I met had done a much better job of trimming their nails..... You don't want to be inspected by one with THOSE nails!

The alien abductions are handled only by males, and ET males keep their nails well-clipped. That's why you noticed the nails of that hand were too long. That crashed UFO pilot whose hand got severed during the accident was a female. If it comes to the topic of "aliens among us," then the first look belongs to the tips of fingers.
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 5th, 2017, 3:14pm »

on Jul 2nd, 2017, 3:33pm, INT21 wrote:
The bit about the possibility of an alien race using octal is, however, always a possibility.

We use hex when it suites us, and we certainly don't have 16 fingers and thumbs.

If you mention number base conversions, you maybe interested in the Bath UFO follow up.

The next morning after the UFO was spotted, a woman was walking her dog in the park when she saw something shiny in the grass. She used to work in a jewelry shop, and so she was keen on picking that up. Yes, indeed. It was what she though it might be: a thin gold bar. But the other side was made of some different metal. She looked around, put that thing into her bag and went home.

The next day she stopped at the jewelry store she used to work and showed that strange bar to her former boss. The gold part was nearly pure gold, but he couldn't tell right away what the other metal was. What the owner of the store found really strange was the way both pieces of metals stuck to each other. They couldn't be soldered together, as the follow-up metallurgic analysis showed. The specialist who did the analysis out of curiosity didn't have the slightest idea what process could make both metals stick together like that.

He identified the other metal as a nickel-iron alloy called Alloy 36.
https://www.neonickel.com/alloys/nickel-alloys/alloy-36/

On this side of the metal bar was a number, which seemed to be just punched in - as opposed to the mysterious way both metals were conjoined. It was an eleven-digit number 24598808916.

So you have something "not of this earth," meaning the expert couldn't tell how both metals could be joined together like that. Then you have a photo of an alleged UFO hovering above the town the night before. Can the thin metal bar be linked to the alleged UFO?

Tentatively it can. Put aside the case where the bar accidentally fell off the alien craft and look at the possibility that the bar was tossed out on purpose. From where? Well, from one of the windows.

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See, there seems to be a reference in that mysterious bar to the UFO. If you look again at the punched-in number 24598808916, you see that the most frequent digit is 8. And the pic shows that there are 8 visible windows!

This could be a coincidence, but it doesn't have to. However, a skeptic would point out that the alternative 88888888 would link itself with the number of windows in much more meaningful way: that alternative number would have 8 digits - all of them 8's.

Well, that's true - really.

Actually the skeptic gave you a clue without even realizing it, and the clue lies in other options to consider. In this case, why is it so that the number 24598808916 was punched into that iron-nickel alloy and not into the gold part?

The reason is that the name of the alloy, which is called Alloy36, tells you what to do with that long number 24598808916. Well, you guessed it right. The name "Alloy36" tells you to convert the number into another number base; that is, base 36. (Numbers in base 36 are made of digits from 0 to 9 and letters from A to Z.) If you do the conversion, then you find out where the mysterious metal bar really came from.

24598808916(base 10) = BATHUFO(base 36)

It came from that Bath UFO.

How about designing a UFO sighting which involves a plane where the pilot is completely out of his wits watching a couple of UFO's circling his Cessna? Boy! Is he busy sharing his experience with a nearby traffic control personnel...

Well, that takes much, much more than designing a case of a strange metal bar falling off a UFO. Besides, the Gospel according to Randle doesn't tell us to do anything beyond believing in UFOs.
http://fsb.zedge.net/scale.php?img=MS8xLzQvNC8xLTk2MzcxOTQtMTE0NDU5MS5qcGc&ctype=1&v=4&q=81&xs=620&ys=0&sig=827729071754fedceed10e5c930bfe12f96333f7
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 5th, 2017, 4:34pm »

Travex,

You do realise that all that number stuff is baloney, don't you ?

All numbers can be reduced to a number between 1 and 9.

I don't know of anyone who uses a Base 36 system.

Base 16 is obvious.

As for your Gold bar reference.

Alloy 36 (trade name Invar 36) is a 36% nickel alloy.

And the number on the bar is probably a serial number.

I suspect the bar is one of the type that can be bought as an investment as well as ornamental. The backing would be to add support to a soft metal (Gold).

if the finder had any decency they would take it to the police as some one is probably looking for it.

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« Reply #23 on: Jul 5th, 2017, 5:10pm »

HAL,

"You do realise that all that number stuff is baloney, don't you ?

All numbers can be reduced to a number between 1 and 9.

I don't know of anyone who uses a Base 36 system.

Base 16 is obvious."


I ALWAYS THOUGHT QUINARY "is obvious"... grin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinary

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« Reply #24 on: Jul 5th, 2017, 8:33pm »

5 fingers on a hand, and ONE of those fingers sends a message about where this thread has gone..... kiss
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« Reply #25 on: Jul 6th, 2017, 04:22am »

on Jul 5th, 2017, 4:34pm, INT21 wrote:
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You do realise that all that number stuff is baloney, don't you ?

All numbers can be reduced to a number between 1 and 9.

Did I ever say that all numbers CANNOT be reduced to a number between 1 and 9?

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I don't know of anyone who uses a Base 36 system.

Did you check on those guys from Zeta Reticuli? They use number system base 36 extensively, and they were kind enough to share their wisdom with us via Betty and Barney Hill. So, now we use it too: Java, PHP, C, Pearl, C++, Visual Basic - all these languages implement the conversion, because it's handy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base36

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Base 16 is obvious.

Really? Under which circumstance?

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As for your Gold bar reference.

Alloy 36 (trade name Invar 36) is a 36% nickel alloy.

Yes. I know.

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And the number on the bar is probably a serial number.

Can you find on the Internet a single instance where a metal bar is mentioned - a bar made of near pure gold on one side and Alloy 36 on the other? You are making a classic debunker's mistake: you mention a property (serial number in this case) of something that hardly exists.

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I suspect the bar is one of the type that can be bought as an investment as well as ornamental. The backing would be to add support to a soft metal (Gold).

Another mistake that debunkers make: You just ignored the part where a metallurgy expert failed to figure out how those two different metals were joined together. Apart from that, investment gold bars are always marked with pertinent info.
https://goldbullion101.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/exactly-what-is-gold-bullion-image-1.jpg

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I think the aliens tossed the bar out of the UFO window on purpose to stress the issue of conversion. If you can convert from

24598808916 (base 10) to BATHUFO (base 36)

then you are only a step away from converting from

Islam (base Muhammad) to UFO (base Randle)
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« Reply #26 on: Jul 6th, 2017, 3:06pm »

...They use number system base 36 extensively, and they were kind enough to share their wisdom with us via Betty and Barney Hill. So, now we use it too: Java, PHP, C, Pearl, C++, Visual Basic - all these languages implement the conversion, because it's handy. ...

Now I know you are just pulling our legs.

... You just ignored the part where a metallurgy expert failed to figure out how those two different metals were joined together. ..

Ever heard of superglue ? The industrial stuff is pretty impressive.

Hate to tell you this as it takes a lot of the fun out of it. I work in a metallurgy laboratory; or did until I recently retired.

Your grasp of the significance of Base 16, or rather the lack of it, tells me that you are making a lot of this up as you are going along.

This thread has outlived it's usefulness.

Enjoy the rest of your life.

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ZETAR,

'five fingers' ?

No thumbs ?

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"'five fingers' ?"

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« Reply #29 on: Jul 6th, 2017, 5:40pm »

on Jul 6th, 2017, 3:06pm, INT21 wrote:
...They use number system base 36 extensively, and they were kind enough to share their wisdom with us via Betty and Barney Hill. So, now we use it too: Java, PHP, C, Pearl, C++, Visual Basic - all these languages implement the conversion, because it's handy. ...

Now I know you are just pulling our legs.

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No, I'm not. You are wrong thinking those languages are spoken languages that different races of aliens use. Those are names of languages we use to program computers. Once again, here is the Wikipedia article that deals with numbers base 36:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base36

And here is a short excerpt from the article - a Visual Basic function that converts stuff into numbers in base 36:

Public Function ToBase36String(i as UInteger) As String
Const rainbow = "0123456789ABCDEFGHIJLKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ"
i = Math.Abs(i)
Dim sb = New StringBuilder()
Do
sb.Insert(0, rainbow(i Mod 36))
i /= 36
Loop While i <> 0
Return sb.ToString()
End Function


There is a constant in the second line named "rainbow" made of 36 characters: digits from 0 to 9 and letters from A to Z.

A conversion into higher order numeric bases saves computing space. For example, if you convert 8-digit number 31343833 (base 10) into a number in base 36, you get number INT21 (base 36) with only 5 digits.

A new development...!!!

The metal bar wound up in the hands of MoD. It turned out that the woman who had found the strange metal bar decided to keep it as an extraterrestrial trophy of some sort. She left it for a moment on a table in her living room and as the sun rays hit the bar, that shiny thing attracted attention of her parrot Birdie. The parrot noticed the number 24598808916 punched into that metal bar and also noticed that the number includes one digit zero. Because zero means nothing, Birdie made an empty space (nothing) in that number:

245988 8916.

Now the parrot sees two numbers: 245988 and 8916. Does that make any sense?

Birdie found out that it does:

245988 =>2+4+5+9+8+8 = 36
8916 => 8+9+1+6 = 24

Because Birdie once belonged to a retired metallurgist, it figured that 24 means 24-carat gold and 36 means Alloy 36. It became clear to Birdie that the encoding - the number 24598808916 - couldn't originate inside the human head and so the parrot squeezed out of his cage, flew out of the open window heading for MoD to report an extraterrestrial object.

When the MoD experts converted the number 24598808916 into a base 36 number that reads BATHUFO (base 36), it was clear to them that Birdie was right. So they gave Birdie 12 (base 10) peanuts and locked the extraterrestrial metal bar inside a huge safety box marked "Miscellaneous ET Junk."
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